Are vaxcels ever gonna admit they were grifted?

[Dave22reborn]

Strong words considering how the Ronaholic crowd refused to STFU about the unvaxxed over these past couple of years.

Column: Mocking anti-vaxxers’ COVID deaths is ghoulish, yes — but may be necessary
https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...f-anti-vaxxers

Howard Stern Says Hospitals Should Ban COVID Anti-Vaxxers: ‘You’re Going to Go Home and Die’
https://variety.com/2022/digital/new...le-1235157846/

So yeah... don't get your victim on now bro. Any of the shiit that comes you Ronaholics way, you have completely deserved.

Thsts what I mean, they WANT everyone to forget how they acted during all this. I will never forget or forgive those who believed I should have lost my job for refusing to get the jab. Who believed the unvaccinated should live like second ass citizens.

[Dave22reborn]

The vaccine reduced someone from getting it by about 80% according to peer reviewed studies and real world data. "Reeee but i know someone who was vaxxed got infected reeeee!!!". I know probability statistics are tough to comprehend for smooth brained idiots.



Personally I was never one of those people, I got vaxxed and quietly moved on. But good job showing that you are good with lowering yourself to their standards. Grade A hypocrite.

You're now falsely claiming, that if you were jabbed, that if would reduce your chances of getting the Rona by 80%???

Despite Fauci and the CDC saying otherwise?

Who are you to convince here?

[Bushmaster]

The vaccine reduced someone from getting it by about 80% according to peer reviewed studies and real world data. "Reeee but i know someone who was vaxxed got infected reeeee!!!". I know probability statistics are tough to comprehend for smooth brained idiots.



Personally I was never one of those people, I got vaxxed and quietly moved on. But good job showing that you are good with lowering yourself to their standards. Grade A hypocrite.

I legit DGAF if you were "one of those people" of not. Enough of you were... You don't want to be lumped in with them, then maybe you should have tried to distance yourself from them two years ago instead of whining about your hurt feelings now.

[Polaris]

The vaccine reduced someone from getting it by about 80% according to peer reviewed studies and real world data. "Reeee but i know someone who was vaxxed got infected reeeee!!!". I know probability statistics are tough to comprehend for smooth brained idiots.



Personally I was never one of those people, I got vaxxed and quietly moved on. But good job showing that you are good with lowering yourself to their standards. Grade A hypocrite.

Then why are you defensive and butthurt? I begrudgingly got it (JnJ) to keep my job and "quietly moved on" as well, but these threads don't bother me at all because I'm not invested in justifying the vax like you clearly all.

[Bushmaster]

Thsts what I mean, they WANT everyone to forget how they acted during all this. I will never forget or forgive those who believed I should have lost my job for refusing to get the jab. Who believed the unvaccinated should live like second ass citizens.

See a pattern though?

These are the same people who celebrated and cheered all through 2020's summer of love peaceful protests - while at the same time complaining about Trump's "divisive rhetoric."

"Disgusting spread necks need to lose their jobs, be denied health care, shunned from society, suffer and DIE!"

And now...

"Hey whoa now.. I wish you anti-vax people would stop picking on us vaxxed!"

[Polaris]

See a pattern though?

These are the same people who celebrated and cheered all through 2020's summer of love peaceful protests - while at the same time complaining about Trump's "divisive rhetoric."

"Disgusting spread necks need to lose their jobs, be denied health care, shunned from society, suffer and DIE!"

And now...

"Hey whoa now.. I wish you anti-vax people would stop picking on us vaxxed!"

lmao, too true.

[Bushmaster]

As for this:



let's see...



Quietly moved on indeed.

He moved on quietly AF!

[yeshli2nuts]

You're now falsely claiming, that if you were jabbed, that if would reduce your chances of getting the Rona by 80%???

Despite Fauci and the CDC saying otherwise?

Who are you to convince here?

Source?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z

Do you have any reputable sources claiming otherwise? I'd love to see them if you do.

[Polaris]

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z

Do you have any reputable sources claiming otherwise? I'd love to see them if you do.

It doesn't appear that you've moved on.

[plsmire]

I'm sorry, but the lies are where? Everything I've seen indicates it is still safe, still effective, and still curbs spread.

How does it curve the spread exactly when natural immunity exists and the vax is only effective for 12 weeks if at all? Lol. Dumbass

[lmaowned]

YOU AIN'T A SCIENTIST THO

L M f A O

[tunejunkie]

1) the efficacy was extremely high against the original strain
2) it stopped the spread of the original strain
3) I got two shots to protect myself against the original strain
4) I had the side effects which were described to me (a day of aches and lethargy)
5) I was never lied to about it being FDA approved... it was approved under emergency use which was widely known
6) My wife is vaxxed and currently breastfeeding with no side effects
7) My wife got pregnant while both myself and her were vaxxed after trying for one month

So really the better question is, will the anti-vaxxers ever let the vaccine stop living rent-free in their heads?

