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    Collagen

    I am not a huge proponent of supplements. Forever I've been taking ZMA but nothing else not even Creatine for years.....BUT.....

    I recently started supplementing with Collagen and it's been life changing.

    Joint Pain: GONE

    Sleep: AMAZING

    Strength: INCREASING.

    Dose: 15 grams per day.

    That is all.

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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    I am not a huge proponent of supplements. Forever I've been taking ZMA but nothing else not even Creatine for years.....BUT.....

    I recently started supplementing with Collagen and it's been life changing.

    Joint Pain: GONE

    Sleep: AMAZING

    Strength: INCREASING.

    Dose: 15 grams per day.

    That is all.

    You're welcome, old farts.
    Interesting, Good stuff Flex, glad you are seeing results.
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    700 lb squat incoming? Sleep really affected by this? Interesting.
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    Originally Posted by steffo99 View Post
    700 lb squat incoming? Sleep really affected by this? Interesting.
    Sleep I was not expecting. I bought it for joint pain but noticed immediately I was sleeping better.

    I've struggled with insomnia since I was a kid. Lately I have been sleeping like a baby; googled it and lo and behold it's a benefit.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    Sleep I was not expecting. I bought it for joint pain but noticed immediately I was sleeping better.

    I've struggled with insomnia since I was a kid. Lately I have been sleeping like a baby; googled it and lo and behold it's a benefit.
    Ok ty, having some trouble with sleep as well so found it interesting.
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    Chicken paws have the highest amount of collagen. Sounded pretty gross at first but it’s actually really good. I’ve been making my own for years in the crockpot, it’s addicting.
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    Originally Posted by JimmyJonny View Post
    Chicken paws have the highest amount of collagen. Sounded pretty gross at first but it’s actually really good. I’ve been making my own for years in the crockpot, it’s addicting.
    Never seen that sold where I live, but there is a giant food marketplace not far from here where can even get bear meat so maybe they have that stuff too. Open to pretty much anything as long as ppl selling me the food can let me know how to cook it. Do you make a soup or some stew out of them?
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    Originally Posted by steffo99 View Post
    Never seen that sold where I live, but there is a giant food marketplace not far from here where can even get bear meat so maybe they have that stuff too. Open to pretty much anything as long as ppl selling me the food can let me know how to cook it. Do you make a soup or some stew out of them?
    If you can’t get chicken paws try a small whole chicken that will fit into a crockpot. I use about a quarter stick of butter in the bottom of the crockpot, let melt. Place whole chicken into the crockpot and put it on high. When it starts to boil, drop it down to low. You don’t want bone broth to boil, just a light simmer. At this point you can add carrot, celery, potato or whatever you like. I do not salt at this point. I usually cook it for four hours and remove the bird. Debone all the meat and strain out the vegetables from the liquid. Put the bones back into the crockpot with the liquid it made ( you could put some dark meat back in for flavor if you like). Fill the crockpot with water and bring to a boil again, drop temp back down to simmer. Let simmer for a good 12 hours more. Some will let it simmer as long as 24 hours but I feel the taste changes in a negative way, your choice though. When the time is up, strain all contents into a large pot or what I like is a glass picture. Let it cool on the countertop and place into the refrigerator overnight. The fat will harden at the top, remove the fat with a spoon.

    Vegetables – the reason I don’t leave the vegetables in the whole time is because the taste seems to change. Another choice is to add the vegetables in for the last four hours instead of in the beginning.

    Mammal bones get roasted in the oven until browned first. Some people soak their bones in vinegar, your choice. All that meat on the bird will be moist and delicious. The skimmed fat is perfect for making gravy roux too.

    Easy way…. Place the bird in the crockpot, fill with water. Reach a boil, back to simmer and walk away, cook for at least 12 hours. Store-bought bone broth tends to be high in sodium. Homemade broth is a game changer. Enjoy.

    I drink mine but you can use it for soups, gravy, anything you like.
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    Originally Posted by JimmyJonny View Post
    If you can’t get chicken paws try a small whole chicken that will fit into a crockpot. I use about a quarter stick of butter in the bottom of the crockpot, let melt. Place whole chicken into the crockpot and put it on high. When it starts to boil, drop it down to low. You don’t want bone broth to boil, just a light simmer. At this point you can add carrot, celery, potato or whatever you like. I do not salt at this point. I usually cook it for four hours and remove the bird. Debone all the meat and strain out the vegetables from the liquid. Put the bones back into the crockpot with the liquid it made ( you could put some dark meat back in for flavor if you like). Fill the crockpot with water and bring to a boil again, drop temp back down to simmer. Let simmer for a good 12 hours more. Some will let it simmer as long as 24 hours but I feel the taste changes in a negative way, your choice though. When the time is up, strain all contents into a large pot or what I like is a glass picture. Let it cool on the countertop and place into the refrigerator overnight. The fat will harden at the top, remove the fat with a spoon.

