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    How do atheists cope with this fact?

    Literally 100% of all of the greatest combat athletes of all time are all religious.

    That is to say, the correlation between a man's ability to fight, willfully dominate another man, make him submit to your physical superiority, directly relates to his religious fervor.

    This phenomenon can be observed exactly the same, no matter the combat art, no matter the race, no matter the country.

    Tyson Fury: zealous Christian
    Muhammad Ali: Muslim
    Khabib Nurmagomedov: zealous Muslim
    Jon Jones: fanatical Christian
    Manny Pacquaio: super Catholic
    Roy Jones Jr: Christian
    Floyd Mayweather: God is number 1.
    Mike Tyson: Muslim convert

    That is just some of the prominent names of combat athletes of this century. There are literally thousands more through the years. Then there's an entire country of Thailand that churns out Buddhist warriors for thousands of years.

    When you realize this fact, how do you cope, atheists? Does the realization that you guys really ARE the personification of those "AKSHUALLY" and "tips fedora" spineless soy memes?

    All that supposed introspection, reflection, and deep thinking, but does that reality ever hit you? That you are an atheist not because you are some sort of thinking man modern day Aristotle -- but because you are a weak genetic reject who's only allowed to live due to modern advances in science, and atheism allows you to cope with this fact?

    I'm hoping to have a real talk with all you atheists intellectual giants.
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    I'm sure an athlete would tell if he were atheist. I'm sure someone in bible country would affect their brand by being truthful about this. lol
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    Originally Posted by rentfreein View Post
    I'm sure an athlete would tell if he were atheist. I'm sure someone in bible country would affect their brand by being truthful about this. lol
    This is absolute cope.

    There isn't a single instance in which a GOAT tier level fighter professes his religion due to country or societal pressure. If anything, they profess their religion in the FACE of adversity.

    Muhammad Ali gladly went against America and at the detriment of his career to DEFEND his Muslim faith.
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    Miscers here say athletes are low IQ so lets see the mental gymnastics
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    How ironic that atheists believe in Darwinian evolution of the survival of the fittest!

    If left to evolution, atheism would be destroyed by far genetically superior religions men, LOL! Atheism is literally dysgenics.

    Not to mention, the embarrassing realization that you only ever get rabid atheism in the comfort and excess of first world countries! First world countries built on the backs of strong, religious, and traditional men!

    You will never find an atheist in warrior cultures.
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    how do religiouscels cope with the fact that all their idols are just male homo sapiens who punch each other?
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    Originally Posted by xbluexhawkx View Post
    Miscers here say athletes are low IQ so lets see the mental gymnastics
    The overwhelming majority of the highest IQ people in the world are religious.

    atheism is pure midwit cope.

    Jacking another post:

    Let’s look at a list of some of the smartest humans currently living (not listed in order), and their beliefs:

    Abdessellam Jelloul: Apparently the highest IQ ever scored by an adult in the “advanced IQ test” with an IQ of 198. Direct quote from Jelloul: “I believe in God, a Supreme Architect of the universe.” Clearly a theist.
    Christopher Michael Langan: A verified IQ of at least 195. in William Dembski’s book “Uncommon Dissent,” he wrote: “…since Biblical accounts of the genesis of our world and species are true but metaphorical, our task is to correctly decipher the metaphor in light of scientific evidence also given to us by God.” Clearly a theist.
    Terence Tao: His IQ was estimated to be between 220 and 230 by the Davidson Institute (there is some controversy over whether this is accurate; potentially estimated too high); religious/spiritual beliefs unknown.
    Christopher Hirata: Has a verified IQ of 225. Based on several quotes, he is likely a Christian.
    Evangelos Katsioulis: Scored 198 as an adult. Did a lecture in 2008 called “BODY AND SOUL,” and made clear that he wasn’t speaking metaphorically with statements such as: “The soul is not the body. It is not the flesh. It is the spirit.” He’s apparently a follower of a strand of Christianity influenced by Teilhard de Chardin.
    Rick Rosner: IQ listed at 192. Rosner denied he was an atheist when asked directly. As an answer to the question: “You know there’s a God?” Rosner replied, “Maybe. Suspect there’s an infinity of gods.” Clearly a theist of some type.
    Mislav Predavec: Scored 192 as an adult. A self-described Christian.
    Garry Kasparov: The chess champion; alleged to have an IQ of 190. Describes himself as “a self-appointed Christian.”
    Kenneth Ferrell: Apparently scored 190 as an adult. Another self-described Christian.
    John H. Sununu: A member of the Mega Society, whose membership is composed of those with IQ's in the 99.9999th percentile. Reportedly has an IQ around 180. He is an Orthodox Christian theist.
    So of those 10, we have 9 theists, several of which are Christian, and one “unknown.” Well, sheesh, the actual evidence turned out to be a complete bust for the “smart people are atheist” theory.

