The Return of Fascism in Italy

[dabbmw2002]

The Left is following the same tactic in Italy as the US, gaslight you by pretending what is happening isnt happening. The stated goal of top politicians in the EU and US is to change the demographics of West through immigration, yet if you call it out, you are a CTer

As far as LGTBQ+3Z$, she is further right than I am, but having seen how groomers work in the US, the drags shows for kids, and trans children, I'm not as critical of those right wing positions. Hard to argue that expanding queer rights have improved society

Meloni in many ways sounds more like other modern national-conservative politicians such as Hungary’s Viktor Orbán and America’s MAGA Republicans than Il Duce. “There’s a leftist ideology, so-called globalist,” she told The Washington Post recently, “that aims to consider as an enemy everything that defined you—everything that has shaped your identity and your civilization.”

Meloni’s enemies list is familiar: “LGBT lobbies” that are out to harm women and the family by destroying “gender identity”; George Soros, an “international speculator,” she has said, who finances global “mass immigration” that threatens a Great Replacement of white, native-born Italians. Meloni shows affinity for authoritarian strongmen: Like Marine Le Pen, until recently the leader of the National Rally party in France, Meloni has expressed support for Russian President Vladimir Putin—although she has muted that enthusiasm since his invasion of Ukraine.

Meloni served as minister of youth in Berlusconi’s last government (2008–11), which proved a laboratory for policies she has made her own. In 2008, one of Berlusconi’s ministers claimed that high immigrant birth rates, together with Italy’s aging population and sluggish demographic growth, would cause Italians to disappear “in two or three generations.” Such fear-mongering finds an audience because of Italy’s historically low birth rates, yet it also foments racist attitudes about who should be having babies.

This nationalist preoccupation echoes Mussolini’s warnings. “Cradles are empty and cemeteries are expanding,” Il Duce declared in 1927. “The entire white race, the Western race, could be submerged by other races of color that multiply with a rhythm unknown to our own.” Meloni’s twist on this theme is “ethnic substitution.” Since 2017, she has tweeted repeatedly that Italian identity is being deliberately erased by globalists such as Soros and European Union officials, who have conspired to unleash “uncontrolled mass immigration.”


What can we expect if the first female-led far-right government comes into being after next week’s election? Meloni seems unlikely to tone down her extremism or change her alignment with illiberal parties in Europe, such as Hungary’s Fidesz. After all, pursuing hard-line anti-immigrant and anti-LGBTQ policies in the name of defending white Christian civilization has worked well for them. Like Orbán, Meloni has made common cause with U.S. Republicans, attending the Conservative Political Action Conference and the National Prayer Breakfast.

By- Ruth Ben-Ghiat


https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...solini/671515/

[dabbmw2002]

Yup I've seen enough. The Atlantic is the epitome of intellectual poison.

https://ruthbenghiat.com/

Ruth Ben-Ghiat is Professor of History and Italian Studies at New York University. She is an MSNBC Opinion Columnist and commentator on CNN, MSNBC, and other media outlets about authoritarianism and threats to democracy around the world.

Please, no more researching this fine author

[dusky99]

Some info about Meloni

Opposed to the reception of non-European migrants and multiculturalism, she has been accused of xenophobia and Islamophobia

Meloni is opposed to the reception of non-European migrants and multiculturalism.[98][99] Meloni believes in a planned mass replacement, also known as Kalergi Plan conspiracy theory, from Africa to Europe that wants to replace and eliminate the Italian population

She has criticized the Government of Italy's approach towards favoring illegal immigrants,[96] while also endorsing the Great Replacement, a white nationalist conspiracy theory

Meloni has been described as being close to Viktor Orbán, the Prime Minister of Hungary and leader of Fidesz, French National Rally, and Spanish Vox political party

Meloni has been criticized due to her statements on vaccines and COVID-19, such as not vaccinating her daughter

Investigative report revealed that her party "has reached the negative record of arrests for mafia group 'Ndrangheta"

In 2006, Meloni defended the laws passed by the Berlusconi III Cabinet that benefited Berlusconi's companies and also delayed ongoing trials involving him.

She has expressed controversial views, such as praising Italian dictator Benito Mussolini in 1996, and Giorgio Almirante in 2020, a Nazi collaborator and co-founder of MSI.

