Disney Fires CEO Bob Chapek after Woke War with DeSantis

[TaeBoNinja]

I already explained this.

- Production cost known: $250mil
- Marketing cost (unknown): Likely $250mil+
- Worldwide gross, split with theaters and not all in Disney's pocket: $500mil
- Initial investment (which has paid off already): $4billion

Where do you get huge success out of this? Without the previous money made from the actually successful MCU movies, this would be in serious doubt with it's massive dropoff week 2. It wouldn't need to just make back it's budget and marketing costs but also perform well enough to justify the initial $4B investment.

I work in the entertainment industry, I know how it works, and this isn't it.

Black Panther 2 has already made all of it's money back in just 10 days, and stop talking about a dropoff with a film that was a Top 10 opening weekend ever, lol. It's drop off is no worse than No Way Home's.

Again, in two weeks it's equaled Top Gun 2 which was a mega success. And has the Thanksgiving weekend coming up. And why do you keep bringing up the 4 billion investment? That's long been covered. The movie IS a big success

[TaeBoNinja]

It's literally on the same path as Doctor Strange and Thor. Both of those movies actually underperformed. They didn't flop, but the studios are definitely not happy. You'll see eventually.

Dr Strange almost made a billion. Thor was a disappointment.

Anyone who thinks a billion doesn't make studios happy are living in fantasy land. Now Black Adam is a disappointment. Even The Batman wasn't all of that big of a success when you factor in it's Batman and BP 2 will pass it in two weeks the latest.

[TaeBoNinja]

For the record, I did not say flop or anything close to that.

Moving on,

... you are comparing a sequel to an 80s movie with a 55 year old lead to the MCU with a massive built-in audience and a string of billion dollar movies.
... you are comparing a movie that cost 170 million to make to one that was 80 million more.
... you are comparing a movie that made 90 million it's second week to one that made less than 70.

If you are drawing these very broad comparisons to argue WF is not a flop -- okay, I agree. It's not a flop.

What it is: A disappointment and if we're drawing direct comparisons, it's not the surprise hit TP:M was at all. That movie did not underperform, it overperformed.

BP 2 doesn't have it's star lead from the first film. And still made over $540 mil in 10 days. You haven't pointed out any reason Marvel should be unhappy with it's box office. BP 2 won't have Top Gun 2's legs, but at THIS same point for both films, it's damn near equal in box office.

[bpatel82]

Didn't read the whole thread but you have to be a literal retard to believe any highly decorated movie is made with a $60 million budget these days... No matter where you read it from. Lol.

[JUSA]

I work in the entertainment industry, I know how it works, and this isn't it.

Black Panther 2 has already made all of it's money back in just 10 days, and stop talking about a dropoff with a film that was a Top 10 opening weekend ever, lol. It's drop off is no worse than No Way Home's.

Again, in two weeks it's equaled Top Gun 2 which was a mega success. And has the Thanksgiving weekend coming up. And why do you keep bringing up the 4 billion investment? That's long been covered. The movie IS a big success

What part is wrong, again?

- Marketing costs are often double or more, they do not release the exact numbers but this movie was heavily promoted.
- Theaters split the revenue with Disney. Disney gets the Lion's share in week one and every single week after, they get less and less. You don't think the theaters take some of the ticket sales?
- Top Gun has much less of a drop off, which is relevant. Opening weekend 180m domestic. Top Gun, in less theaters, opened to 160m domestic and had a much smaller drop off. So it's doing better per theater and the evened out after week 2 as word of mouth propped TG:M and slowed down WF.

Anyway - it is a disappointment. Why are we comparing it to Top Gun, compared to Phase 3 Marvel movies and the original Black Panther, it's doing worse. Phase IV has not quite been a disaster but absolutely has been a misstep for Marvel and this movie to close it out did not change it's trajectory.

Don't get me wrong, I fully expect it to make it's money back but when you're used to money hand over fist, just making some is a slow down and a disappointment from the 4 billion dollar investment they made years back. Yes, it's made it's money already - but off the backs of other movies, not this one.

If I invest money into a business and it performs well initially and later stops making much money or even only breaks even, I don't smile because years back it made money - I freak the fuk out and wonder what is going on with my investment. Why isn't it still making big money?

[monty097]

Nah bro, Black Panther was the first African American headlined superhero movie.......

Except for Blade. And with Blade, they didn't push him being black. It was just pushed as an exciting, action movie, and it also reinvigorated interest in comic book movies again.

Yeah because that was back in the 90s before the cancer that is wokeism plagued society and nobody gave a flying fuk what colour the main character of a movie was lol, they just cared about the movie being good.

Original blade was awesome, hope they don't ruin the reboot.