    Okay, fine, but how about 10 of the smartest humans to ever walk the planet? Maybe this “smart people are atheist” theory will find some salvation there (pun intended):

    Emmanuel Swedenborg: Estimated IQ of 210, Renowned most of his life for his contributions to the natural sciences, he was an extremely devout Christian, and actually wrote a very detailed account of his beliefs on Heaven and Hell. (His book is a fascinating read, btw.)
    William Shakespeare: Estimated IQ of 210. Catholicism was banned by his Queen, so he was outwardly a Protestant Christian, but some historians believe he was a “secret” Catholic. Theist either way.
    Nikola Tesla: IQ estimates range from 200–300. I have seen claims that he was an atheist, which is ludicrous. Let’s put that myth to rest with Tesla’s own words, which leave zero room for equivocation (bold emphasis mine to highlight the strength of his wording): “The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power.” And: “Few indeed will admit the reality that ‘God made man in His image’ in which case all earth men are alike. There is in fact but one race, of many colors. Christ is but one person, yet he is of all people, so why do some people think themselves better than some other people?" Anyone who wants to argue that Tesla wasn’t a Christian theist is fantasizing.
    Gottfried Leibniz: Estimated IQ of 205, and the originator of several still-popular logical arguments for the existence of God. A strong theist.
    James Maxwell: Estimated IQ of 205. Maxwell is credited with laying the foundations for quantum theory and was revered by many, including Einstein. When Einstein was asked if he had stood on the shoulders of Newton, he replied: “No, I stand on Maxwell’s shoulders.” Maxwell was a devout Christian, and an Elder in the Church of Scotland.
    Sir Isaac Newton: Estimated IQ near 200. A committed theist, with some unorthodox Christian ideas.
    Leonardo da Vinci: Estimated IQ ranges from 180–300. Here again, I have heard some atheists claim ol’ Leo to their camp, because he did write some criticisms of blind faith. But criticizing blind faith does not make one an atheist. I know it may come as a shock to atheists, but some theists come to the conclusion “God” through the power of reason and evidence (and I count myself among them). While we’re at it, let’s set one thing straight: God is not a “hypothesis,” as some atheists like to say. God is a conclusion one may reach based on evidence and reason. Anyway, da Vinci’s writings plainly reveal that he believed in God, and he talks about, and to, God as if He exists. A few direct quotes from da Vinci’s own writings: "Good Report soars and rises to heaven, for virtuous things find favor with God. Evil Report should be shown inverted, for all her works are contrary to God and tend toward hell." — "O you who look on this our machine, do not be sad that with others you are fated to die, but rejoice that our Creator has endowed us with such an excellent instrument as the intellect." — "Thou, O God, dost sell unto us all good things at the price of labor" — "If the Lord—who is the light of all things—vouchsafe to enlighten me, I will treat of Light; wherefore I will divide the present work into 3 Parts…” — "[W]e may justly call . . . painting . . . the grandchild of nature and related to God." — "We, by our arts may be called the grandsons of God." — "Fame alone raises herself to Heaven, because virtuous things are in favour with God." Little room for doubt here: Leonardo da Vinci was a theist.
    Johann Goethe: Estimated IQ of 213. Likely an atheist.
    Carl Gauss: Estimated IQ of 250–300. From Dunnington, one of Gauss’ biographers: “Gauss' God was not a cold and distant figment of metaphysics, nor a distorted caricature of embittered theology… The unshakeable idea of personal continuance after death, the firm belief in a last regulator of things, in an eternal, just, omniscient, omnipotent God, formed the basis of his religious life, which harmonized completely with his scientific research.” A devout Christian.
    Voltaire: Estimated IQ of 190. Voltaire did not believe in any single religion, but he did not believe that “religion” was necessary in order to believe in God. A self-described deist, which is a form of theism.
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    Originally Posted by II Cybershot II View Post
    how do religiouscels cope with the fact that all their idols are just male homo sapiens who punch each other?
    Oppose to midwit atheists, whose heroes are a bunch of dysgenic manlets?