    Vegetables – the reason I don’t leave the vegetables in the whole time is because the taste seems to change. Another choice is to add the vegetables in for the last four hours instead of in the beginning.

    Mammal bones get roasted in the oven until browned first. Some people soak their bones in vinegar, your choice. All that meat on the bird will be moist and delicious. The skimmed fat is perfect for making gravy roux too.

    Easy way…. Place the bird in the crockpot, fill with water. Reach a boil, back to simmer and walk away, cook for at least 12 hours. Store-bought bone broth tends to be high in sodium. Homemade broth is a game changer. Enjoy.

    I drink mine but you can use it for soups, gravy, anything you like.
    Amazing answer, ty. A lot of hours there...and getting hungry for some reason.
    Think I'd like to keep the fat if possible though.
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    All Walmarts can get chicken paws, you might have to ask them to order them. About $5, cheap
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    I am not a huge proponent of supplements. Forever I've been taking ZMA but nothing else not even Creatine for years.....BUT.....

    I recently started supplementing with Collagen and it's been life changing.

    Joint Pain: GONE

    Sleep: AMAZING

    Strength: INCREASING.

    Dose: 15 grams per day.

    That is all.

    You're welcome, old farts.
    Hey Flex,is this over the counter? OR doctor? AND if over the counter do you have a brand you recommend? Im glad you are seeing some benefits..
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    Hey Flex,is this over the counter? OR doctor? AND if over the counter do you have a brand you recommend? Im glad you are seeing some benefits..
    You can buy it anywhere. I started with tablets (Genacol) but they are kinda pricey and you have to take 3 a day just to get a measly 3g.

    Then I switched to powder I bought a 1 kg bag from a local supplement online store. It dissolves very easily in water. Much cheaper and easier to get a higher dose.
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    You can buy it anywhere. I started with tablets (Genacol) but they are kinda pricey and you have to take 3 a day just to get a measly 3g.

    Then I switched to powder I bought a 1 kg bag from a local supplement online store. It dissolves very easily in water. Much cheaper and easier to get a higher dose.
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    Never seen that sold where I live, but there is a giant food marketplace not far from here where can even get bear meat so maybe they have that stuff too. Open to pretty much anything as long as ppl selling me the food can let me know how to cook it. Do you make a soup or some stew out of them?
    You can get them at Asian markets as they are fairly popular among Chinese populations.
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    Never thought to try collagen, I’ll have to see if it’s available here in town . Sounds like a miracle supplement,as I’ve never found anything that benefits joint pain other than naproxen .
    Chances are it will do F all for me, but it’s still worth a try
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    I thought if you were using whey then you were getting all the aminos that are available in collagen.

    Does it matter where the aminos are sourced from?

    Are you taking Type II Flex?

    The main five types of collagen and what they do are:

    Type I. This type makes up 90% of your body’s collagen. Type I is densely packed and used to provide structure to your skin, bones, tendons and ligaments.
    Type II. This type is found in elastic cartilage, which provides joint support.
    Type III. This type is found in muscles, arteries and organs.
    Type IV. This type is found in the layers of your skin.
    Type V. This type is found in the cornea of your eyes, some layers of skin, hair and tissue of the placenta.
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    Never thought to try collagen, I’ll have to see if it’s available here in town . Sounds like a miracle supplement,as I’ve never found anything that benefits joint pain other than naproxen .
    Chances are it will do F all for me, but it’s still worth a try
    fyi my pharmacist told me repeatedly( she cares) that long term use of naproxen causes cancer and will cause stomach issues over time, now you know.
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    I thought if you were using whey then you were getting all the aminos that are available in collagen.

    Does it matter where the aminos are sourced from?

    Are you taking Type II Flex?
    It's theoretically possible that the a.a. in collagen are a bottleneck if you have joint issues.
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    fyi my pharmacist told me repeatedly( she cares) that long term use of naproxen causes cancer and will cause stomach issues over time, now you know.
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    I thought if you were using whey then you were getting all the aminos that are available in collagen.

    Does it matter where the aminos are sourced from?