[monty097]

I work in the entertainment industry, I know how it works, and this isn't it.

Black Panther 2 has already made all of it's money back in just 10 days, and stop talking about a dropoff with a film that was a Top 10 opening weekend ever, lol. It's drop off is no worse than No Way Home's.

It didn't have a top 10 opening weekend lol.

I really don't understand why so many people have a need to try and overhype things about this movie to make it seem better than it is, is it cause the cast is all black so you feel like you need to?

I don't get it.

Thor Love & Thunder made $700M+ globally but nobody seems to have a problem calling it mediocre, which it was at best, so is BP2.

[Dave22reborn]

It didn't have a top 10 opening weekend lol.

I really don't understand why so many people have a need to try and overhype things about this movie to make it seem better than it is, is it cause the cast is all black so you feel like you need to?

I don't get it.

Thor Love & Thunder made $700M+ globally but nobody seems to have a problem calling it mediocre, which it was at best, so is BP2.

Hrs trying to convince himself thst it'll be something huge. That it'll reach a billion dollars. Tbe third weekend will be an even bigger drop off, and it'll most likely end up making around 800 million, maybe 850 million when it's all said and done.

If it was being released in China, then it might have reached the billion dollar mark.

Face it, phase 4 has been a woke disaster, and who knows how bad phase 5 will be.

[Dave22reborn]

The Alphabet People are upset because Marvel barely has Queer representation......

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever to be censored despite queer representation failure

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eur...tation-failure

[Seatard]

Hrs trying to convince himself thst it'll be something huge. That it'll reach a billion dollars. Tbe third weekend will be an even bigger drop off, and it'll most likely end up making around 800 million, maybe 850 million when it's all said and done.

If it was being released in China, then it might have reached the billion dollar mark.

Face it, phase 4 has been a woke disaster, and who knows how bad phase 5 will be.

The CEO was chit canned because investors are upset with their streaming service losing so much money.

Why exactly are you arguing about a movie that will make Disney a few hundred million in profit?

[BeachPro11]

Bob Iger is equally woke if not more woke than Chapek. It's not like Disney started going woke just a year ago under Chapek.. It started going woke since more than a decade ago and continued going woke under Igor. Bringing him back changes nothing. It's still doomed.

It has been woke for 70 years going back to the 1950s.

[Dave22reborn]

The CEO was chit canned because investors are upset with their streaming service losing so much money.

Why exactly are you arguing about about a movie that will make Disney a few hundred million in profit?

Streaming service is losing profit, as well as their movies.

Let's say they go for another Black Panther movie, and the proposed budget is 300 million. You think the studios are gonna sign off on that?

Batman Vs Superman technically wasn't a flop either. But look what happened. It literally killed the Snyder Universe. DC is a mess right now, with each movie either being a hit or a BIG flop.

[Unstumpable]

Igor the man who brought us classics like The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.

[Dave22reborn]

The Marvel Cinematic Universe’s Phase 4 Was An Utter Disaster And There’s A Reason Kevin Feige Killed It At San Diego Comic-Con

https://www.google.com/amp/s/boundin...comic-con/amp/

Is Phase 4 The MCU’s Worst? Why Marvel Is More Divisive Now

https://screenrant.com/mcu-marvel-phase-4-divisive-bad/

5 Ways Marvel Studios Has Dropped The Ball On Phase 4 (And 3 Reasons The Multiverse Saga Is In Trouble)

https://comicbookmovie.com/marvel_st...7314#gs.jepg0g

[MyLastSerenade]

Streaming service is losing profit, as well as their movies.

Let's say they go for another Black Panther movie, and the proposed budget is 300 million. You think the studios are gonna sign off on that?

Batman Vs Superman technically wasn't a flop either. But look what happened. It literally killed the Snyder Universe. DC is a mess right now, with each movie either being a hit or a BIG flop.

I just torrented Black Adam and I just want to know why DC has a way to make movies that I feel stupid not knowing who all these other people are? "Here is ATOM SMASHER!!!" ..."who the f...? Did I miss three movies? Is that a black shazam?"

I spent unneeded minutes having to google characters.

[NitrogenWidget]

The Alphabet People are upset because Marvel barely has Queer representation......

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever to be censored despite queer representation failure

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eur...tation-failure

look at what percentage is alphabet in the real world then look at the percentage alphabet in marvel movies.
i don't know what they are crying about.

[Dave22reborn]

Igor the man who brought us classics like The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker.

Talk about re-watchable classics.......

[Dave22reborn]

look at what percentage is alphabet in the real world then look at the percentage alphabet in marvel movies.
i don't know what they are crying about.