1) no it wasn’t. It was a leaky vaccine. You were lied to and told “breakthrough” cases were a thing. They weren’t. It was just the vaccine not working in stopping the spread. Leaky vaccines don’t stop the spread. They then create mutations, further not stopping the spread.

Cdc, birx, and Fauci now all admitting they lied in the beginning and saying it doesn’t stop the spread.

You were lied to.


2)it did not stop the spread of the original strain. You just told the same lie you were lied to about lol.

3)you got 2 shots, but you need boosters. Boosters weren’t part of the original pitch. You were lied to. You now need 2 shots, 2 boosters, and possibly an approaching 3rd booster to be fully vaccinated.

You were lied to.


4)you described 2 side effects. There are many. They lied to you about the risks. There are now many much more severe side effects from the jab. J&J for example
Had to be pulled because of clotting issues. Issues they didn’t tell patients.

You were lied to.


5)the FDA NEVER approved any vaccine available to date. What you took was just emergency use authorization. Meaning a non tested non approved drug. Not a real approval.

You were lied to.

6)parts of the vaccine are now found in breast milk, something they didn’t know before, so now you’re feeding your child who isn’t yet approved to take the vaccine, the vaccine.

You were lied to.

7)congrats on the baby. But that doesn’t change the fact that the vaccine effects women’s menstrual cycles, something they were lied to about from the beginning. OBGYN’s were saying the vax never makes it to the reproductive system, which we now know is a lie.

They were lied to.



For 2.5 years All in all the “experts” lied at every turn, meanwhile we the “anti vaxxers” as you call it, sat back and watched with our critical thinking skills and realized somethings afoot. We tried telling you , but you and other pro-covid folks called us conspiracy theorists. We were told we should lose our jobs, lose ability to go to stores, eat, receive healthcare due to us not taking the jab.

However as time passed those conspiracies turned to truth. So while the vax does not live rent free in our head, we have a victory lap we must make for the next 2.5 years and a lot of “I told you so’s” are due to many amongst the misc.

[tunejunkie]

Lol not sure what kind of bubble you're living in but the only people that care about covid anymore seems to be you antivaxxers who just can't let go of all this vaccine stuff. The rest of us have moved on and don't give a chit about the boosters (maybe except for a very small population of blue haired he/shes/they/thems).

Lmao we never cared about covid. We traveled, never wore mask, saw family, saw friends, etc all through covid.

The time we talk about it now is a victory lap. An I told you so for the last 2.5 years of fukery that you and the other pro-covid crowd put on.

This is us laughing at all of you.

[Bushmaster]

For 2.5 years All in all the “experts” lied at every turn, meanwhile we the “anti vaxxers” as you call it, sat back and watched with our critical thinking skills and realized somethings afoot We tried telling you , but you and other pro-covid folks called us conspiracy theorists. We were told we should lose our jobs, lose ability to go to stores, eat, receive healthcare due to us not taking the jab.

I never even made it as far as the vaccine push. Remember 2020's summer of love peaceful protests? That's when I started smelling a fuking rat...

There isn’t evidence that Black Lives Matter protests have led to a noticeable increase in COVID-19 cases, despite early concerns from health officials.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-covid19-surge

Little Evidence That Protests Spread Coronavirus in US

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...onavirus-in-us

Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe.../#1db1440a7dac

Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases

https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...covid-19-cases

Thousands expected at March on Washington commemorations

https://apnews.com/e99f9bfcca9cb388054486fa41192194

Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds

https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/p...avirus-spread/

Did Black Lives Matter Protests Actually Reduce Covid-19’s Spread?

https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...vid19s-spread/

BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS ARE HAVING A COUNTERINTUITIVE EFFECT ON COVID-19 SPREAD

https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/co...-protests-link

"Zomg its a global black death pandemic virus of doom!"

Except when it's not.

But just STFU and trust the science...

[Dave22reborn]

Lmao we never cared about covid. We traveled, never wore mask, saw family, saw friends, etc all through covid.

The time we talk about it now is a victory lap. An I told you so for the last 2.5 years of fukery that you and the other pro-covid crowd put on.

This is us laughing at all of you.

That's what I mean, you had guys like Benny, NOW trying to brag how he's too busy enjoying life, and doesn't even think about Covid anymore.

Congratulations, I was doing that in 2020, and he claimed I was breaking the law for finding two gyms that stayed open under the radar, and only put on a mask, if the private establishment asked me to.

Then when things opened back up, and places required us to mask up, he said my gym was breaking the law for allowing us to not mask up while working out.

