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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
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    Again, I have more time on 1 PC game than your entire pc career. Cope harder. You just mad my back is now straightened and I'm enjoying master race.
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    Just looking for the reasoning for you to carry you like that using phrases like "you completely made that up" then doubling down on proof when you had no idea what you are eveing conversing about.
    Which I explained in my previous post. Read it over, the answer is there.

    Again, thought you were responding to DASBUNKER's entire point about ps5 not having games due to cross gen. You were only responding to a small bolded part of his post and I didn't notice that.
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    Which I explained in my previous post. Read it over, the answer is there.
    I am answering your question, lol.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Again, I have more time on 1 PC game than your entire pc career. Cope harder. You just mad my back is now straightened and I'm enjoying master race.
    Lmfao, whatever you gotta say to convince yourself.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    No, your Series X is upscaling to 4K. It's not native lmfao.
    Just noticed this most games seem to be running at like 1080-1440p instead of 4k at 60 fps on the x. I went back and played some games on my 3080 and the difference is mind blowing
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    Originally Posted by mgftp View Post
    I am answering your question, lol.
    K we cool. Yeah I think the ps5 did okay. Hope the backwards compat thing is something to stay though I think they may go full retard for PS6 and not allow ps4 games to run on it but instead put it being the subscription. Imo this is the biggest disadvantage of console, not being able to play your old games unless you still have the old console (which could die at any time)
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Lmfao, whatever you gotta say to convince yourself.
    JLol if I'd waste money on a PC when I could just get a room heater and some RGB lights and call it a day.

    Who knows though, maybe you'll finally have something worth playing with Starfield. Sending thoughts and prayers.
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    The issue is not the cross gen games, there've always been there as you said Coal

    Thing is PS exclusives being cross gen, something that didn't happen last gen, I guess PCcels are used to it but we aren't getting the Sony exclusives close to their potential with the new hardware.

    It's kinda fine cus Horizon and GOW look and play great, but there's always the "what if?"..
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    Originally Posted by DASBUNKER View Post
    Thing is PS exclusives being cross gen, something that didn't happen last gen..
    That's because ps4 didn't really have exclusives brother. In the first two years, mgftp named 2 ps4-only exclusives: Infamous and Order 1886. I'll add another, Killzone Shadow Fall. That's about it. Ps5 already has more PS5-only games after 2 years.

    Also, Ragnarok was the last cross gen exclusive.


    Final Fantasy Reunion will be ps5 only and that's out next month. Then we have Forspoken and a bunch of new games next year. So my point is it seems cross gen is being done with fairly early this gen.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    That's because ps4 didn't really have exclusives brother. In the first two years, mgftp named 2 ps4-only exclusives: Infamous and Order 1886. I'll add another, Killzone Shadow Fall. That's about it. Ps5 already has more PS5-only games after 2 years.

    Also, Ragnarok was the last cross gen exclusive.


    Final Fantasy Reunion will be ps5 only and that's out next month. Then we have Forspoken and a bunch of new games next year. So my point is it seems cross gen is being done with fairly early this gen.
    I guess its also a good thing HFW and GOWR released early in the gen, since that means Guerrilla and SSM can work in the next PS5 only project sooner, wish they'd go with a new IP next, new FPS from Guerrilla would be great (wishful thinking: a Battlefield-like, COD killer)
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    That's because ps4 didn't really have exclusives brother. In the first two years, mgftp named 2 ps4-only exclusives: Infamous and Order 1886. I'll add another, Killzone Shadow Fall. That's about it. Ps5 already has more PS5-only games after 2 years.

    Also, Ragnarok was the last cross gen exclusive.


    Final Fantasy Reunion will be ps5 only and that's out next month. Then we have Forspoken and a bunch of new games next year. So my point is it seems cross gen is being done with fairly early this gen.
    ….. ff7 reunion is a remaster/remake of a psp game, and it’s certainly not ps5 only. Its coming to xone, series x/s, ps4 as well

    But yes, cross gen is slowing down at a rapid rate come next year
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    Originally Posted by ScramFranklin View Post
    ….. ff7 reunion is a remaster/remake of a psp game, and it’s certainly not ps5 only. Its coming to xone, series x/s, ps4 as well

    But yes, cross gen is slowing down at a rapid rate come next year

    I hope so, but I have feeling we'll still get some "big" crossgen games next year still (Like AC games). I only expect to leave cross-gen in 2024 tbh.



    Games like cod, fifa will always be cross-gen for the longest time though as it always has been, but I doubt count them.
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    Semiconductor cadences slowing down are also going to fuk both PCs and consoles over. It simply takes longer now to design a new chip than it did even 5 years ago.

    As it's slated for now, TSMC N4 is just hitting mass production (Iphone Pro is N4), N3 will be in about 2024, and N2 will be in 2026. Each one of those represents a 10% type speedup. So it makes sense that they will only start work on consoles then, once the juice is worth the squeeze.
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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    I hope so, but I have feeling we'll still get some "big" crossgen games next year still (Like AC games). I only expect to leave cross-gen in 2024 tbh.



    Games like cod, fifa will always be cross-gen for the longest time though as it always has been, but I doubt count them.
    Yea we won’t leave cross gen next year but it will be much more “current gen only” than this year.
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    Originally Posted by ScramFranklin View Post
    Yea we won’t leave cross gen next year but it will be much more “current gen only” than this year.
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    Also get a ps5 already!
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    Why do you guys care about "cross gen" or not?