She praised Italian dictator Benito Mussolini as "a good politician, the best in the last 50 years". After the formation of FdI in 2012, Meloni decided to add the "tricolour flame" symbol to its flag, a symbol associated with MSI, which derived its name and ideals from the Italian Social Republic (RSI) a "violent, socialising, and revolutionary republican" variant of fascism established as a Nazi puppet state by Mussolini in 1943.[140] The "tricolour flame" represents Mussolini's remains, where a flame is always burning on his tomb in Predappio

In May 2020, she praised Giorgio Almirante, the co-founder of neo-fascist Italian Social Movement (MSI),[123][124] who was a Nazi collaborator and editor-in-chief of the antisemitic and racist magazine La Difesa della Razza,[82][125] which published the "Manifesto of Race" in 1938

She is opposed to abortion, to euthanasia and to partnerships, marriages, and parenting by same-sex couples, instead supporting nuclear families. She is supportive of changing the Constitution of Italy in order to make LGBT families illegal and support nuclear families

Meloni is also opposed to DDL Zan, an anti-homophobia law, declaring that in Italy "there is no homophobia".[80] She had also said that she would "rather not have a gay child"

In March 2018, Meloni argued with The Walt Disney Company for the decision to represent a gay couple in the musical fantasy movie Frozen II, writing on her social networks: "Enough! We are sick of it!

[Fishman15]

She's just concerned about mUh ThReAtS tO dEmOcRaCy guys...

[leafs43]

We should sympathize with our Euro brothers.

They, much like ourselves, have to deal with the same retarded left that calls anything they don't like fascism.


The left being a bunch of toddlers isn't confined to the US only.

[yabbayabba]

So "right wing" is just a dog whistle for not wanting to be overrun by illegals or letting groomers practice in public? Sign me up.

[fitnessislife]

Yup I've seen enough. The Atlantic is the epitome of intellectual poison.

https://ruthbenghiat.com/

Ruth Ben-Ghiat is Professor of History and Italian Studies at New York University. She is an MSNBC Opinion Columnist and commentator on CNN, MSNBC, and other media outlets about authoritarianism and threats to democracy around the world.

“Authoritarianism” and “threats to democracy”….aka anything the left doesn’t like.

[ghostfacedup]

Yup I've seen enough. The Atlantic is the epitome of intellectual poison.

https://ruthbenghiat.com/

Ruth Ben-Ghiat is Professor of History and Italian Studies at New York University. She is an MSNBC Opinion Columnist and commentator on CNN, MSNBC, and other media outlets about authoritarianism and threats to democracy around the world.

ask yourself, what ethnicity could she possibly be?

[JayJ350]

All these problems started when we decided trans people should be making all the big decisions.

[dabbmw2002]

19yo Melani says Mussolini was a good politician........hnnnnng

[GeorgeFloyd]

Cool! Hopefully it makes its way to America too

[Travis99]

We should sympathize with our Euro brothers.

They, much like ourselves, have to deal with the same retarded left that calls anything they don't like fascism.


The left being a bunch of toddlers isn't confined to the US only.

The left is controlled by the WEF. A bunch of global elitist who easily control retards by tricking them into believing their compassion is morally justified. Brain dead morons running the world into the toilet. It’s to late to end this nonsense peacefully.

[Dave22reborn]

She's literally Mussolini!!!!!

[nkiritsis13]

Weird, because the Left has been forging their own bastard lovechild of Fascist concepts with their cultural Marxism.

Spoiler!

- Nationalism might seem contradictory, but consider that they are nationalist not towards a country as it was, but an idealized one flying a rainbow flag, i.e. pride.

- Disdain for human rights of political opponents goes without saying, but also consider that it was the left pushing for no choice in the vaccines and now no choice in whether the State informs children that they might in fact be the wrong gender.

- Identifying enemies as a unifying cause, I mean just look around you. Even the US president is and has been saying that political opposition are a threat in an attempt to rally support. Or in this case, targeting someone who opposes any single letter of the LBGQP+ "community" as being a cause to unify against them.

- Supremacy of the military is an interesting one, but remember that Biden is constantly going around saying that "assault weapons" are futile against the might of the US military, how one would need an F-16, and alluding to how pointless that pesky 2nd amendment is in respect to its original purpose.

- Rampant sexism against straight males.

- Controlled mass media is literally in the OP.

- Corporate power protected goes hand in hand with the above, as well as extending protection to all kinds of mega corporations from pharmaceutical to entertainment to the entire tech sector.