Like I said, they want us to FORGET how they acted during all of this. But that's the point, we should never forget how they acted during this time period.

[Dave22reborn]

Lmao we never cared about covid. We traveled, never wore mask, saw family, saw friends, etc all through covid.

The time we talk about it now is a victory lap. An I told you so for the last 2.5 years of fukery that you and the other pro-covid crowd put on.

This is us laughing at all of you.

Hell, even the leftist elites that locked down their cities/states would constantly violate their own mandates/restrictions and would travel to places like Arizona, Florida, Texas and Mexico.

And what would happen when they were caught? Nothing, they were given a pass.

Remember when Ohama threw a party of 500 people? Nothing.

[hackerwacker]

"stopped the original strain by 80%" bro I'm fukin dying lmao

[ViolentZ]

im 100% pro vax and i believe it should be mandatory for everybody and i had 4 jabs and want more

and i can honestly say, with hand to my heart, that op is a ****get

[Dave22reborn]

im 100% pro vax and i believe it should be mandatory for everybody and i had 4 jabs and want more

and i can honestly say, with hand to my heart, that op is a ****get

With Rona being done and over with, what is your reason for getting up in the morning?

[Reliance012]

Lmao we never cared about covid. We traveled, never wore mask, saw family, saw friends, etc all through covid.

The time we talk about it now is a victory lap. An I told you so for the last 2.5 years of fukery that you and the other pro-covid crowd put on.

This is us laughing at all of you.

Your “victory lap” exists in an echo chamber of scientifically illiterate miscers, not in reality. You have constructed a fictional reality in your head to cope. As has been pointed out repeatedly, vaccine skeptics have been wrong on nearly every aspect of this pandemic.

There will never come a day when health experts, past, current, or future, conclude that the vaccines were a bad idea. Ever. Your decision to not vaccinate will never be vindicated in the real world. The vaccines will be remembered as a historically great medical achievement that saved millions of lives. History text books will devote a few paragraphs to ridicule the anti C19 vax movements.

[Dave22reborn]

Your “victory lap” exists in an echo chamber of scientifically illiterate miscers, not in reality. You have constructed a fictional reality in your head to cope. As has been pointed out repeatedly, vaccine skeptics have been wrong on nearly every aspect of this pandemic.

There will never come a day when health experts, past, current, or future, conclude that the vaccines were a bad idea. Ever. Your decision to not vaccinate will never be vindicated in the real world. The vaccines will be remembered as a historically great medical achievement that saved millions of lives. History text books will devote a few paragraphs to ridicule the anti C19 vax movements.

How many times was J&J recalled? Will the history books point out how everyone was taking the Pfizer vaccine the wrong way? How people were lied to, or threatened with the loss of their job to get it? How they would be forced to live as a second class citizen unless they got it?

And really? It saved "millions" of lives?

What next? You gonna push for everyone to get the monkeypox vaccine?

[tunejunkie]

Your “victory lap” exists in an echo chamber of scientifically illiterate miscers, not in reality. You have constructed a fictional reality in your head to cope. As has been pointed out repeatedly, vaccine skeptics have been wrong on nearly every aspect of this pandemic.

There will never come a day when health experts, past, current, or future, conclude that the vaccines were a bad idea. Ever. Your decision to not vaccinate will never be vindicated in the real world. The vaccines will be remembered as a historically great medical achievement that saved millions of lives. History text books will devote a few paragraphs to ridicule the anti C19 vax movements.

Actually no. Vaccine skeptics have been right at every turn of this pandemic. Which is why this is a victory lap.

It’s a victory lap to everyone not just the misc. the “professionals” who lied, the government who lied, the public who lied, shamed and demanded no jobs and no healthcare to those who didn’t jabby the jab.

My decision has been vindicated several times over. Covid was a nothingburger for me, which data predicted. Was no need for me, a healthy young individual to get it. I had no exposure to any of the bad side effects of the experimental unapproved vaccine that the gov and cdc officials lied didn’t exist. Vindicated in every way.

Is nobody said this was bad for everyone. Select groups it made sense.

But mine? No. No vax needed for me bud.

Victory lap continues.

[Dave22reborn]

Actually no. Vaccine skeptics have been right at every turn of this pandemic. Which is why this is a victory lap.

It’s a victory lap to everyone not just the misc. the “professionals” who lied, the government who lied, the public who lied, shamed and demanded no jobs and no healthcare to those who didn’t jabby the jab.

My decision has been vindicated several times over. Covid was a nothingburger for me, which data predicted. Was no need for me, a healthy young individual to get it. I had no exposure to any of the bad side effects of the vaccine that the gov and cdc officials lied didn’t exist. Vindicated in every way.

Is nobody said this was bad for everyone. Select groups it made sense.

