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    Could you try selling Mitchell to the CMC owner? Like Mitchell + a WR for a better WR?
    The CMC owner did send an offer that included Mitchel yesterday but it was an awful offer. He asked for Diggs as well since his team is weak at WR.
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    Snagged Murray on waivers. Sucks for the guy who dropped him a week ago and bid $42 and still got outbid by me. Anyway I’m thinking if benching swift for Murray. Swifts usage just isn’t there. Also Kittle or Freirmouth? Leaning Freirmouth but it’s hard to sit Kittle.
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    Originally Posted by sfgiants13 View Post
    Snagged Murray on waivers. Sucks for the guy who dropped him a week ago and bid $42 and still got outbid by me. Anyway I’m thinking if benching swift for Murray. Swifts usage just isn’t there. Also Kittle or Freirmouth? Leaning Freirmouth but it’s hard to sit Kittle.
    i can't sit kittle unless he's hurt

    i do agree murray this week. tough match for swift and jamaal clearly gets the money carries. swift's been a huge disappointment
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    Sam Darnold back in for the Panthers QB. At least DJ Moore had success with him last year. Hopefully this is a positive for Moore. Yes grasping at straws.
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    Originally Posted by Murph0408 View Post
    i can't sit kittle unless he's hurt

    i do agree murray this week. tough match for swift and jamaal clearly gets the money carries. swift's been a huge disappointment
    At some point, Swift is going to have a huge game. Good luck guessing which one, though, LOL. Seems doubtful tomorrow.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with this BUT Lazard is getting harder and harder to trust. And now it looks like Rodgers has decided to stop relying on him in the redone and throw (almost exclusively) to Christian Watson for some reason. Maybe it's just an anomaly, but it's troublesome. Lazard's success all year has really been propped up on his ability to score touchdowns because he's not lighting it up with yardage because GB's offense sucks.

    It's probably my fault. Everyone I touch is on a dogsh*t offense so my apologies lol.
    That is exactly what I am feeling. I am having a hard time not starting him but as you said, GB is a mess I want to avoid especially going into a tough matchup against Philadelphia. I think Rodgers targeted Lazard for lack of anyone else and he didn't exactly do a great job catching those targets, with Cobb back and Watson seemingly having stepped up as the go to guy, I don't see a whole lot of potential left for Lazard. I think the max I get out of Lazard this week is 10pts.

    While Pariss's numbers in his last 4 games with Matt Ryan have been very good and he is up against Pittsburgh that gives up the most points to receivers. The more I think about trying to pick between mediocre receivers of washed up QBs, I might just bench them both and go back to my 3 RB lineup with Ekeler, Singletary and Foreman
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    Originally Posted by Cartiac View Post
    I think Rodgers targeted Lazard for lack of anyone else
    I'm not going to go that far. I think Lazard is still a fine option out of the WR in GB. My worry is that the end zone targets might get a bit diluted because of Watson. No one in GB is reeling in enough yards to be enticing without TDs to go with it. I still think Lazard is the best of the bunch to get the most targets, and even potentially the most yards, but even if that's true he's been over 100 yards only once this year. He needs to TDs, and if Watson is going to start siphoning some of those from him it definitely hurts Lazard big time.

    I still wouldn't play Watson over Lazard, because I don't trust Watson any more for the exact same reasons. Sure the last two weeks have been his, but he's as likely as Lazard to suddenly stop getting the TDs if it shifts back to Lazard.

    Basically, Lazard is still the best of the bunch. I just don't like any of them. Lazard's value was good because he had a monopoly on the situation, but now no one seems to have that in GB and Rodgers isn't being Rodgers enough to feed multiple mouths.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    At some point, Swift is going to have a huge game. Good luck guessing which one, though, LOL. Seems doubtful tomorrow.
    If there's any week for him to be heavily used it should be this one against Buffalo. Should be getting a lot of targets if they hope to keep up.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Cobb is the man for this week in GB if you absolutely have to play a GB WR (I would avoid at all costs). Philly has two shut down corners on the outside, so anything you get in the passing game against them is going to come from the slot. It's probably more like a Jones/Dillon game since Philly is a little vulnerable to the run.
    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    I'm not going to go that far. I think Lazard is still a fine option out of the WR in GB. My worry is that the end zone targets might get a bit diluted because of Watson. No one in GB is reeling in enough yards to be enticing without TDs to go with it. I still think Lazard is the best of the bunch to get the most targets, and even potentially the most yards, but even if that's true he's been over 100 yards only once this year. He needs to TDs, and if Watson is going to start siphoning some of those from him it definitely hurts Lazard big time.