- Suppression of labor power is something I think we'll start to see more and more as those aforementioned mega corporations continue to quash labor rights. Everyone knows about Amazon's notoriety, but even Starbucks was acting against unionization efforts. Any pro-labor, pro-"common man" rhetoric is a ploy to keep supporters on the leash.

- Disdain for intellectuals and the arts through the practice of shutting down any discussions or questions in the name of preemptive "misinformation" and maintaining control. Traditional, proper language is marked as "racist" and unacceptable, 2+2 is not always 4, and basic human biology is being sold as a giant fill-in-the-blank. Likewise, notice how "art" has been increasingly corrupted into a tightly controlled, formula-driven means of propaganda and distraction.

- Obsession with crime and punishment for the right people, while taking the concept of fascism for a nuclear waste soaked spin by also decrying punishment for other criminals who happen to not be political opponents.

- Cronyism? Corruption? Ho-lee schiit does the Neu Left love that stuff. The US Uniparty is one giant orgy of cronyism and corruption.

- Fraudulent elections...

Like damn near everything else the Left does, they scream the loudest accusations of what they are most guilty of themselves.

[squanto]

Not to burst anyone's bubble but Italian government's last about a year historically

[eternalnoob]

Even if it was legit fascism it couldn't possibly be worse than what got them to this point in the first place. The last twenty years have been an utter disaster for Italy.

[dabbmw2002]

Even if it was legit fascism it couldn't possibly be worse than what got them to this point in the first place. The last twenty years have been an utter disaster for Italy.

thats the problem, leftism is so bad that it turns people radical. Same thing happened in 1920s in both Germany and Italy who were under assault by communists.

[JayJ350]

thats the problem, leftism is so bad that it turns people radical. Same thing happened in 1920s in both Germany and Italy who were under assault by communists.

Very true. One day, everyone decided to vote for hitler, but there was a lot leading up to that.

[dabbmw2002]

Very true. One day, everyone decided to vote for hitler, but there was a lot leading up to that.

the media almost completely ignores, historians too, that Communists in Germany and Italy were violent and trying start revolutions to follow the Russian Revolution of 1917. They also worked to undermine Germany in the war effort which made Hitler, and WWI vet, angry and resentful. Add in the fact that the leading Marxists in Germany were Jews....well, we know how that ended.

But you read mainstream history books and we never a full accounting of what was going on.

[EireGunner]

Good!!

[NuggzTheNinja]

The pendulum's return will be medieval.

[ghostfacedup]

thats the problem, leftism is so bad that it turns people radical. Same thing happened in 1920s in both Germany and Italy who were under assault by communists.

This is what the left never understands. When you keep pushing the pendulum in one direction and don't prioritize economic issues, people get PISSED and they shift fast and hard to the opposite end.

[Noliberals4]

Very true. One day, everyone decided to vote for hitler, but there was a lot leading up to that.

Not true. Hitler never won an election til he became dictator. He actually lost something like 3 elections in a row.

One of the biggest historical myths is that Hitler was voted into power.

[AlwaysFocus]

Not true. Hitler never won an election til he became dictator. He actually lost something like 3 elections in a row.

One of the biggest historical myths is that Hitler was voted into power.

how can anyone trust you? your reputation status is red, typically that is the sign of a gas lighting loser

[GeorgeFloyd]

Not true. Hitler never won an election til he became dictator. He actually lost something like 3 elections in a row.

One of the biggest historical myths is that Hitler was voted into power.

ok well Hitler is pretty clearly better than the socialists, idiot

[Bodhy]

Wait, so OP is back on the Great Replacement theory?

[freeheeler]

Wait, so OP is back on the Great Replacement theory?

Great argument. Are you denying that Europe has been overrun by 3rd world peasants and failures and is now worse off for it?

[dabbmw2002]

Wait, so OP is back on the Great Replacement theory?

[Bodhy]

Great argument. Are you denying that Europe has been overrun by 3rd world peasants and failures and is now worse off for it?

I'm denying the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, if that's what you're asking.

[dabbmw2002]

Great argument. Are you denying that Europe has been overrun by 3rd world peasants and failures and is now worse off for it?

The Left purposely conflates rejecting the stated immigration plan of the EU which brings millions of migrants from the 3rd world, with a theory that white people are being intentionally replaced.

You say you are against rampant immigration- they accuse of supporting white replacement
you say you dont want sexuality in schools- they say you are attacking gays
you say you dont support sending weapons to Ukraine- they accuse you of being a Russian asset

Don't even engage