do you look down on guys that cheat on their girlfriend / wife?

[Fishingrat]

That's a good point.

With that being said, I still think it makes them less trustworthy as a person.

If they're willing to lie to their SO, they're willing to lie to you, regardless of your importance to them.

Still can't be trusted.

I agree, I’m just curious about people’s views on morality.

[Briangumble]

No because for one, it's none of my business. And for two, the girl probably knew what kind of guy he was when she met him and probably thought she could "change" him.

[Nicky161200]

yes absolutely, those dudes are pieces of ****

I don't care if you hate your gf/wife, if you cheat on them you are no better fr. Just end the relationship before anything like that happens.

Lots of families have been destroyed because people couldn't keep their urges under control, sad asf.

[JeffPesos]

Absolute scum of the earth.

Nothing worse than someone who breaks code on an agreement they not only willingly agreed to but also, as is the case with most relationships, had a million opportunities to exit without causing excess harm. Theres no reason for it.

Worse than druggies.

[dmike100]

as in being in a happy relationship, in love etc and still cheating

there's a lot of this being spewed from fresh and fit / tate lately


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I only look down on liberals....and they don't have sex with women.

[TonyTriangles]

I'm not going to judge people on why they cheat on a spouse. They have their reasons, just like why I have my own reasons why I won't cheat on mine.

If they are willing to risk losing half their ****, then that's on them.

[TonyTriangles]

high value men can cheat and the gf/wives stay with them even if they know, so why not?

No. Being HVM means you have access to more women, which leaves you open for more opportunities for temptation. You are a bigger target for infidelity and higher risk of losing half your **** in a divorce

[OliverHeldens]

A guy doesn't cheat if his balls are being properly drained.

[SoutheastBeast1]

I used to but honestly don’t any more. Women are horrible creatures. F*ck them and their feelings.

[JT11RTR]

yes they are scum /thread

This. I couldn't do that to someone I loved enough to marry, and I hold everyone to that same standard.

[badger6]

Yeah, but my point is that loyalty isnt really loyalty when the only reason you dont do it is to avoid the consequences or because you cant afford to be unloyal in the first place. So no point looking down on men just because they decided to take the risk instead of not taking it due to the possible consequences.

That's the silliest nonsense I've heard this week. Consequences are the reason that most non-chitty normal people don't do chitty things in life. Murder, rape, assault, lying, cheating, stealing, etc. Chitty people do chitty things...

[GreenWave1]

If you want to be polyamorous, then define the relationship as such up front. By cheating, then you are betraying trust. This shows poor character. I don't respect people who have poor character.

[blissful88]

I only look down on liberals....and they don't have sex with women.

Fukking ded

Someone rep this guy I'm on R/C

[sg1976]

If you cheat and your woman leaves your value is null.

[Ken-O]

That's the silliest nonsense I've heard this week. Consequences are the reason that most non-chitty normal people don't do chitty things in life. Murder, rape, assault, lying, cheating, stealing, etc. Chitty people do chitty things...

That’s my point.

Not doing something because you are afraid of the consequences doesn’t make you virtuous.

[Oxiras]

If you want to be polyamorous, then define the relationship as such up front. By cheating, then you are betraying trust. This shows poor character. I don't respect people who have poor character.

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Cheating just like all other acts of betrayals are wrong. Even if you wouldn't mind if your partner cheated on you, think about how they would feel if they knew you cheated on them. If

[DDoc]

The thing that makes somebody low class or scummy is lying. It's really that simple. The noble ideal man that we all aspire to be is honest.

I suppose status is also a factor. There's nothing cool about some regular office bro creeping around on his wife while she's at home with the kids. There probably is something cool about a millionaire rockstar screwing everybody and being open about it.

[WiseOldApe]

Guys that cheat are usually just not happy with them selves.

When I was younger I thought that the only reason guys don't fukk all the girls is because they can't, and then I became one of those guys and realised that I all i ever wanted was one special person in my life.

I mean for the most part if you're just fuggin, you bust yo' nut and feel dirty after wards, and if you don't feel bad at all and wanna stick around, you probably like that girl more than the others - after that it's a game of controlling your desires and natural urges until you fall out of love or meet somebody new.

Although I can see how some men would not want to limit themselves to one person, many others just wouldn't do it, since often times having extra marital affairs or straight up even just hook ups with good lookin gals requires for you to have some ill intent towards another, especially another who has feelings of affection towards you.

Do that to enough people and you'll have some restless nights, that's for sure.

I used to but honestly don’t any more. Women are horrible creatures. F*ck them and their feelings.

So do you like men then? Who exactly do you love to spend your time with? Unless you're making the choice to not love?

The thing that makes somebody low class or scummy is lying. It's really that simple. The noble ideal man that we all aspire to be is honest.

I suppose status is also a factor. There's nothing cool about some regular office bro creeping around on his wife while she's at home with the kids. There probably is something cool about a millionaire rockstar screwing everybody and being open about it.

This has nothing to do with class, people of all flavours get urges and desires - some are just better adept at training and subduing those desires.

[Barteh]

Of course I'd look down on them. It's not like I'd stop hanging down with them but it definitely shows you the kinda person they are. Definitely not a very trustworthy person.

[badger6]

That’s my point.

Not doing something because you are afraid of the consequences doesn’t make you virtuous.

Chitty people will do it regardless of consequences. Hence them being chitty people. Non chitty people think of the consequences and realize that the action is wrong. You can't judge whether someone is virtuous or not because there are consequences to the action. How would you even determine whether their decision was do to their character or the consequences? At the end of the day, a person's actions determine whether they are a chitty person. Not the reason for those actions.