    I still wouldn't play Watson over Lazard, because I don't trust Watson any more for the exact same reasons. Sure the last two weeks have been his, but he's as likely as Lazard to suddenly stop getting the TDs if it shifts back to Lazard.

    Basically, Lazard is still the best of the bunch. I just don't like any of them. Lazard's value was good because he had a monopoly on the situation, but now no one seems to have that in GB and Rodgers isn't being Rodgers enough to feed multiple mouths.
    Thanks guys, much appreciate the advice. You've convinced me Campbell is out but now the question becomes Lazard or Dont'a Foreman at flex? PPR rules. I've got Ekeler and Singletary in at RBs. Keenan Allen and Jakobi Meyers at WR, now leaning toward putting Foreman back in at flex instead of Lazard. Good move or no?
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    Originally Posted by Cartiac View Post
    Thanks guys, much appreciate the advice. You've convinced me Campbell is out but now the question becomes Lazard or Dont'a Foreman at flex? PPR rules. I've got Ekeler and Singletary in at RBs. Keenan Allen and Jakobi Meyers at WR, now leaning toward putting Foreman back in at flex instead of Lazard. Good move or no?
    I was a Foreman guy as soon as Mccaff went down. it's been a mixed bag and if the team isn't competing he's the first guy they pull from the playbook. last 5 games he has 3 games of 118+ yards and 2 absolute stinkers.

    denver won't knock them out right away so maybe it's a Foreman week. I'd be tempted.
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    Every time I play Singletary he's mediocre and every time I bench him he finds the end zone. Benched him in weeks 3, 6, 10, and 11 and those are all his good games. I've played him on weeks 5, 8, 9, and now 12. Yet to hit double digit points from him

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    Originally Posted by Murph0408 View Post
    I was a Foreman guy as soon as Mccaff went down. it's been a mixed bag and if the team isn't competing he's the first guy they pull from the playbook. last 5 games he has 3 games of 118+ yards and 2 absolute stinkers.

    denver won't knock them out right away so maybe it's a Foreman week. I'd be tempted.
    Denver's D tougher against the pass than the run, and their offense will make sure Carolina is never chasing points, so maybe it is a good game or Foreman. Foreman's value is less in PPR than standard, but I still think I'd go with him over Lazard for a flex this week.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Every time I play Singletary he's mediocre and every time I bench him he finds the end zone. Benched him in weeks 3, 6, 10, and 11 and those are all his good games. I've played him on weeks 5, 8, 9, and now 12. Yet to hit double digit points from him

    Ever feel like you just can't win with a player? That's Singletary for me.
    same, also running Singletary as my "first off the bench" guy. barring injury, he won't sniff the lineup come playoffs.

    now today do I got with a potentially hurt Deebo or Josh Palmer who plays Arizona and may see Mike Williams role. Could also go Chris Godwin but I think with the weather in Cleveland that would be a bad call.
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    same, also running Singletary as my "first off the bench" guy. barring injury, he won't sniff the lineup come playoffs.

    now today do I got with a potentially hurt Deebo or Josh Palmer who plays Arizona and may see Mike Williams role. Could also go Chris Godwin but I think with the weather in Cleveland that would be a bad call.
    i like palmer a lot for as long as Williams is out, i don't think Keenan takes anything away from him because they are two very different players. If anything Keenan's return probably opens something up for Palmer.

