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    Resistance bands on hack squat/leg press

    Seen people use bands on these on the machines

    I'm assuming it's to provide more tension through the whole rep rather than part of the rep

    Just want people opinions on how beneficial this is and if it's worth doing myself.
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    Banding machines ect changes the strength curve and Makes it easier at the bottom.

    The bottom rom is where your muscles are lengthened the most and Work in the lengthened position is THE most hypertrophic.

    And increasing the difficulty up the strength curve means every rep is harder, and you get less reps per set, meaning less reps at the lengthened position.

    Ergo - adding bands makes the movement harder but less hypertrophic on a set for set basis


    When id use it?
    *As a variation to stave off I overuse if I didn't have different machines to switch to.

    *for fun. Which is a huge factor in and of its self.

    *if i was advanced enough to need to bias the proximal/distal parts of the muscle a few % for stage judging purposes
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    Banded at the top or at the bottom?
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    The limiting factor is the bottom position.

    Bands will change the strength curve making the bottom easier / top harder.

    Depending on if you band from the top or bottom, modify the weight so that it makes sense.

    E.g. if you band from the top, add weight.

    This will make the movement overall harder and better, because now the bottom position isnt the only hard part. Now the entire movement is hard.

    If you band from the top and don't add weight, then obviously it's less hypertrophic.

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    If you are looking to get noticeable gains from banding machines...you are looking at the wrong variable. If it helps you feel the movement and contraction better towards the end of the movement then keep them in if you don't mind setting them up every time. Otherwise slow the eccentric motion down and use a faster/powerful concentric to finish each rep. You will get way more out of playing with speeds of contractions or just using a different machine/exercise all together.
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    band at the top makes it harder at the bottom
    band at the bottom makes it harder at the top
    no band, too vintage and not cool at all

    did I got it right?
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    Originally Posted by jaxqen View Post
    band at the top makes it harder at the bottom
    band at the bottom makes it harder at the top
    no band, too vintage and not cool at all

    did I got it right?
    Reverse banding makes the bottom easier.
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post
    Reverse banding makes the bottom easier.
    I don't understand why.
    I have never used a band for this purpose, to be honest.
    But, seeing Camarija's video with that squat machine, it seems to me that:
    - at the bottom, it doesn't matter because the band doesn't stretch, so it's only the plates on the machine.
    - at the top, the band stretches and it makes the top harder.

    Assuming reverse banding = band at the bottom

    Same, if I were to do a banded dumbbell curl.
    I put a band between my dumbbell and my foot.
    At the bottom, on the stretch, it doesn't matter because the band is not stretched
    At the top, on the contraction, it matter because both the dumbbell and the stretched band = tension

    I guess I am missing something...

    Also, I didn't watch the video with sound, I cannot right now, just seen the end of it, with the bands over the machine.
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    Originally Posted by jaxqen View Post
    I don't understand why.
    I have never used a band for this purpose, to be honest.
    But, seeing Camarija's video with that squat machine, it seems to me that:
    - at the bottom, it doesn't matter because the band doesn't stretch, so it's only the plates on the machine.
    - at the top, the band stretches and it makes the top harder.

    Assuming reverse banding = band at the bottom

    Same, if I were to do a banded dumbbell curl.
    I put a band between my dumbbell and my foot.
    At the bottom, on the stretch, it doesn't matter because the band is not stretched
    At the top, on the contraction, it matter because both the dumbbell and the stretched band = tension

    I guess I am missing something...

    Also, I didn't watch the video with sound, I cannot right now, just seen the end of it, with the bands over the machine.
    Reverse banding = band goes at the top. So if you drop in a squat, the band tension helps you out of the hole. In a bench press, it helps you off the chest.
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