It's not even about being virtuous. I don't think a guy/chick should get some kind of applause or credit for not cheating. Since that's the expected non chitty behaviour. However, a guy/chick that does cheat is a piece of chit.

[Silencespeaks]

Of course I'd look down on them. It's not like I'd stop hanging down with them but it definitely shows you the kinda person they are. Definitely not a very trustworthy person.

I would stop hanging out with my friends if they were cheating on their husbands. It’s just wrong and I don’t want to be associated with it. I would end the friendships over it.

[MuscleXtreme]

Yes, I pity them and wish they would get some therapy so they can resolve their underlying insecurity that is manifesting in negative life choices.

It’s clear that they’re a slave to their desires and do not have the strength and will to master them.

[frankdtank20]

If in a happy relationship, it's pretty scummy.

I cheated on a few girlfriends way back in the day, but my heart wasn't in it anymore at the time. It's funny, I felt awful for the longest time about one I wasn't even with 2 months. A different one I felt justified fuking another woman, then going to the girlfriend's parents house the next day for Thanksgiving. I did feel a little guilty while hanging out with her family, but that swept away as soon as I left. I cheated on her with a couple of women, should have been more.

[Barteh]

If in a happy relationship, it's pretty scummy.

I cheated on a few girlfriends way back in the day, but my heart wasn't in it anymore at the time. Though I did feel a little guilty about one. We were together a few months. I had a one nighter with a woman who was only in town for a few days, then went over to the girlfriend's parents house for Thanksgiving the next day. If you knew the whole story you'd say I should have cheated on her every week.

Or just break up with her before fukkin other girls?

[DDoc]

Guys that cheat are usually just not happy with them selves.

When I was younger I thought that the only reason guys don't fukk all the girls is because they can't, and then I became one of those guys and realised that I all i ever wanted was one special person in my life.

I mean for the most part if you're just fuggin, you bust yo' nut and feel dirty after wards, and if you don't feel bad at all and wanna stick around, you probably like that girl more than the others - after that it's a game of controlling your desires and natural urges until you fall out of love or meet somebody new.

Although I can see how some men would not want to limit themselves to one person, many others just wouldn't do it, since often times having extra marital affairs or straight up even just hook ups with good lookin gals requires for you to have some ill intent towards another, especially another who has feelings of affection towards you.

Do that to enough people and you'll have some restless nights, that's for sure.

So do you like men then? Who exactly do you love to spend your time with? Unless you're making the choice to not love?

This has nothing to do with class, people of all flavours get urges and desires - some are just better adept at training and subduing those desires.

Some people lie about it and hide it and some people are honest and open about it. That's the class or character distinction I mentioned that you seemed not to understand. The lying, two-faced behavior is what's low class, not necessarily the screwing around.

[GreenWave1]

Or just break up with her before fukkin other girls?

Exactly. Cheating because a woman treats you poorly is no excuse. A man with self respect and dignity does not stay with a woman who treats him poorly

[ChewYourFood]

I don't cheat because 1. I dont want to risk my family for some hole. & 2. I have a great sex life with my wife and frankly some new awkward sex has no appeal to me.

Keep telling yourselves that HVM's are permitted to cheat.

I've never met a HVM wife that didn't meticulously keep track of EVERY SINGLE INFIDELITY. When she is ready to bail, she will use EVERY instance to make you look like a giant sleezeball to get more of your assets and more favorable custody of your kids. Oh, and she's going to keep your name and embarrass the fuk out of you.

I think guys that cheat needlessly introduce drama into their lives. One of my neighbors always talks about how bad he wants to cheat on his wife and I always tell him that its not going to work out how he wants it to.

I get it though. Some people just check out. I know a guy who's wife has totally let herself go. She's fat and ugly, and her personality is vile and she emasculates him. He travels for business and he had a girlfriend for the 10 years or so. When his youngest graduated college he filed for divorce. That being said, I think his infidelity made his marital problems WORSE. i.e. if he weren't getting his balls drained, he would have been more motivated to talk to his wife and fuk her like a champ when he came home vs. getting in a fight over some stupid chit and waiting till he saw his GF to fuk. Hope that makes sense.

[WiseOldApe]

Some people lie about it and hide it and some people are honest and open about it. That's the class or character distinction I mentioned that you seemed not to understand. The lying, two-faced behavior is what's low class, not necessarily the screwing around.

LOL @ thinking that lying and two faced behaviour is reserved for the 'lower classes', as if high morals are virtuosity come with justified pride, ego, and vanity that the upper classes possess.

[GreenWave1]

LOL @ thinking that lying and two faced behaviour is reserved for the 'lower classes', as if high morals are virtuosity come with justified pride, ego, and vanity that the upper classes possess.

I think you misunderstand. He is not making a statement about socioeconomic classes. He's talking about having class. As in dignity and character. I have known poor people who have a lot of class and rich people who have none

[DDoc]

LOL @ thinking that lying and two faced behaviour is reserved for the 'lower classes', as if high morals are virtuosity come with justified pride, ego, and vanity that the upper classes possess.

I think we are miscommunicating here. In this context I'm using low class as synonymous with low character. A scummy type of person. I'm not talking about economic class within society. I'm not sure if you're in the mood to argue or what.

I'll make this even more simple- lying, two-faced behavior bad. Honest, direct behavior good (or at least much better). You can work out all the finer details and apply this to different contexts if you wish but the principle remains.