    that said if Deebo's on the field i'm not sitting him.
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    Originally Posted by Murph0408 View Post
    i like palmer a lot for as long as Williams is out, i don't think Keenan takes anything away from him because they are two very different players. If anything Keenan's return probably opens something up for Palmer.

    that said if Deebo's on the field i'm not sitting him.
    I think I’m sitting deebo for cooper this week. I can’t seem to play Amari the right weeks, hopefully this is the one (he’s at home)
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    need a quick take. pick one.
    Montgomery @ Jets
    Gibson vs Falcons
    Foreman vs Broncos

    was going to go Montgomery but now nate peterman is playing.......................
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    need a quick take. pick one.
    Montgomery @ Jets
    Gibson vs Falcons
    Foreman vs Broncos

    was going to go Montgomery but now nate peterman is playing.......................
    I'd probably go Gibson just because of matchup but I like him and Monty pretty equal.
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    Originally Posted by WHChampion View Post
    I'd probably go Gibson just because of matchup but I like him and Monty pretty equal.
    ended up sticking w/ montgomery once they announced they were just kidding and Trev Sim is starting
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    Waiver wire help this week. I have a team with Tues noon waivers, so I may not have updates on Najee, Warren, or CMC before that time. How do people think about these guys?

    Warren (Pit) <== If Najee's out and he's playing, get this guy. Snell is a core special teamer. They don't really want him to work on offense. He did it last night and looked decent, but if Warren is playing with Najee out, he'll be a bell cow back (for a team with a pretty light schedule down the stretch).
    Davis-Price / Mason (SF) <== Who is the better add here, especially if CMC's knee issue is going to limit him (I don't think he will actually miss any games, though)? Mason (like Snell) has been a game day active just for special teams and has looked competent when forced into the offense. TDP was playing ahead of him earlier in the year, though, and probably has more juice in general.
    Zonovan (NYJ) <== Who TF is this guy?!? I'd never even heard of him until he started putting up numbers this week.
    Johnson (NYJ) <== Ty Johnson has always looked decent in sub roles at RB, but this UDFA Zonovan plays the bell cow over him? Is Robinson going to be the bell cow this week and make all of this moot?

    At TE, what about Jelani Woods? He's an athletic freak, a 6'7" dude who runs a 4.5 40 at TE. But he did next to nothing except a couple red zone looks before getting 9 targets last night (and looking like a real weapon all over the field). His drawback was always that he was a raw rookie, and then at the end of the game (just to prove it, I guess), he got blow up in pass pro that led to a key 3rd down sack. Is he worth an add? This team has Higbee and Taysom at TE, so I could definitely use a stash in case he turns into a real thing.
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    Kind of pissening how soon as I need to drop Latavius Murray and Jaylen Warren to cover for byes/injuries in multiple leagues they become very relevant. Been holding these guys for months.
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    Kind of pissening how soon as I need to drop Latavius Murray and Jaylen Warren to cover for byes/injuries in multiple leagues they become very relevant. Been holding these guys for months.
    Boone is coming off IR. He's going to cut into Murray's role. The Broncos love him for some reason and their offense is atrocious, so I don't know if they can support a fantasy relevant RB committee.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Waiver wire help this week. I have a team with Tues noon waivers, so I may not have updates on Najee, Warren, or CMC before that time. How do people think about these guys?

    Warren (Pit) <== If Najee's out and he's playing, get this guy. Snell is a core special teamer. They don't really want him to work on offense. He did it last night and looked decent, but if Warren is playing with Najee out, he'll be a bell cow back (for a team with a pretty light schedule down the stretch).
    Davis-Price / Mason (SF) <== Who is the better add here, especially if CMC's knee issue is going to limit him (I don't think he will actually miss any games, though)? Mason (like Snell) has been a game day active just for special teams and has looked competent when forced into the offense. TDP was playing ahead of him earlier in the year, though, and probably has more juice in general.
    Zonovan (NYJ) <== Who TF is this guy?!? I'd never even heard of him until he started putting up numbers this week.
    Johnson (NYJ) <== Ty Johnson has always looked decent in sub roles at RB, but this UDFA Zonovan plays the bell cow over him? Is Robinson going to be the bell cow this week and make all of this moot?