    Ps5 and xsx cant even run these cross gen games at 4k60 without downscaling to 1440p

    What is stopping cross gen going to do?

    Maybe give them a bit more time for optimizations?
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    when do you think official next gen will start? all we getting are ps4 and xbox one games with graphic patches
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    when do you think official next gen will start? all we getting are ps4 and xbox one games with graphic patches
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    You are in next gen
    we still in releasing games to run on 2013 consoles gen
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    Originally Posted by rocketfish View Post
    we still in releasing games to run on 2013 consoles gen
    Same architecture, so it can scale.
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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    Same architecture, so it can scale.
    One way to keep PS4 users engaged would be to make upcoming PS5 games playable on the older machine, just like Microsoft is proposing with its Xbox Series X games being playable on Xbox One. Yet Ryan says that's not something PlayStation is interested in doing.

    "We have always said that we believe in generations. We believe that when you go to all the trouble of creating a next-gen console, that it should include features and benefits that the previous generation does not include. And that, in our view, people should make games that can make the most of those features.

    or we believe in past generations? it doesn't scale if you have any knowledge of the jaguar cores inside the ps4 and xbox one, and i doubt you do. its holding ps5/xbox series x back innovation in current generation back.

    thats actually why the new god of war ragnarok is the same looking game as the ps4 original god of war... simply because its a ps4 game released in late 2022.
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    ….. ff7 reunion is a remaster/remake of a psp game, and it’s certainly not ps5 only. Its coming to xone, series x/s, ps4 as well
    Yeah I'm a final fantasycel bruh I know what the game is.

    By ps5 only I meant on ps5 and not ps4, but guess I was wrong about that and it is indeed a cross gen. I guess their first current gen game will be Forspoken then. Now that one looks incredible.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Once again consoles will remain lightyears behind PC in terms of performance. As of now, PC GPU's and CPU's are already basically 2 generations ahead.
    i'm a casual gamer.

    i'll hop on cod, nhl, nba with the boys.. no need to spend thousands on a PC for that. not to mention, my PC buddies constantly get dev errors and other issues because their hardware needs to be updated.

    i don't jerk off to FPS or pixels. i just play the game. ya'll pc incels need to relax and stop acting as if buying a console is an attack on you or gaming in general. it's getting ridiculous.

    and for the record.. when i was in high school almost 2 decades ago, i was building PC's for gaming so i get the appeal. but i never shat on people if they wanted a console
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Once again consoles will remain lightyears behind PC in terms of performance. As of now, PC GPU's and CPU's are already basically 2 generations ahead.
    High tier gaming is improving, but the sub $200 tier was stagnant for 5.5 years.

    Now that the 6600 can be had for $200 we can start talking about some progress, but PC gaming for the average player hasn't been improving. It is just the 30-40 year old enthusiasts that are seeing any upgrade.
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    Originally Posted by bertishere View Post
    i'm a casual gamer.

    i'll hop on cod, nhl, nba with the boys.. no need to spend thousands on a PC for that. not to mention, my PC buddies constantly get dev errors and other issues because their hardware needs to be updated.

    i don't jerk off to FPS or pixels. i just play the game. ya'll pc incels need to relax and stop acting as if buying a console is an attack on you or gaming in general. it's getting ridiculous.

    and for the record.. when i was in high school almost 2 decades ago, i was building PC's for gaming so i get the appeal. but i never shat on people if they wanted a console
    It's too easy. Consolecels get triggered by making simple comments such as the one you replied too.

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    Originally Posted by bertishere View Post
    i'm a casual gamer.

    i'll hop on cod, nhl, nba with the boys.. no need to spend thousands on a PC for that. not to mention, my PC buddies constantly get dev errors and other issues because their hardware needs to be updated.

    i don't jerk off to FPS or pixels. i just play the game. ya'll pc incels need to relax and stop acting as if buying a console is an attack on you or gaming in general. it's getting ridiculous.

    and for the record.. when i was in high school almost 2 decades ago, i was building PC's for gaming so i get the appeal. but i never shat on people if they wanted a console

    PCcels in shambles. Lol'd @ jerking off to pixels, it's so true. They're min-maxers who just want to tinker with hardware to get the coolest looking pixels possible and their hobby isn't totally playing great games but playing with their hardware as well.

    And that's fine, but I always lol @ the nerds who act like they are the bastion of gaming and try to put down console chads who actually care about playing games.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    High tier gaming is improving, but the sub $200 tier was stagnant for 5.5 years.

    Now that the 6600 can be had for $200 we can start talking about some progress, but PC gaming for the average player hasn't been improving. It is just the 30-40 year old enthusiasts that are seeing any upgrade.
    You need a $1,500 pc to even play these newer games at high settings though. A $200 card isn't enough.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    You need a $1,500 pc to even play these newer games at high settings though. A $200 card isn't enough.
    I am not sure that is fair.

    Even 5 years ago $200 only got you to 1060 6gb/RX 580 level performance. Not low tier to be sure, but also not "high settings"



    I would say balance is finally settling on the AMD side. The 6600 @ $200 is year over year performance of 10%. Not great, but I don't feel terrible when $200 buys me 50% more performance 5 years later.

    Nvidia though... The 1660 super is still the best low end card they have. 3 years later @ original launch MSRP.
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