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    Originally Posted by vatn1k View Post
    This is just flat out not true. And that's like saying no one is truly Christian. OK. The whole point is fundamentalism taken to an extreme is the problem.
    If you’re religion taken to an extreme is harmful, then it’s not a good religion.

    If you’re an extreme mist Buddhist for example, you can’t even hurt a fly.

    “Extremism” basically means real take, no cherrypicking.
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    Originally Posted by Hussar1 View Post
    Wasn't Mary 13 when she got knocked up by "god"? Don't Catholics have a history of killing everyone they don't like and raping little boys?


    You Christians are as much the enemy of the West as Muslims.
    Sooooooo… Mary being older and Joseph being younger than Aisha and Muhammad (May he rot in hell) somehow makes it ok for Muhammad (May he rot in hell) to rape little girls and kill people by the thousands? I don’t think I quite follow your logic here. FYI I’m not a Christian either, just a guy that realizes there’s no place for Islam or it’s followers in modern society.
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    lol... urine idiot.
    If you voted in your life you either aren't a Muslim or a sinner. If you are, discuss with your Imam how to repent for your sins. Do not sin again.

    Democracy is a man-made system, meaning rule by the people for the people. Thus it is contrary to Islam, because rule is for Allaah, the Most High, the Almighty, and it is not permissible to give legislative rights to any human being, no matter who he is.

    It says in Mawsoo’at al-Adyaan wa’l-Madhaahib al-Mu’aasirah (2/1066, 1067):

    Undoubtedly the democratic system is one of the modern forms of shirk, in terms of obedience and following, or legislation, as it denies the sovereignty of the Creator and His absolute right to issue laws, and ascribes that right to human beings. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “You do not worship besides Him but only names which you have named (forged) — you and your fathers — for which Allaah has sent down no authority. The command (or the judgement) is for none but Allaah. He has commanded that you worship none but Him (i.e. His Monotheism); that is the (true) straight religion, but most men know not”

    [Yoosuf 12:40]
    The one who understands the true nature of the democratic system and the ruling thereon, then he nominates himself or someone else (for election) is approving of this system, and is working with it, is in grave danger, because the democratic system is contrary to Islam and approving of it and participating in it are actions that imply apostasy and being beyond the pale of Islam.
    It is not permissible for a Muslim to nominate himself in the hope that he can become part of a system which rules according to something other than that which Allaah has revealed and operates according to something other than the sharee’ah of Islam. It is not permissible for a Muslim to vote for him or for anyone else who will work in that government, unless the one who nominates himself or those who vote for him hope that by getting involved in that they will be able to change the system to one that operates according to the sharee’ah of Islam, and they are using this as a means to overcome the system of government, provided that the one who nominates himself will not accept any position after being elected except one that does not go against Islamic sharee’ah. End quote. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (23/406, 407
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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    Sooooooo… Mary being older and Joseph being younger than Aisha and Muhammad (May he rot in hell) somehow makes it ok for Muhammad (May he rot in hell) to rape little girls and kill people by the thousands? I don’t think I quite follow your logic here. FYI I’m not a Christian either, just a guy that realizes there’s no place for Islam or it’s followers in modern society.
    Also, he's using a fictional story vs actual reality.
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    If you voted in your life you either aren't a Muslim or a sinner. If you are, discuss with your Imam how to repent for your sins. Do not sin again.
    lol...

    You do realize there's Islamic democracies, yes? You're comparing worship to voting in politics. However, one thing I will agree with you on.. both sides lack values, especially the left. Voting for a degenerate or a party of degeneracy would be a conflict. It's why it's a damn shame that Muslims vote left in the U.S. but the main blame goes to the right when they make stupid bigoted statements, pushing Muslims away from the right.

    Stop believing the trash thrown in your direction. Better yet, study harder, research more. Eventually you'll realize and accept that Islam is and always has been right. Compare their society to the degeneracy of the West. It's a no brainer.

    Inb4 compares societies, refusing to accept the degeneracy of the West to throw some stones on Muslims and Muslim nations.

    Anyway, moving along.
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    lol...

