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    Nvidia Announces RTX 4090 $1599 and RTX 4080 $1199


    (only the first 19 minutes are about the GPU's, the rest of the video is AI chit for corporations)



    RTX 4090



    24gb - $1599

    RTX 4080 16gb and 12gb models




    16gb version $1,199

    12gb version with about 2,000 less cuda cores, and slower memory bus $899





    They increased pricing big time over last generation.. Nvidia managed to create a new "top of the line model" with last gen's 3090 while pricing the 3080/4080 with top tier pricing..

    Jensen in his announcement even said these are "Enthusiast Cards with the 3000 series being for consumers"

    Likely they have way too many RTX 3000 series still and pricing the RTX 4000 series out so people just settle buying RTX 3000 series then have "Good discounts for the 4000 series next year" They drove away EVGA and likely want to be the only gpu maker of their cards.


    DLSS 3.0 is locked to 4000 series as well.





    In Conclusion: AMD Save us.
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    Also this can basically give us a good estimate of what the RTX 4070 would be priced at.. $699-799 for what used to be the mid-high tier.
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    I have a 3080ti and unless I get a 4k 144hz screen there's not much room left to grow here. Already pushing 1440p 240hz pretty well in anything I play.

    Eventually when 3rd party cards are out I may consider getting myself an upgrade and putting my 3080ti in my gfs pc to replace the 1080ti in there now
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    with a 4090, i would be in the market for a 21:9 ultra wide 5k monitor
    with dlss 3.0 should be no problem to run

    would wait for next years monitor releases
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    EVGA died for this? Wtf.

    Easily a skippable generation.
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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    EVGA died for this? Wtf.

    Easily a skippable generation.
    tbf they have backlog of 3000 series gpus which are currently way down in price. they dont want them to compete right now so they are selling the 4000 as a premium until stock dries out for 3000 series
    I expect price drops on the 4080 considering where the 4090 is pricing wise. It's significantly more powerful for only ~30% more money. It's actually never been like this before as with halo cards the $$ vs performance gain is usually dismal
    probably after the holidays when 3000 gpus clear, sometime in Jan or Feb i expect big price cuts
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    also the rtx 4080 16gb and rtx 4080 12gb have such a performance difference that Jensen basically rebranded the rtx 4070 into the rtx 4080 12gb... they aren't even the cut from the same die.. thats fukin crazy

    i think we are getting scammed this gen (srs)

    This is AMD's chance to match last gen's pricing and bring on EVGA to piss off nvidia.
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    dlss 3.0 is a gamechanger though.

    basically has the ability to supercharge your cpu bound games. for example you could have an AMD gpu from 10years in the future and you would be stuck at probably 70-75fps in MS flight simulator because of cpu limitations.

    With dlss 3 you can get 100fps+ which is crazy

    also the 4090 pricing is reasonable. the 3090 launched for what, 1500? with how insane inflation has been i would expect the 4090 to be priced higher. especially with the huge gap in performance which is more than the typical generation jump of 30-50%
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    Lol @ PC gamercels spending $1,500+ on a graphics card just to get the most out of the latest bullchit.

    These are the same people who try to trivialize why someone would want to spend $500 on a game console.
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    Are there any games out there that push visuals so hard that we could get any real significance out of these cards?

    Cyberpunk and flight sim already look crazy good on the 3080/90.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Are there any games out there that push visuals so hard that we could get any real significance out of these cards?

    Cyberpunk and flight sim already look crazy good on the 3080/90.
    right now the only benefits owning this would be if you are a crazy flight simulator guy.. they showed you can get 4k with RT at over 100fps.. but right now no game pushes the boundaries like that game does..

    so if you must have RT + 120+fps at 4k at the same time, these GPU's are for you.. if you are RT off kind of gamer, the only reason if you truly just want to push MAX fps on some of these latest 4k240hz monitors.
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    Originally Posted by rocketfish View Post
    right now the only benefits owning this would be if you are a crazy flight simulator guy.. they showed you can get 4k with RT at over 100fps.. but right now no game pushes the boundaries like that game does..

    so if you must have RT + 120+fps at 4k at the same time, these GPU's are for you.. if you are RT off kind of gamer, the only reason if you truly just want to push MAX fps on some of these latest 4k240hz monitors.
    Thing is with flight sim, Microsoft has the game so well optimized for the Series X that you would have to be one of those people who has a serious flight sim setup to desire this, and by then you're the type who spends a small fortune on flight sim hardware anyways.
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    LMAO what's the phucking point? LMAO if you have anything over a 2080ti and are going to buy this bullchit.
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    Are graphics that important to people to justify that price? I don’t know, personally I’ve always preferred great gameplay and couldn’t care less what the graphics looked like.
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    As someone with a 3090 since the month it was launched, pleasantly surprised 4090 isn't THAT much more. Only went up $100.