    Are you taking Type II Flex?
    Haven't used whey supplements in a few years. Not sure what "type" it is. Package and web site just indicates it is "100% pure collagen".
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    What about the skin...will it make me look 29 again?
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    What about the skin...will it make me look 29 again?
    Perhaps but you'll still be ugly, so does it really matter?
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    Perhaps but you'll still be ugly, so does it really matter?
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    Then I switched to powder I bought a 1 kg bag from a local supplement online store. It dissolves very easily in water. Much cheaper and easier to get a higher dose.
    What it taste like? Is it flavored?
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    What it taste like? Is it flavored?
    It has no flavor whatsoever. Lisa puts it in her coffee.
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    It has no flavor whatsoever. Lisa puts it in her coffee.
    Can you have her chime in and describe what it has done for her, i am curious.
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    Hiya! I had been taking collagen tablets, but the three huge tablets only gave about 2.5 grams of collagen. I read we need about 10g a day to see a difference. (Health Canada recommends a max of 10g per day.)

    So I found this Canadian company and bought marine collagen powder. 1.5 tablespoons gives 8.333333 grams of collagen and its flavourless. It comes from skin and bones of fish that would otherwise be discarded. (I also read that bovine collagen is better, but oh well.)

    I've been taking this for about 5 weeks now.

    I am sleeping better and I am a smidge stronger (which might be because I'm sleeping better).

    My skin is slightly firmer. I don't look 25, but I look hydrated (my lines are a bit plumped out!) and rested (again, maybe because I'm sleeping better?). I was hoping for stronger nails, but I haven't seen that yet. Still a bit early, as it takes about 12 weeks for our nails to grow from the bottom of the bed to the tips of our fingers. A friend of mine has been taking collagen for about 8 weeks and she has noticed a real difference in her skin.

    And yes, my joints do feel better!

    There are some studies out there, but they are all funded by supplement manufacturers, so they might be a bit biased.

    Honestly, just the fact that I'm sleeping well will have me repurchase.
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    If you can’t get chicken paws try a small whole chicken that will fit into a crockpot. I use about a quarter stick of butter in the bottom of the crockpot, let melt. Place whole chicken into the crockpot and put it on high. When it starts to boil, drop it down to low. You don’t want bone broth to boil, just a light simmer. At this point you can add carrot, celery, potato or whatever you like. I do not salt at this point. I usually cook it for four hours and remove the bird. Debone all the meat and strain out the vegetables from the liquid. Put the bones back into the crockpot with the liquid it made ( you could put some dark meat back in for flavor if you like). Fill the crockpot with water and bring to a boil again, drop temp back down to simmer. Let simmer for a good 12 hours more. Some will let it simmer as long as 24 hours but I feel the taste changes in a negative way, your choice though. When the time is up, strain all contents into a large pot or what I like is a glass picture. Let it cool on the countertop and place into the refrigerator overnight. The fat will harden at the top, remove the fat with a spoon.

    Vegetables – the reason I don’t leave the vegetables in the whole time is because the taste seems to change. Another choice is to add the vegetables in for the last four hours instead of in the beginning.

    Mammal bones get roasted in the oven until browned first. Some people soak their bones in vinegar, your choice. All that meat on the bird will be moist and delicious. The skimmed fat is perfect for making gravy roux too.

    Easy way…. Place the bird in the crockpot, fill with water. Reach a boil, back to simmer and walk away, cook for at least 12 hours. Store-bought bone broth tends to be high in sodium. Homemade broth is a game changer. Enjoy.

    I drink mine but you can use it for soups, gravy, anything you like.
    I started making my own bone broth a couple of years ago and it is heavenly! I do mine stovetop. Add a couple tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and it will help draw the good stuff out of the bones. I use plenty of herbs and carrots/celery/onion combo and it is so flavourful - delicious for drinking and for soups and sauces.

    I don't know what took me so long to get onboard!! I now save all my bones in the freezer and make a 6L batch when I've accumulated enough bones.
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    Originally Posted by LisaSkinnoble View Post
    I started making my own bone broth a couple of years ago and it is heavenly! I do mine stovetop. Add a couple tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and it will help draw the good stuff out of the bones. I use plenty of herbs and carrots/celery/onion combo and it is so flavourful - delicious for drinking and for soups and sauces.

    I don't know what took me so long to get onboard!! I now save all my bones in the freezer and make a 6L batch when I've accumulated enough bones.
    Lol, I save all my bones and fat too. The broth makes a delicious lemon chicken sauce, we love it. So many uses….
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