    You do realize there's Islamic democracies, yes? You're comparing worship to voting in politics. However, one thing I will agree with you on.. both sides lack values, especially the left. Voting for a degenerate or a party of degeneracy would be a conflict. It's why it's a damn shame that Muslims vote left in the U.S. but the main blame goes to the right when they make stupid bigoted statements, pushing Muslims away from the right.

    Stop believing the trash thrown in your direction. Better yet, study harder, research more. Eventually you'll realize and accept that Islam is and always has been right. Compare their society to the degeneracy of the West. It's a no brainer.

    Inb4 compares societies, refusing to accept the degeneracy of the West to throw some stones on Muslims and Muslim nations.

    Anyway, moving along.
    There are no Islamic democracies. There are only Islamic countries and democratic countries with people pretending to be Muslims. Again, talk to your Imam he will agree with me and show you the way.
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    Sure poor ass third world countries are chitty to live in. To visit, amazing. However, there's quite a few Muslim countries that are far superior than the Western World nations.

    Education, safety, healthcare, cost of living, life expectancies, and best of all lack of degeneracy. All of these should be taken into account when examining a nation.

    Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia, as rich as it is, as safe as it is, it's a piece of chit to its neighbor and like a typical piece of chit, it's liberalizing itself to accept western world degeneracy.

    It would be no surprise that it is Saudi Arabia's government who will become the infidels and betray the Muslims.
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    Originally Posted by vatn1k View Post
    Is it really an "Islamist" party or is that hyperbole? Because to me Islamism means full on Jihadi bearded kill you for not submitting to them Sharia law Aloha Snackbar types.

    Erdogan is often labeled an Islamist, but that hardly fits him. He's just a nationalist autocrat lite who happens to be Muslim. That's not Islamism. I guess he might be considered an Islamist due to material aid to Islamic terrorists in Syria. But I view that as realpolitik rather than ideology. The US did the same, and we're hardly Islamist.
    Why are you bringing Erdogan itt?

    He isnt a fkn nationalist he is an islamist populist. Nationalists dont bring in goatfuker rapefugees from chitholes around the world and let them rape local women left and right.

    I blame cuck EU media for representing him as a nationalist. If you called him that in here theyd laugh at you.

    His party has always been either first or second choice of Kurds. Few years back he filmed head of main nationalist party having sex with his driver (homo) and then made him turn 180 and support himself. After that the nationalist party lost more than half their votes
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    There are no Islamic democracies. There are only Islamic countries and democratic countries with people pretending to be Muslims. Again, talk to your Imam he will agree with me and show you the way.
    The same can be said for Christianity then.
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    The same can be said for Christianity then.
    Why? Christianity has got reformed and modernized and made to fit humanity more than its cousins which are still in their cavemen form
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    Do you still live in the US? Or have you moved to one of the glorious mohammedan countries?
    Okay, that actually made me laugh.
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    There are no Islamic democracies. There are only Islamic countries and democratic countries with people pretending to be Muslims. Again, talk to your Imam he will agree with me and show you the way.
    ... Indonesia is LITERALLY an Islamic democracy. Do you even know what democracy means? Fk man.. this is sad. You could have, at the very least, taken 2 minutes of your time to google search, "Islamic democracy".

    Maybe after Islam takes over your poorly educated nation (apparently ranked 7th in world, mind you), your posterity will have a basic understanding of political science as pious Muslims speaking Arabic amongst themselves and their neighbors.

    May Allah (swt) grant you the best Islamic experience before your death.

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    Do you still live in the US? Or have you moved to one of the glorious mohammedan countries?
    Have you yet to even travel outside of your trailer park? Staycations count, in your case.

    You're a miserable old pissant, who no one will miss.
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    Cant look it up right now... but remember that segment from UK TV where a female reporter went to her hometown that had become overrun with Muslims.
    They told her she dressed like a whore, she didn't belong there, to get out of their town etc.


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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    ... Indonesia is LITERALLY an Islamic democracy. Do you even know what democracy means? Fk man.. this is sad. You could have, at the very least, taken 2 minutes of your time to google search, "Islamic democracy".

    Maybe after Islam takes over your poorly educated nation (apparently ranked 7th in world, mind you), your posterity will have a basic understanding of political science as pious Muslims speaking Arabic amongst themselves and their neighbors.

    May Allah (swt) grant you the best Islamic experience before your death.

    Ameen!




