View Poll Results: Who did the damage?

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  • United States

    67 55.37%
  • Russia

    20 16.53%
  • Ukrainian government

    10 8.26%
  • Rogue Ukrainian sympathizers

    0 0%
  • Captain save a hoe billionaire ( not Elon)

    1 0.83%
  • Environmentalist wako group

    5 4.13%
  • Competing natural gas supplier

    0 0%
  • Energy futures exchange investors

    3 2.48%
  • Elon Musk

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  • Other

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    U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...fense-minister

    But it’s not out of the realm of the possible that the U.S. is indeed behind the attack. President Joe Biden promised on February 7 to prevent Nord Stream 2 from becoming operational if Russia invaded Ukraine. "If Russia invades,” said Biden, “then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...fense-minister

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    Victora Nuland: If Russia invades Ukraine then Nord Stream 2 will not move forward. (while grinning)

    https://twitter.com/StateDept/status...18088016355336

    EU cucks are about to learn how much of an ally America is.
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    Originally Posted by dusky99 View Post
    Victora Nuland: If Russia invades Ukraine then Nord Stream 2 will not move forward. (while grinning)

    https://twitter.com/StateDept/status...18088016355336

    EU cucks are about to learn how much of an ally America is.
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    MIKE TYSON: "When you see me smash somebody's skull, you'll enjoy it."

    "I try to catch him right on the tip of the nose, because I try to push the bone into the brain."

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    lmao we just did a terrorist attack on GERMANY, i'm sure this will go well.

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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post


    bow to your REAL masters, goy.
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    HAHAHAHAH that deranged lunatic chalup voted RUSSIAAAAAAAAAAA. So hilarious watching these Bidenbot cucks lmao. Lemmings.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post


    bow to your REAL masters, goy.


    "WakE UP! OpENN yoUr EYes!"
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    GREAT stuff, they love you, goy.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    GREAT stuff, they love you, goy.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post


    "WakE UP! OpENN yoUr EYes!"



    Lmaoooo
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    A reason for Russia - to divide and conquer Europe and the US by blaming the US for it and 'how much the US is hurting Europe' .... and extending that division deeply by using Putin's online shills and psyops fake-news fake-CT websites heavily in the targeted European countries

    Putin's online propaganda is heavily targeting Europe against the US with things such as the new known/identified Kremlin propaganda -

    ' The US is intentionally harming UK/Germany/EU/etc for the US' benefit !!!!! ' [being adjusted for the target]


    I'm not saying that's guaranteed or even likely and I'm not even voting, but it's most certainly a possibility and anyone saying zero chance Russia did is either lacking intelligence or honesty. There are numerous legitimate possibilities in this situation. However if someone forced me to vote I'd say the US.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post


    "WakE UP! OpENN yoUr EYes!"
    LOL Bro...I suggest you review the history of PNAC.



    ^Supreme commander of allied forces in Europe...

    lol

    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    GREAT stuff, they love you, goy.
    You needed to include PNAC, Fukuyama, McFaul, Cohen, Wolfowitz, etc to really drive it home bro.
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    Please never reference Wesley Clark as a legitimate speaker for anything
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Please never reference Wesley Clark as a legitimate speaker for anything
    PNAC didn't exactly hide their agenda bro. You think he's lying? Making it all up? Ever seen Wolfowitz talk?
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    A reason for Russia - to divide and conquer Europe and the US by blaming the US for it and 'how much the US is hurting Europe' .... and extending that division deeply by using Putin's online shills and psyops fake-news fake-CT websites heavily in the targeted European countries

    Putin's online propaganda is heavily targeting Europe against the US with things such as the new known/identified Kremlin propaganda -

    ' The US is intentionally harming UK/Germany/EU/etc for the US' benefit !!!!! ' [being adjusted for the target]


    I'm not saying that's guaranteed or even likely and I'm not even voting, but it's most certainly a possibility and anyone saying zero chance Russia did is either lacking intelligence or honesty. There are numerous legitimate possibilities in this situation. However if someone forced me to vote I'd say the US.
    Why would Putin destroy something that gave him a monopolistic type position on global energy and power though? How is it unreasonable to believe Putin did not do it? you could argue that he’s evil, sure, but that doesn’t explain much when the guy is a nationalist.