    At TE, what about Jelani Woods? He's an athletic freak, a 6'7" dude who runs a 4.5 40 at TE. But he did next to nothing except a couple red zone looks before getting 9 targets last night (and looking like a real weapon all over the field). His drawback was always that he was a raw rookie, and then at the end of the game (just to prove it, I guess), he got blow up in pass pro that led to a key 3rd down sack. Is he worth an add? This team has Higbee and Taysom at TE, so I could definitely use a stash in case he turns into a real thing.
    AA in Vegas might be worth a stash. Jacobs has a strained calf and won’t practice all week. If he has a setback there’s a ton of touches going to AA
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    Pick 1 longshot QB to stream this week:

    Pickett @ ATL
    Mike White @ MIN
    Russ @ BAL
    Tannehill @ PHI
    Mac Jones vs BUF
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    Originally Posted by WHChampion View Post
    Pick 1 longshot QB to stream this week:

    Pickett @ ATL
    Mike White @ MIN
    Russ @ BAL
    Tannehill @ PHI
    Mac Jones vs BUF
    Tannehill's looking kinda good lately and is healthy but hate the matchup.

    at first glance i'm leaning Kenny Pickett. he hasn't thrown a pick since the bye. favorable matchup through the air. Pickens is flashing his potential every week now.
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    Would you guys play zonovan over singletary this week in PPR? Singletary is great for like 9.5 points against bad defenses, not sure he’ll do much tonight. Just worried knight was a one week wonder and will get like 6 touches this week
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    Originally Posted by Murph0408 View Post
    Tannehill's looking kinda good lately and is healthy but hate the matchup.

    at first glance i'm leaning Kenny Pickett. he hasn't thrown a pick since the bye. favorable matchup through the air. Pickens is flashing his potential every week now.
    This is the way I was leaning too. Feels like Tannehill is going to hand off to Henry 35 times since that seems to be the way to compete with Philly. Pickett should be able to get me at least 12-15 points which I'm fine with.

    I see rankings everywhere have Mike White as the highest but that just seems like a trap.

    Originally Posted by ezmac31 View Post
    Would you guys play zonovan over singletary this week in PPR? Singletary is great for like 9.5 points against bad defenses, not sure he’ll do much tonight. Just worried knight was a one week wonder and will get like 6 touches this week
    Damn that's a tough one. I lean Singletary since you know he'll get touches and has a reasonable chance at scoring.

    I don't hate starting Zonovan though. At least if he flops you only have to see it for a couple days but if Singletary gets like 5 points you'll have to see that chit for 5 days lol.
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    Originally Posted by ezmac31 View Post
    Would you guys play zonovan over singletary this week in PPR? Singletary is great for like 9.5 points against bad defenses, not sure he’ll do much tonight. Just worried knight was a one week wonder and will get like 6 touches this week
    This is a floor vs ceiling question. If you think you're favored and need a safe floor, go Singletary. If you need to go for it with a big score, I think Zonovan has a higher ceiling.
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    Originally Posted by Murph0408 View Post
    Tannehill's looking kinda good lately and is healthy but hate the matchup.

    at first glance i'm leaning Kenny Pickett. he hasn't thrown a pick since the bye. favorable matchup through the air. Pickens is flashing his potential every week now.
    I agree on Pickett. You can see him maturing every week. He and Pickens are going to have a breakout game at some point where they put up pinball numbers. This easily could be the one against a trash Atlanta secondary. I like White's upside, too. All of their WRs are healthy with Davis back (and Eli actually getting some targets...), and White looked like the real deal last week. That game could be a shootout in the dome in Minny.

    Both Pickett and White are risky, though, too. Tannehill and Mac probably both have a safer floor, but very limited upside.
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    Jamaal Williams
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    Full ppr, pick 2

    Jamaal Williams
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    I’d be sitting Williams. TD defendant, gets no passing game work, and swifts role is growing every week (this is the first week he isn’t on the injury list)
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