    I'll take Muhammad Ali, Tyson Fury, and Khabib Nurmagomedov over absolute genetic rejects like Joe Rogan, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris.
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    On the subject, now that I think about it:

    What is it with atheists and manletism? Has anyone else notice this correlation?

    Joe Rogan, Michael Shermer, Sam Harris, Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, Stephen Hawking, etc., the list goes on. All borderline midgets, and definitely dysgenics, purely from a physical attractiveness POV.

    E. Michael Jones once made the observation that atheism stems from a man's bad or lack of relationship with his father. I finally understand what he means by that now.

    Imagine yourself a father, all the joy and anticipation of having a son: someone to take your legacy, to replace you, someone you expect to raise to be better than you in every way.

    Yet, he turns out to be a midget. A manlet. Completely crushing your hopes and dreams of having a Chad son. Of course this would sour the relationship between father and son, and ultimately leads the father to resenting his son for not turning out the way he'd anticipated.

    For the son, this lack of love and adoration from the father would surely sour his outlook on life, and God.

    After all, how can God love him, when his own father (whose the god figure of the house) doesn't even love him?

    Manletism directly correlates with atheism. Holy ****, mindblown!
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    Just for fun, I searched up notable fighters that are atheists.

    Not much came up, except CM PUNK.

    LMAO!!!
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    For me, it doesn't seem very christian-like to whoop someone's ass for sport....
    “retro” is a sensibility that has obvious appeal as a shelter from the relentless onslaught of the new.
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    This may be the case (or may not be), and it may well be that society has a need for religion, God, or similar. (I am sympathetic to religion but honestly i find the likes of Zoroastrianism more enjoyable than Christian beliefs, but thats besides the point)

    The problem is, even if religion made stronger men and enhanced everyone's life immeasurably, it's still in no way proof of a God. Religion could be the absolute best thing for humanity, but that has no bearing on the truth. For those of us who seek the truth; rather than a way to enhance our life, none of these arguments really make a difference, even if true.

    For me; I'm not religious simply because i don't believe in God (i'm by no means a militant atheist either and am totally open to changing my mind, and have explored the likes of pantheism in my years - probably the correct term is agnostic but im not completely indifferent, i edge towards a mechanical universe without a creator, but i'm nowhere near certain in my convictions), and my mind won't let me believe for the 'sake' of a better, or easier life. I'm far from a militant atheist though.

    What's with all the religion vs atheist threads on the misc at the moment anyway? Every single one of them descend into cesspools. For 99.9% of people, no decent argument is going to change lifetime beliefs they have whether atheist or religious; so what is the purpose of these threads other than to make oneselves feel superior over the other by laughing at how 'stupid' atheists and/or religious people are (to be clear; both sides do this). Both atheists and religious zealots on the misc are revealing their own indoctrination and dogmatism in my opinion, and having a debate with dogmatic people is absolutely worthless.

    Oh and i'm 6'4, sorry to break the trend brah.

    Wanted to make this point as i've noticed lots of the arguments are based on how religion enhances one life; and even if this can be proven to be true it doesn't prove the existence of God, which is at the core of the issue.
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    For me, it doesn't seem very christian-like to whoop someone's ass for sport....
    That's what you get for not reading your bible. Jesus chased people out the temple with a whip. Peter cut off a guy's ear with a sword. Let's not forget Sampson who killed a bunch of dudes with a jawbone. David whooped some giant with a sling.

    The Holy Ghost even took out two fools for lying in Acts.
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    Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN View Post
    For me, it doesn't seem very christian-like to whoop someone's ass for sport....
    That's because you subscribe to the modern day cuck version of Christianity. But that's not the point of this thread.

    The point of this thread is to highlight the number 1 purpose of religion throughout the ages: to give men strength, courage, and purpose.

    This is demonstrably true, as evident by the fact that you literally cannot be a good fighter/warrior without coming from a strong religious background/culture. And the opposite end of this are the cringe fedora atheists, who are mocked relentlessly for their pretentious and weak worldview.

    How can a man claim to be strong of will and character if he believes in nothing? That's the point. Atheism is weak and dysgenics, and the ideology attracts the weakest and most pathetic coward betas of society as a coping mechanism for the fact that they are genetic rejects.
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    You listed several different Religions so at least a few of those champions has to be wrong, given that the religions are incompatible.