    Have you yet to even travel outside of your trailer park? Staycations count, in your case.

    You're a miserable old pissant, who no one will miss.
    He has a solid point though, if Islam is as amazing as you say, the Middle East has to be a literal heaven on earth.
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    ... Indonesia is LITERALLY an Islamic democracy. Do you even know what democracy means? Fk man.. this is sad. You could have, at the very least, taken 2 minutes of your time to google search, "Islamic democracy".

    Maybe after Islam takes over your poorly educated nation (apparently ranked 7th in world, mind you), your posterity will have a basic understanding of political science as pious Muslims speaking Arabic amongst themselves and their neighbors.

    May Allah (swt) grant you the best Islamic experience before your death.

    Ameen!




    Have you yet to even travel outside of your trailer park? Staycations count, in your case.

    You're a miserable old pissant, who no one will miss.
    I have dealt with chit tons of refugees during my service and also brainwashed morons joining islamic sects in my country. I know you people inside out.

    At least Jews dont try to convert other people to their chit religion unlike muslimfuks who actively and sometimes aggressively try to push their chit Mohammood beliefs on others (until they get buttraped by alpha secular laws that is)

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    He has a solid point though, if Islam is as amazing as you say, the Middle East has to be a literal heaven on earth.
    Only my country is slightly doing better and thats because we hanged jihadis and established secularism 90 years ago.

    I have asked this to some another arab he said muslim countries are chit because Allooh is punishing them for not being muslim enough. Then when I asked so why did he let the west prosper he said its cuz Allooh wants them to sin more so he can punish them more

    Allooh sounds like a major @s shole
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    The left openly gloats about using mass immigration as a weapon against the native population.

    Yet, 79.5% of Swedes did not cast their vote for the Sweden Democrats. In a way, I would argue the Sweden Democrats have arrived too late – at least as seen from their own ideological position. Today, 25% of Swedish citizens have an immigrant background, with two parents born outside Sweden. Sweden is, and will stay, a flourishing, multicultural society.
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    But, diversity is our strength!
    "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
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    But, diversity is our strength!
    Lol these people never learn. Diversity always leads to one group coming out stronger than the others and ruling over them all.
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    This is a good thing. Leftist aprties see musllims and immigrants as a new voter base; they must realise they don't reflect the values of those communities; those communities must form their own political parties that better reflect their values. Otherwise they will be dominated by leftists issues that benefit socially left white people.
    Same thing is happening with the latinos in America. Most Mexicans are devoted Catholics, and the left's pro abortion, LGBT, and degeneracy agenda is doomed to clash with their culture.

    The left needs to realize how they do a very poor job of representing 3'rd world traditionalists.
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    ... Indonesia is LITERALLY an Islamic democracy. Do you even know what democracy means? Fk man.. this is sad. You could have, at the very least, taken 2 minutes of your time to google search, "Islamic democracy".

    Maybe after Islam takes over your poorly educated nation (apparently ranked 7th in world, mind you), your posterity will have a basic understanding of political science as pious Muslims speaking Arabic amongst themselves and their neighbors.

    May Allah (swt) grant you the best Islamic experience before your death.

    Ameen!
    I don't know why you keep going against the Hadith. You are apparently no Muslim. Indonesia is not an Islamic democracy, because they are mutually exclusive. If they are democratic, that means Indonesians are not true Muslims but rather sinners.

    Originally Posted by vatn1k View Post
    The same can be said for Christianity then.
    Why? There is nothing in the bible or associated scriptures that prohibit man made laws.
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    Originally Posted by Sinan09400 View Post
    I have dealt with chit tons of refugees during my service and also brainwashed morons joining islamic sects in my country. I know you people inside out.

    At least Jews dont try to convert other people to their chit religion unlike muslimfuks who actively and sometimes aggressively try to push their chit Mohammood beliefs on others (until they get buttraped by alpha secular laws that is)



    Only my country is slightly doing better and thats because we hanged jihadis and established secularism 90 years ago.

    I have asked this to some another arab he said muslim countries are chit because Allooh is punishing them for not being muslim enough. Then when I asked so why did he let the west prosper he said its cuz Allooh wants them to sin more so he can punish them more

    Allooh sounds like a major @s shole

    Huh? We're not obligated to convert anyone, actually. In fact if you were to ask a Muslim a question about Islam and said Muslim doesn't know the answer, said Muslim can't give you an answer. At best guide you to speak to an actual scholar or imam. Not to mention there's multiple schools of thoughts, so the answer could vary within scope.