But mine? No. No vax needed for me bud.

Victory lap continues.

Reliance012 actually said once that every child, teenager, young adult that goes to school should be mandated to get the flu shot. He just loves his jabs......

[JUSA]

I never even made it as far as the vaccine push. Remember 2020's summer of love peaceful protests? That's when I started smelling a fuking rat...

"Zomg its a global black death pandemic virus of doom!"

Except when it's not.

But just STFU and trust the science...

That was about the moment I began to strongly question it as well, when during rioting it not mattering, provided the riot was a leftist one.

[Dave22reborn]

That was about the moment I began to strongly question it as well, when during rioting it not mattering, provided the riot was a leftist one.

For 3 weeks, Covid wasn't even mentioned, even our leftist posters didn't talk about it. Tens of thousands were allowed to go to Saint Floyd's funeral. Then, you mean to tell me, the day after he was buried, it suddenly came back?

[Bodhy]

Your “victory lap” exists in an echo chamber of scientifically illiterate miscers, not in reality. You have constructed a fictional reality in your head to cope. As has been pointed out repeatedly, vaccine skeptics have been wrong on nearly every aspect of this pandemic.

There will never come a day when health experts, past, current, or future, conclude that the vaccines were a bad idea. Ever. Your decision to not vaccinate will never be vindicated in the real world. The vaccines will be remembered as a historically great medical achievement that saved millions of lives. History text books will devote a few paragraphs to ridicule the anti C19 vax movements.

I agree with all of this, especially the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines. There's one thing I didn't agree with the scientific community on, and that was the necessity of lockdowns. You can claim they're effective, and that's true, but they're effective in the same way amputation is effective for an ingrown toenail.


I mean, it works, in a sense, but is your proposed solution actually worth the run-on consequences? I claimed they weren't, and the lockdowns were indeed an instance of poor epidemiology and devoid of a proper evolutionary understanding of the dynamics of the virus i.e it fosters an artificial selection effect where you actually perpetuate the worse strains of the virus.

[Reliance012]

How many doses is the full primary series of BNT162b2 again?

It it 2?

Is it 3?

Is it 4?

How many weeks apart should the 2 initial shots be?

Is it 3?

Is it 8?

How come no one knows?

Did you have a point? One that isn’t hidden behind a wall of leading questions and semantic games? You’re capable of direct discussion.

[Reliance012]

I agree with all of this, especially the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines. There's one thing I didn't agree with the scientific community on, and that was the necessity of lockdowns. You can claim they're effective, and that's true, but they're effective in the same way amputation is effective for an ingrown toenail.


I mean, it works, in a sense, but is your proposed solution actually worth the run-on consequences? I claimed they weren't, and the lockdowns were indeed an instance of poor epidemiology and devoid of a proper evolutionary understanding of the dynamics of the virus i.e it fosters an artificial selection effect where you actually perpetuate the worse strains of the virus.

I’ve never said the scientific community was right on everything in an absolute sense. No one on earth believes that. In hindsight many things should have been done differently. I’d give the CDC a B- on their pandemic response. (Not that the CDC necessarily represents the sci community). What I’ve said is that relative to whatever solution or prediction that the skeptic community was pushing, the scientific community’s solution turned out to be the better choice. I’ve been critical of some lockdowns. But the overly restrictive approach was far better than the suggested approach of no lockdowns by these dummies.

Epidemiology is largely missing evolutionary consideration and it caused a lot of problems during this pandemic. Preaching to the choir. That said, why do you think lockdowns selected for more harmful variants?

[Bushmaster]

Your “victory lap” exists in an echo chamber of scientifically illiterate miscers, not in reality. You have constructed a fictional reality in your head to cope. As has been pointed out repeatedly, vaccine skeptics have been wrong on nearly every aspect of this pandemic.

There will never come a day when health experts, past, current, or future, conclude that the vaccines were a bad idea. Ever. Your decision to not vaccinate will never be vindicated in the real world. The vaccines will be remembered as a historically great medical achievement that saved millions of lives. History text books will devote a few paragraphs to ridicule the anti C19 vax movements.

See post #52 bro...

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1668806563

Where was your "science" when certain political groups in 2020 got a complete Rona hall pass?

That was about the moment I began to strongly question it as well, when during rioting it not mattering, provided the riot was a leftist one.

Then fast forward a couple of months to the motorcycle rally in South Dakota, and...

Results Are In: Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Was A COVID 'Super Spreader' Costing Billions

https://jalopnik.com/results-are-in-...-su-1844982613

[Dave22reborn]

Did you have a point? One that isn’t hidden behind a wall of leading questions and semantic games? You’re capable of direct discussion.

Pfizer Jab, should you take the second dose 3 weeks later, or 8 weeks later?