Looking for a vehicle (6k reps)...

[RaibeartBruis]

Somewhat luxurious
Spacious (can throw some dirty stuff in the back)
Peppy
Reasonably fuel efficient
Good highway cruiser
Not fully electric
Not extremely common/boring
Extremely reliable

Something with 2 rows and a large back would be great. Like a nicer Passport. Would also do a wagon or hot hatch.

Also it needs to be NOT in the first model year.

Budget is $70k.

I looked at the MDX but it gets like 20 mpg. I find the RDX extremely ugly.

Looked at the X5 but adding on basic options moved the price too high.

Cayenne was too much.

Macan is feminine.

RX is in the first model year.

Range Rover Velar is an option. Reliable though?

[BullittEV]

I was interested in the velar for 2 seconds until I went into LR and saw it in person. Do not go RR unless Sport/Full size.

Check out a newer Lincoln Navigator.. I was walking around a Jeep/Dodge dealership lot and saw a used one from 2017 and was shocked at how nice the interior was.

[Robmnrd]

I was walking around a Jeep/Dodge dealership lot and saw a used one from 2017 and was shocked at how nice the interior was.

No real input for the OP, but can confirm the new(er) Navigators have fukkin' ballin' interiors.

[darkninja67]

Genesis GV80

[RaibeartBruis]

Ok, I may be getting a `23 Subaru Outback Touring. I need something for all seasons here in the Midwest.

Do I need the turbo?

Will this be quieter or louder or about the same as a 2021 Camry XLE Hybrid?

[akmerle]

Jeep Grand Cherokee 4XE - 30th Anniversary Edition.

The new GC’s check all your boxes, and you will be amazed at how nice their interiors are / how spacious the cargo area is / how good they drive and cruise.

[Zuggie]

Genesis GV80

This

And they do come in a third seat option with Advanced+ ..

[Midgetkiller]

Macan is feminine but the Velar isn't? I've never seen a man drive a Velar before.

Either way 70k is too little for what you want. You'll need at least 85k (without any tax breaks or something considered). And then your answer would be an X5 50e with at least an M-pack.

Or shop American and get something like an XT6 and go balls to the wall with it. Or shop used, but cars like an X5 will probably be almost as expensive near new as actually new.

[backinbusiness]

X5 45e take the 7500 tax rebate and it'll put you pretty close to your budget. Has 3-years of covered maintenance so factor that benefit in.

Goodluck getting a good price on anything for another year until the dealers start to feel some pain again and realize they arent in the driving seat anymore.

The B58 engine is currently heading towards hall of famer. Looking to get one next year once the madness has settled.