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    Settle this- If they Fought today- Both in their prime- Ali or Tyson?

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    Tyson would smoke Ali.
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    Originally Posted by imiscubb View Post
    Ali would put up a fight like he did with foreman but prime focused tyson would destroy anyone eventually

    tysons prime was shortlived
    Ali wouldn't have been able to use the ropes the way he did, if let's say they fought in the 80s or 90s.
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    Iron Mike would knock that fker out with an upper cut from the gods.

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    Originally Posted by hendrixfreak70 View Post
    Tyson would smoke Ali.
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    Tyson would work Ali like a Hebrew slave, just like Jordan would LeBron.
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    Ali was 6'3" with a 78" reach.

    Tyson was 5'10" with a 71" reach.

    From an essay on such a match up.

    Tyson had four legitimate losses (two to Holyfield, one to Lennox Lewis and one to Buster Douglas). All of his tormentors had similar physical characteristics.

    Buster Douglas was 6’3” with an 83” reach that gave Tyson major trouble. Douglas danced and delivered the type of shots that Ali would deliver.
    Lennox Lewis was 6’5” with an 84” reach that dominated Mike Tyson.
    Evander Holyfield was 6’2” with a 78” reach that kept Tyson at bay.

    Tyson had a 71” reach which made him most effective in close quarters. His short reach gave him trouble against tall fighters who moved and applied pressure. Ali was a tall fighter that moved and applied constant pressure.
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    Although it is considered damn near blasphemous in boxing circles, I strongly believe a prime Mike Tyson would defeat a prime Muhammad Ali. Would it be easy? Certainly not, but I still think the power, explosiveness, inside fighting skills, peek a boo elusiveness and impeccable footwork would be enough to overcome Ali’s superior 80” reach, speed, slipperiness and stamina. Tyson would pressure Ali from round one and cut the ring off, neutralizing his rope a dope. Ali would have some success in jabbing Tyson from the distance and tying him up, however I ultimately think Tyson would have no trouble getting within range to work the body and throw those sneaky combinations, getting the job done somewhere around the 8th round.

    That said, the window of opportunity for Tyson would be short. Not only in prime years (‘89 Tyson would already lose to a ‘72 Ali IMO) but also in rounds. If things go past the 10th, I could see Mike’s periodic stamina issues taking hold and Ali winning a close but decisive decision.

    I would say prime for prime, Tyson beats Ali 7 times out of 10.

    Outside of their primes, Ali takes it 9 times out of 10.
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    Depends if you think Tyson actually reached his potential/prime or not. I think he was just entering it before he lost it all.

    Tyson at his best would not beat Ali at his best. Period
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    Tyson always says he couldn’t beat Ali. He’s just saying that to appear humble. Deep down he knows he would wreck him.
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    Tyson would smoke Ali.
    Dunno, Ali did well against Sonny Liston.

    Liston is ranked 2nd in the ESPN.com list of "The Hardest Hitters in Heavyweight History."[82] Johnny Tocco, a trainer who worked with George Foreman and Mike Tyson as well as Liston, said Liston was the hardest hitter of the three.[83] Herb Goldman stated that Liston, when in his prime between 1958 and 1963, was the most feared fighter in boxing history.[84]
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    Love Tyson. But if you really think about it, who did he beat? When was he in a war that he won? He'd win by overwhelming and intimidating his opponents. I dont think that would work with Clay. He beat nobodies, and every time someone was game he lost.

    I say Ali.
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    Who cares, there is only ONE undefeated heavyweight in history, The GOAT Rocky Marciano.


    But to answer your question OP.... Ali would win.
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    Prime Tyson. Ali could bob and weave but there was no getting away from prime Tyson. Dude was like a heat seeking missile in his prime.
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    I think prime Tyson and Marciano both would beat Ali. But I feel Foreman would beat Tyson and Marciano yet lost to Ali. It’s often about how the styles tend to match up with each other, swarmers like Tyson and Marciano did well against outside fighters, but swarmers often have a hard time with brawlers.
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    Ali was 6'3" with a 78" reach.

    Tyson was 5'10" with a 71" reach.

    From an essay on such a match up.
    Ali is nowhere as strong as Lewis and Holyfield. Mike defeated plenty of fighters that were taller and had a longer reach.
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    Tyson in his prime was a literal animal, not even human. It was basically the same as how the romans threw people in with lions. Same exact thing.
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    so much tyson dck sucking in this thread , prime fury would beat prime Tyson
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    Fighters and fighting get better over time. Tyson would win.
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    ****ing casual dumb****s. Tyson is the most overrated boxer of all time
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    Did Tyson ever fight anyone where he didn’t have a reach disadvantage?

    He was always shorter than his opponent from every match I’ve seen, so I don’t really think that Ali being 6’4” is really going to matter much to a prime Tyson.
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    A washed up Buster flattened him , a jumped up light heavy weight old man Holyfield bullied and schooled him and Lennox Lewis was just having a laugh when they fought
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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Ali was 6'3" with a 78" reach.

    Tyson was 5'10" with a 71" reach.

    From an essay on such a match up.
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    Originally Posted by AncientYouth View Post
    A washed up Buster flattened him , a jumped up light heavy weight old man Holyfield bullied and schooled him and Lennox Lewis was just having a laugh when they fought

    Reading comprehension is a joke to you?
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    Originally Posted by ninetynine8 View Post
    ****ing casual dumb****s. Tyson is the most overrated boxer of all time

    Ali: Tyson would kill me.
    Misc retards that never boxed: blah blah blah meh meh meh ^%(&@(&@&^$#
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