    What was said or done specifically that would make you believe this?
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    Why would Putin destroy something that gave him a monopolistic type position on global energy and power though? How is it unreasonable to believe Putin did not do it? you could argue that he’s evil, sure, but that doesn’t explain much when the guy is a nationalist
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    Why would Putin destroy something that gave him a monopolistic type position on global energy and power though? How is it unreasonable to believe Putin did not do it? you could argue that he’s evil, sure, but that doesn’t explain much when the guy is a nationalist
    Good and evil are subjective terms. Putin has goals for Russia, which he ruthlessly pursues. And our priority should been to set up the situation so that we could mutually achieve our goals in a peaceful manner.
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    Why would Putin destroy something that gave him a monopolistic type position on global energy and power though? How is it unreasonable to believe Putin did not do it? you could argue that he’s evil, sure, but that doesn’t explain much when the guy is a nationalist.

    What was said or done specifically that would make you believe this?
    I didn't state a belief.

    I stated a concrete possibility.
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    Why would Putin destroy something that gave him a monopolistic type position on global energy and power though? How is it unreasonable to believe Putin did not do it? you could argue that he’s evil, sure, but that doesn’t explain much when the guy is a nationalist.

    What was said or done specifically that would make you believe this?
    thats is not the case anymore though. these pipelines were essentially shutoff indefinitely. europe has made no signs of ever going back to dealing with russia for energy (in fact the opposite).
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    Originally Posted by exxtracool View Post
    thats is not the case anymore though. these pipelines were essentially shutoff indefinitely. europe has made no signs of ever going back to dealing with russia for energy (in fact the opposite).


    Except when Russia blocked service temporarily for repairs, they freaked the fuk out. It's pretty clear they actually do expect to eventually resume trade. They really can't survive without it.
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    LOL ... what?!?!

    how can you discount Russia entirely? Why wouldn't they?

    not saying it is them, but I don't see how they can be discounted


    I feel like it's easily Russia. And I'm anti Ukraine pro Trump

    But it's perfect excuse to further starve Europe while looking like the victim.



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    Originally Posted by exxtracool View Post
    thats is not the case anymore though. these pipelines were essentially shutoff indefinitely. europe has made no signs of ever going back to dealing with russia for energy (in fact the opposite).
    Did they suddenly build new pipelines?

    How could they? They've decommissioned the nuclear... why wouldn't they have gone a different route long ago
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    Originally Posted by Darkhare View Post
    I feel like it's easily Russia. And I'm anti Ukraine pro Trump

    But it's perfect excuse to further starve Europe while looking like the victim.



    That or environmental left wing loony group
    You think with the US Navy active in that area that Russia could sneak in undetected and blow three different parts of the pipeline that close to Germany?
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    Pretty obvious the US did it.

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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    I didn't state a belief.

    I stated a concrete possibility.
    Of course it could be Russia... but this is the BB misc.
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    Originally Posted by PutinItInYoGirl View Post
    [img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/oKdjMdWXl9ys8/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bhf76g9t1j2yrda5efefbdhdfc2nvs lzn5axoln97&rid=200w.gif&

    Except when Russia blocked service temporarily for repairs, they freaked the fuk out. It's pretty clear they actually do expect to eventually resume trade. They really can't survive without it.
    "repairs" ya. when you give no timeline on "repairs" that suggests indefinitely to me.

    if we take the words and actions of the EU govt at face value then we can expect them to be finding their energy somewhere else. they have given ZERO signs of backing off of sanctions.


    given all that i dont see why or how its unlikely that russia went for the short term payoff of hurting europe with spiked gas prices for this upcoming winter by damaging pipelines that the europeans have put into policy to not be using either way in the near future.


    but ill hold off my judgements until more evidence comes out. imo the least likely player to have done this though is the US.
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    Israel. Most of the countries on that list are their puppets.
    I swear I was literally counting down to see how long it would take someone to blame the Jews for this.... longer than I expected.
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    Originally Posted by Audioslave View Post
    I swear I was literally counting down to see how long it would take someone to blame the Jews for this.... longer than I expected.
    Little late, people already suspected the USA
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