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Thread: Pearl Jam 10
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11-24-2022, 08:56 AM #31
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11-24-2022, 09:46 AM #32
Yes. My real contact with Pearl Jam was from the 90's The CD's 10 and Yield were the two I owned. I didn't follow them after that. But, I saw the concert coming to where I live and I'd heard they put on a good show. Just straight up music.
They delivered. Honestly, one of the best concerts I've ever seen even though I didn't know alot of the tunes. Very cool crowd too. I've never been to a show where easily 85% of the crowd is full throated singing along with every word. During some parts of some songs, the crowd knows their cue to sing two well known lines of a song while Eddie turns the microphone over to them. Great show. I hope to see them again.Envy is ignorance. Imitation is suicide.
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11-24-2022, 11:19 AM #33
In terms of bandleaders, I'd compare him to Miles Davis without hesitation. He surrounded himself with great musicians, and he pushed them hard. I do think the best way to appreciate him is live. He wrote his own kind of tablature, which musicians applying to tour with him had to learn how to read. In the audition. His exacting standards are legendary. When you saw him live, you heard exactly what he wanted you to hear.
Halloween 1977 you had people stage with whips and dildos and blow up dolls running around with odd music playing......
Who the fuk is Nirvana?To resist despair
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11-24-2022, 07:48 PM #34
I've never cared for this at any concert. A lot of people are paying for you to do what you do, don't turn the job back on us to stroke your ego.
While I'm ranting I also never cared for bands that give a studio level performance on stage. I heard that Glenn Frey was stickler about this and if you messed up at all you sure were gonna hear about it. The worst was when we drove to see Boston and listened to their new 3rd stage album on the drive. They proceeded to play the entire album, in order, at a studio level of perfection, absolutely could have been lip synched, who knows, just did not sound like live music.
I think the thing I liked about the Grateful Dead so much is you never knew what was coming, sometimes I wonder if they did. Then if the crowd was really into a song they would make it 4 minutes longer just feeding the vibe.Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
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11-25-2022, 09:16 AM #35
LOl, the Garrick stint was 3 shows a day everyday for 6 months. No two shows were the same, plus they had rehearsal. No band in music history has ever done such a thing (because most musicians are substance abusers).
Guitar work is not an indication of making history. Getting people on stage and doing perverted dancing with aids to weird music is.
This is NOT Nirvana.
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11-25-2022, 10:54 AM #36
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11-25-2022, 11:08 AM #37
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11-25-2022, 01:45 PM #38
Plenty of bands have done months long residencies.
Guitar work is not an indication of making history. Getting people on stage and doing perverted dancing with aids to weird music is.
This is NOT Nirvana.
To resist despair
in this world
is what it is
to be free
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11-25-2022, 07:37 PM #39
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11-25-2022, 08:05 PM #40
No band has done what I described, those shows were done on fly and when Frank first joined the Mothers the original band leader had to quit because no one would hire.
You prove my point with this vid. Nirvana is genre type of music this is typical stuff.
Now look at this, Frank even called this silly music but it was complex as well, yet he could get people to have fun to it without it being sell out rock and roll.
Iām talking about the first one here, the black page. Now this nothing to what he did in the 60s.
https://youtu.be/vdDaZ2dXzJo
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11-25-2022, 09:18 PM #41
No itās not typical. Take the song āHeart Shaped Boxā, itās a good example of Cobainās guitar playing, the chorus especially. Rather than just playing the rhythm chords in the chorus like many people would, he followed the vocal melody but also integrated the rhythm chords at the same time. The result is a guitar part that compliments the vocals & other instruments. His timing for when he hits the big chords syncs with the drums perfectly and makes the song the heavy rock song it is, but at the same time he also integrated the vocal melody into his guitar part into the chorus so you get both the heavy power of the rhythm with the catchy sing along part of the melody. Thatās not just good guitar playing, itās great songwriting.
A lot Cobainās material revolves around some kind of movement in minor thirds but theyāre still catchy pop songs. Thatās a good trick.
Minor third is the first interval we gravitate to in singing & hearing as children so maybe thereās something to do with that.
At the end of day, Cobain wrote melodies you can sing and want to sing. Busy and with space where they need to be. That kind of āsimplicityā is rare.
Now look at this, Frank even called this silly music but it was complex as well, yet he could get people to have fun to it without it being sell out rock and roll.
Iām talking about the first one here, the black page. Now this nothing to what he did in the 60s.Last edited by 7Seconds; 11-26-2022 at 06:30 AM.
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is what it is
to be free
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11-25-2022, 09:31 PM #42
Late 80's, me/roomates or neighbors would have a kegger every weekend in college. INXS Kick was a staple album. This was before the Seatle sound.
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11-26-2022, 11:48 AM #43Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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11-26-2022, 12:32 PM #44
Those tunes catered to the guitar players.
He played much stranger music in the 60s and a lot of it is inspired by Edgard Verese, if you ever get to hear that classical style you will see Zappa used a lot of that style, the strange sounds with loud heavy percussion.
Ruth Underwood went to those shows at the Garrick, she was a music student at the time and she said she never heard music arrangements like that, she said you hear classical stuff at these shows that mixed into the physcdelic sound and when the Mothers left NY She felt something was missing and she was disappointed to go back to her contemporary musical life. She said Frank knew most of the audience by name during that 6 month stint.
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11-26-2022, 12:51 PM #45
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11-26-2022, 08:25 PM #46
Seven, Zappa did the pop music with dark lyrics 25 years before Nirvana. Freak Out (the first ever double LP) had a handful of songs based on Zappaās first wife, they were a I donāt love you, love songs.
Zappa also was the first to rap, most of his stuff is rap lyrically.
Nirvana Bleech was good. My first band played Teen Spirit constantly (after I left them), god it was tourture to hear that.
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11-26-2022, 09:14 PM #47
Iām not comparing Cobain and Zappa or saying one is better than the other. Anyway itās not the topic of this thread and we have wasted enough of these peopleās time here on it, so post another thread of your love for Zappa or disdain for Cobain if you like and I will comment there.
Nirvana Bleech was good.To resist despair
in this world
is what it is
to be free
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11-26-2022, 09:58 PM #48
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11-26-2022, 10:17 PM #49
Hard to have a grunge thread without mention of STP
I just noticed this and never read of anyone else noticing it, his shirt is stained with vomit, looks like they just scraped it off for the vid FFS.Last edited by Bando; 11-26-2022 at 10:46 PM.
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11-27-2022, 12:45 AM #50
Agreed, but I also feel that a grunge thread really isn't complete until we have included the magical musical stylings of Zamfir, master of the pan flute. Every time I hear this music, I feel the strong urge to put on flannel, avoid bathing for days, and start random mosh pits.
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11-27-2022, 09:34 AM #51
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11-28-2022, 05:25 PM #52
The Melvins arenāt āgrungeā but they did influence a lot of the bands coming out of that scene. Also, Cobain wanted to join their band and after they said no he formed Nirvana. So thereās that. This might be one of my all time favorites.
And here is their version of āSmell Likes Teen Spiritā with Leif Garret on vocals.
To resist despair
in this world
is what it is
to be free
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11-28-2022, 09:09 PM #53
Those were 70's and Early 80's Bro, between them and Grunge you had Guns & Roses, all the hair bands like Skid Row, Poison etc plus a huge eclectic scene with What's UP ad Alanis.
Queen is pretty eternal, never out of style. I did an event with a bunch of young people who would never even hear them on the radio but they just busted out with Bohemian Rhapsody.Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
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11-29-2022, 08:04 AM #54
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