    Your only real point is that belief in a God strengthens fighters - you have no way to prove that since historically, most people are religious anyway so the typical fighter is gonna be. Doesn't mean a top tier fighter is incapable of being an atheist.

    Let's assume you're right though and that top fighters are naturally religious - doesn't say much for atheism being dysgenic, since it's not as if human genetics can be summed up by fighting capability.

    If you truly believe that's the case, then you're basically claiming that a Bear, Tiger, Gorilla etc is superior to humans. So regardless of your strength from religion, you're still cucked by being part of a weaker species.

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    That's because you subscribe to the modern day cuck version of Christianity. But that's not the point of this thread.

    The point of this thread is to highlight the number 1 purpose of religion throughout the ages: to give men strength, courage, and purpose.

    This is demonstrably true, as evident by the fact that you literally cannot be a good fighter/warrior without coming from a strong religious background/culture. And the opposite end of this are the cringe fedora atheists, who are mocked relentlessly for their pretentious and weak worldview.

    How can a man claim to be strong of will and character if he believes in nothing? That's the point. Atheism is weak and dysgenics, and the ideology attracts the weakest and most pathetic coward betas of society as a coping mechanism for the fact that they are genetic rejects.
    ah, so jesus would do MMA if he lived in 2022?

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    ah, so jesus would do MMA if he lived in 2022?

    makes sense.
    He actually invented it when he wrestled Jacob in Genesis and made him tap.
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    He actually invented it when he wrestled Jacob in Genesis and made him tap.
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    Originally Posted by Supaduck0 View Post
    You listed several different Religions so at least a few of those champions has to be wrong, given that the religions are incompatible.

    Your only real point is that belief in a God strengthens fighters - you have no way to prove that since historically, most people are religious anyway so the typical fighter is gonna be. Doesn't mean a top tier fighter is incapable of being an atheist.

    Let's assume you're right though and that top fighters are naturally religious - doesn't say much for atheism being dysgenic, since it's not as if human genetics can be summed up by fighting capability.

    If you truly believe that's the case, then you're basically claiming that a Bear, Tiger, Gorilla etc is superior to humans. So regardless of your strength from religion, you're still cucked by being part of a weaker species.

    You lose either way.
    Having different religion does not negate the fact being religious is a must for being a top fighter. Had I made the claim that so and so religion produces better fighter, then we can discuss this. But this thread isn't about that. Nice attempt at a strawman, though.

    Yes, thank you for proving my point that atheism IS dysgenics by proving the fact that people, by nature, have been religious throughout all of our history. As I said, atheism is a luxury only afforded to the most privileged 1st world fedora tippers. You will never find an atheist that grew up in harsh and violent surroundings.

    3rd point, of course top fighters being religious says everything about atheism being dysgenics. You cannot be a top fighter without being a genetic beast with high testosterone coursing through your veins. Of course one's ability to fight says everything about his superior genetic make up. Are you dense?

    Your example of bears, tigers, and gorillas is nothing but a red herring and cope. Humans are the very top apex predator on this planet. A tiger being physically bigger and stronger than Mike Tyson doesn't change the fact that Mike Tyson and all GOAT tier fighters are physical specimen in comparison to limp wristed atheist genetic rejects.

    Nice attempt at copium, bro. Fact remains, atheism is dysgenics.
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    Originally Posted by iBangYoGirl View Post
    so you handpicked a few of the greats and that applies to them all?? JUST LOL
    No, I picked a few of the greats because if I were to literally list every religious GOAT fighter, we'd be here all day.

    Here, I'll list bunch more because it's braindead easy because the number of GOAT tier fighters being religious is literally 100% LOL. You literally cannot name a GOAT tier fighter from any combat sport that isn't religious.

    George Foreman: born again Christian
    Fedor Emelienanko: Eastern Orthodox
    Anderson Silva: Christian
    Henry Cejudo: Christian
    Sugar Ray Robinson: Christian
    Joe Louis: Christian
    Arthur Beterbiev: Muslim
    Andre Ward: fanatical Christian
    Jose Aldo: Christian

    Literally every single GOAT muay thai fighters are Buddhist: Samart Payakaroon, Buakaw, Saenchai, Dieslenoi, Superbon, etc., etc.,

    LMAO this guy thinks I cherry picked when it actually takes me more time to remember all these names instead of knowing whether they're religious or not.
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