    That said, as someone with a 3090 and 3 1440p 144hz monitors, I don't think I'm going to need an upgrade until some great display tech comes out.
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    Are graphics that important to people to justify that price? I don’t know, personally I’ve always preferred great gameplay and couldn’t care less what the graphics looked like.
    I think this is simply showing off how retardedly excessive PC gaming has become. People spending small fortunes on ridiculous tech chit that is hardly worthwhile.
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    perfect time for them to announce these high power using cards, especially for euro customers. they'll be paying out of their ass, but at least they won't freeze in the winter.


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    Lol @ PC gamercels spending $1,500+ on a graphics card just to get the most out of the latest bullchit.

    These are the same people who try to trivialize why someone would want to spend $500 on a game console.
    the vast majority of gamers aren't buying the latest and greatest every time it drops. not everyone can afford it, but some people just like talking about the tech and the capability to upgrade modularly. a lot of gamers look forward to new releases so the previous cards (which are still quite good) will drop in price. if i buy a high end card i'm expecting it to last me several years.
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    Originally Posted by DrumsNotDead View Post
    the vast majority of gamers aren't buying the latest and greatest every time it drops. not everyone can afford it, but some people just like talking about the tech and the capability to upgrade modularly. a lot of gamers look forward to new releases so the previous cards (which are still quite good) will drop in price. if i buy a high end card i'm expecting it to last me several years.
    Well I know how a lot of it is just tech porn. It's like people who like to have overpowered modified cars they never really open up, they simply enjoy the excess or the mod scene or something.
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    Welp. I was holding out on upgrading my 1080 for the 4080 but now I don’t even want to lol. This is just stupid


    Oh and I love how the cheaper 4080 is really the 4070
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    I think this is simply showing off how retardedly excessive PC gaming has become. People spending small fortunes on ridiculous tech chit that is hardly worthwhile.
    Series X is fine for now but you can still slowly start building a PC in the meantime. Get a good CPU, PSU and cooler first and work on the other stuff later.
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    I remember back in the day mid-range cards like ATI 9600xt and 4850 that could play any game on the market at the time, smooth as butter cost at best $130.

    I'm still playing Cyberpunk at 1080p high with $200 RX580 from 2017, I'll probably get a 6700xt/3060ti level card once they are under $250ish.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Series X is fine for now but you can still slowly start building a PC in the meantime. Get a good CPU, PSU and cooler first and work on the other stuff later.
    Meh, that's just a hobby in itself, and it's something that I got out of my system a long time ago.

    I'm just at the point where I want good reliable access to the library of games I got, and the Series X is pretty much all I need when it comes to keeping up with the occasional latest game thanks to GamePass. My gaming laptop and Steam Deck seem to work great for most niche PC games as well, you really don't need some super-powered PC for the vast majority of games out there.
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    2080TI in my desktop and the 3060 in my laptop still doing fine, maybe when the 50XX drops I'll get around to upgrading.
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    The fact that DLSS 3.0 is exclusively for the 4 series is a whole lot of horsechit .... Hopefully these cards crash and burn, along with Jensen's silly leather jacket. DLSS is the only thing that actually matters for gamers.
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    yeah

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    Not much more than the 30 series cards so it's a no brainer to go from 20 series to 40 series.

    The 12gb 4080 is quite an upgrade from a 2080.

    The 30 series was the skippable gen since stock was unavailable and prices were ridiculous. A 3060 is going for $400+ still. ...

    I bought a 2060 for 200 bucks and it handles 1080p just fine. A 4080 on a 12th gen build with ddr5 should be future proof for years at 4k.
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    Not much more than the 30 series cards so it's a no brainer to go from 20 series to 40 series.

    The 12gb 4080 is quite an upgrade from a 2080.

    The 30 series was the skippable gen since stock was unavailable and prices were ridiculous. A 3060 is going for $400+ still. ...

    I bought a 2060 for 200 bucks and it handles 1080p just fine. A 4080 on a 12th gen build with ddr5 should be future proof for years at 4k.
    Don't get the 12gb, get the 16, but wait for benchmarks to come out. Nvidia is cooking the numbers most likely, as DLSS 3 adds a new ML frame average between the two it would normally make, meaning comparing frame rates isn't 1:1.
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