    Also, Jews hate non-Jews. Goyim are just slaves to the Jews. To be sullied and to sully others. Hence why almost if not every industry is impure and promotes degeneracy.

    Lastly, in the U.S. we have dense populations of Muslims, pssst there's no sharia law in a single U.S. city. Muslims moving into foreign nations must obey the laws of said foreign nations. It is a literal religious duty.
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    Huh? We're not obligated to convert anyone, actually. In fact if you were to ask a Muslim a question about Islam and said Muslim doesn't know the answer, said Muslim can't give you an answer. At best guide you to speak to an actual scholar or imam. Not to mention there's multiple schools of thoughts, so the answer could vary within scope.

    Also, Jews hate non-Jews. Goyim are just slaves to the Jews. To be sullied and to sully others. Hence why almost if not every industry is impure and promotes degeneracy.

    Lastly, in the U.S. we have dense populations of Muslims, pssst there's no sharia law in a single U.S. city. Muslims moving into foreign nations must obey the laws of said foreign nations. It is a literal religious duty.

    "Jews hate non Jews".
    Nah. Just radical Muslims, black nationalists and white supremacists. Far more Muslims are radical than the Jews who believe the cattle stuff.
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    Originally Posted by rentfreein View Post
    "Jews hate non Jews".
    Nah. Just radical Muslims, black nationalists and white supremacists. Far more Muslims are radical than the Jews who believe the cattle stuff.
    A Muslim down talking another religion for hating non believers, holy fukkin hypocrite. Muslims are as disgusting as democrats, they know damn well everything they say is a lie in attempt to further their agenda but constantly take the moral high road anyway.
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    lol...

    You do realize there's Islamic democracies, yes? You're comparing worship to voting in politics. However, one thing I will agree with you on.. both sides lack values, especially the left. Voting for a degenerate or a party of degeneracy would be a conflict. It's why it's a damn shame that Muslims vote left in the U.S. but the main blame goes to the right when they make stupid bigoted statements, pushing Muslims away from the right.

    Stop believing the trash thrown in your direction. Better yet, study harder, research more. Eventually you'll realize and accept that Islam is and always has been right. Compare their society to the degeneracy of the West. It's a no brainer.

    Inb4 compares societies, refusing to accept the degeneracy of the West to throw some stones on Muslims and Muslim nations.

    Anyway, moving along.
    BOLD: Its funny that right leaning immigrants and in your case muslims always make that excuse.....however, that never stopped you/them from voting (R)? How about instead just blame the muslims who vote (D)...us (R) whiteys have no problem blaming (D) whiteys for voting for the groomers.

    Hey Abdula, that (R) said something mean...well screw him then, Im voting for (D) groomer who wants to bang my 10 year old!!!
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    Islam is generally preferable to the far left/libs. The problem is the extremists in Islam can **** things up as well. And a lot of people from ****hole Muslim countries are basically low IQ lawless plebs.




    With that said I will laugh hard when the libs/leftists that fill their countries with Muslim immigrants realize these people have completely different beliefs/values and will literally murder them over it.
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    Originally Posted by rentfreein View Post
    "Jews hate non Jews".
    Nah. Just radical Muslims, black nationalists and white supremacists. Far more Muslims are radical than the Jews who believe the cattle stuff.
    Oh word? Guess Talmud is just a fantasy.

    lol @ you.

    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    BOLD: Its funny that right leaning immigrants and in your case muslims always make that excuse.....however, that never stopped you/them from voting (R)? How about instead just blame the muslims who vote (D)...us (R) whiteys have no problem blaming (D) whiteys for voting for the groomers.

    Hey Abdula, that (R) said something mean...well screw him then, Im voting for (D) groomer who wants to bang my 10 year old!!!
    The U.S. doesn't have many choices for electing leaders. 99% of the time its career politicians and or Zionists. None of which benefits anyone in the world really except for the usual suspects.

    However, DeSantis will more than likely bring in more Muslims to the right. Don't see Trump pulling that off.
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