Because it's pretty much a sentence, or a simple peck. They want full on, in your face ****ggotry on screen.

I mean, Bros was queer representation. It did well at the box office......right?

[TaeBoNinja]

Hrs trying to convince himself thst it'll be something huge. That it'll reach a billion dollars. Tbe third weekend will be an even bigger drop off, and it'll most likely end up making around 800 million, maybe 850 million when it's all said and done.

If it was being released in China, then it might have reached the billion dollar mark.

Face it, phase 4 has been a woke disaster, and who knows how bad phase 5 will be.

Only 51 movies in history have grossed over a billion dollars, it IS a big thing. lol

BP 2 is right on pace with Dr Strange that was $50 mil away from 1 billion. And not sure where I said Phase 4 was good, but Marvel still mogs everything else

[TaeBoNinja]

Batman Vs Superman technically wasn't a flop either. But look what happened. It literally killed the Snyder Universe. DC is a mess right now, with each movie either being a hit or a BIG flop.

No, Justice League was a flop and killed the DCEU. Made only 670 mill

[NitrogenWidget]

I just torrented Black Adam and I just want to know why DC has a way to make movies that I feel stupid not knowing who all these other people are? "Here is ATOM SMASHER!!!" ..."who the f..."

the movie is loosely based off a story arc from 2005 JSA (justice society of America) comic book.
i never read it though because i had stopped collecting late 90's/early 2000's.

so i don't think many people know these characters.

[Dave22reborn]

No, Justice League was a flop and killed the DCEU. Made only 670 mill

Justice League flopped because of how terrible Batman Vs Superman was.

[Dave22reborn]

Only 51 movies in history have grossed over a billion dollars, it IS a big thing. lol

BP 2 is right on pace with Dr Strange that was $50 mil away from 1 billion. And not sure where I said Phase 4 was good, but Marvel still mogs everything else

The Eternals mogs everything else? How about She Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight, Black Widow, Thor?

Do you really have faith in phase 5 and phase 6?

[TaeBoNinja]

Justice League flopped because of how terrible Batman Vs Superman was.

Wonder Woman and Aquaman both came out after Batman v Superman, and were well received.

The reason Justice League flopped was because Snyder had personal issues during the filming, and Whedon has to piece together the film to save it

The Eternals mogs everything else? How about She Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight, Black Widow, Thor?
It's easy to cheery pick films. The Eternals weren't even a big name. Still did TWICE as much as Suicide Squad. lol

Black Willow did fine during the pandemic and being released on streaming at the same time. Thor's box office will be right around The Batman. Do you really want to compare Marvel shows to DC ones?

Clearly Marvel has had flops like She-Hulk, but they still mog everyone in entertainment by a good margin. No one's close. People have to act like making 1 billion is a disappointment to try and take a swipe at them

Do you really have faith in phase 5 and phase 6?

[Dave22reborn]

Wonder Woman and Aquaman both came out after Batman v Superman, and were well received.

The reason Justice League flopped was because Snyder had personal issues during the filming, and Whedon has to piece together the film to save it

Black Widow was a flop, The Eternals was one of their biggest flops.

Technically Rise of Skywalker wasn't a flop, but have you noticed they stopped making Star Wars movies?

[CalmWind]

hmm, i will watch closely to see if Disney will get my support again. I legit cancelled Disney+ and stopped watching any movies and i canceled my trip to the park (i live in FL)

Disney is supposed to be a FOR PROFIT business, why are they using their business for political activism ...

[CalmWind]

All the woke chit is due to Iger, Chapek was only brought in during 2020 when the lockdowns started and the parks were going to the schitter. If anything, he was against it and only cared about the money, he even got into beef with the employees since initially he didn't comment on the whole legislation thing so the workers organized a walk out.

There also could be other things at play since they have just renewed his contract in June for further 2 years then randomly canned him on a Sunday night.

no, Chapek was to blame.

He could have told the handful of employees who tried to bring politics into their job, he could have told them all to go F themselves, and would have cause to fire them on the spot with no unemployment benefits.

he could have easily stood up for sanity and just ignore these idiots, and the ones brave enough to cause "walkouts", fire them and replace them.


problem solved.



instead he went cuck.

[iloveus]

Apparently, Bob Chapek ruined the theme parks.

I thought this is why he's getting replaced.

[Dave22reborn]

hmm, i will watch closely to see if Disney will get my support again. I legit cancelled Disney+ and stopped watching any movies and i canceled my trip to the park (i live in FL)

Disney is supposed to be a FOR PROFIT business, why are they using their business for political activism ...

Think I read that Universal Stjdios is doing just fine. I wonder why?

[bpatel82]

Interesting development to follow..