**OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION

[MinisterOfLust]

Brutal indeed. You voted for joe biden. You deserve this.

Biden is running the stock market? Lol

[Carbonfibre]

I'm genuinely surprised inflation came in above expectations here, very interested to see the breakdown and analysis

food / shelter and medical looks like


energy is stabilizing

this brings 75bps at 80% chance next week and 20% of 100bps hike.

[GreatReset1]

Brutal today. RIP guys

I am happy you are losing money. You voted for this.

[Destor]

food / shelter and medical looks like


energy is stabilizing

this brings 75bps at 80% chance next week and 20% of 100bps hike.





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Man oh man, this is not going to be good for inflation expectations and what the Fed needs to do to tame them. These gains in Core CPI are going to be sticky, how the fuk are new car costs still going up? Used cars barely inched down, not what I expected.

[Lefticle]

Biden is running the stock market? Lol

Democrats have a monetary policy and are passing bills and executive orders, signed by biden, that massively influence the stock market.

[MinisterOfLust]

I am happy you are losing money. You voted for this.

That's not nice. We are in this together.

Plus remember, you can't lose if you don't sell, right?

[Carbonfibre]

Man oh man, this is not going to be good for inflation expectations and what the Fed needs to do to tame them. These gains in Core CPI are going to be sticky, how the fuk are new car costs still going up? Used cars barely inched down, not what I expected.

Sticky for sure.

No wonder last month Jerome said don't fight us. Market was getting ahead of itself.

Rates will keep going up.

Should be 4% by early next year atm.

[camaleom]

I am happy you are losing money. You voted for this.

I wonder if people said the same during Feb-March 2020 LOL

[RobParks2M]

That's not nice. We are in this together.

Plus remember, you can't lose if you don't sell, right?

If you live in a trailer and your biggest investment is a 30 rack of Busch light and a carton of cigs we aren’t in it together lmao. That dude is a bum.

[MinisterOfLust]

Elias is unhinged with the negs. I thought we were Palantir brothers and sisters... Leave politics out of this thread ph0ggot.

[Elias373]

Elias is unhinged with the negs. I thought we were Palantir brothers and sisters... Leave politics out of this thread ph0ggot.

Sorry bro I didnt even check who it was I just saw Bidenomics

[camaleom]

Sorry bro I didnt even check who it was I just saw Bidenomics

buhahahahaahahahahahahah

[OT2000]

Lol if you didn’t sell everything this morning.

We in recession now, let’s be real.

[Carbonfibre]

I mean you must be dumb as brick to keep buying shiit (growth stocks) that can't survive high finance rates.

Every time market sells down and same people that come in to cry.

You can exactly tell what garbage stocks they are holding.

Nobody fault but your own that you keep giving money to whales that are laughing at you as they shorted these growth stocks to here.

You will be diamond handing these stocks for years plus (if they even survive and don't go bankrupt)


Sometimes I feel bad and want to offer help.

Than I realize whats the point.

Stock market needs people like this so smart people can make money.

[camaleom]

Lol if you didn’t sell everything this morning.

We in recession now, let’s be real.

wrong way to look at it - u must buy stonks on days like today. I don't understand why people wait until the stonk is ath to buy.

[GreatReset1]

If you live in a trailer and your biggest investment is a 30 rack of Busch light and a carton of cigs we aren’t in it together lmao. That dude is a bum.

Biden paying off a trillion in student debt doesn't affect the economy. You are low IQ..

[MinisterOfLust]

wrong way to look at it - u must buy stonks on days like today. I don't understand why people wait until the stonk is ath to buy.

This.

[GreatReset1]

When an election is stolen.. people need to answer for there decisions. Consequences are needed.

[MinisterOfLust]

buhahahahaahahahahahahah

Usually I don't care about negs since I get neg almost every day, but the last neg made me laugh as well saddened me. Lol.. but I got that covered early today: isn't that ironic
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[heiltrump2024]

any predictions for what happens when we stop tapping into SPR?

[Carbonfibre]

won't have any effect when SPR is stopped.

should be end of November afaik.


if Fed keeps tightening bigger and more

unemployment will go up

around 5% unemployment Fed will have to stop.

we are at 3.6% unemployment rate atm



sticky inflation will drag whole stock market down fyi

multiples are gonna go down and you could be having fair value dragged lower


forward multiple dropping to 17x

earnings per share ie lets say go down to $225

sp 500 fair value would be 3800ish

[RobParks2M]

won't have any effect when SPR is stopped.

should be end of November afaik.


if Fed keeps tightening bigger and more

unemployment will go up

around 5% unemployment Fed will have to stop.

we are at 3.6% unemployment rate atm

This. SPR at this point is flooding market for no reason. Saudi is already trying to cut back production which should signal the added 2 months of reserve distribution was unnecessary and just emptying reserves just to lower prices to appease voters. It's weird they want to keep doing that until voting is done in November huh?

Fed has been very forward in saying they want to increase unemployment because tight labor market is a key driver of inflation right now by forcing value of labor up it increases pricing for goods as well. It seems fukking stupid that the people worst off in the country (the workers) finally have a chance to get better/fairer wages for themselves in the open markets and fed has decided that we cannot risk them getting better raises time to force layoffs!

[heiltrump2024]

wasn't the consensus earlier that CPI was only coming down due to tapping into SPR, therefore stopping use of SPR would lead to higher CPI prints?

This. SPR at this point is flooding market for no reason. Saudi is already trying to cut back production which should signal the added 2 months of reserve distribution was unnecessary and just emptying reserves just to lower prices to appease voters. It's weird they want to keep doing that until voting is done in November huh?

Fed has been very forward in saying they want to increase unemployment because tight labor market is a key driver of inflation right now by forcing value of labor up it increases pricing for goods as well. It seems fukking stupid that the people worst off in the country (the workers) finally have a chance to get better/fairer wages for themselves in the open markets and fed has decided that we cannot risk them getting better raises time to force layoffs!

what sector(s) do you foresee these layoffs coming in?

[GreatReset1]

China released Covid-19 in part with the Democrats to crash everything...

The Democrats planned Jan 6th...

You are seeing the Great Reset in front if your eyes..

No one cares because Men are Weak.. see people in this thread.

Wake up...

[Destor]

For oil, I think the biggest development coming up is the additional EU Russian oil sanctions slated for December

Or the Russian oil price cap + their reaction

[headturner1]

Just
Fukin
El oh el

[Carbonfibre]

This has been working fairly nice last few months.

You're basically looking for dip buyers to appear at 3900. (if sell continues tmmrw)


When RSI gets oversold (X) or overbought (Y) you get fairly nice chance to play short term. (this applies for this week only)


Due to next week being shiit show with Fed meeting.

Yesterday market was pricing in 100 point move on SP....+/- $10 based on straddle.

We got that and than some.

[RobParks2M]

China released Covid-19 in part with the Democrats to crash everything...

The Democrats planned Jan 6th...

You are seeing the Great Reset in front if your eyes..

No one cares because Men are Weak.. see people in this thread.

Wake up...

That is why you are broke and don't even lift so you are one of few genuinely weak men in this thread. Stop acting like being conservative hides the fact you are a useless conspiratard. It is amusing you think a great reset would be good for you and bad for everyone else. In reality I've probably got far more guns/ammo than you, my own small farm/orchard, water rights to the Colorado river, and a fairly seamlessly integrated smart home w/solar panels and a back up generator.



EDIT:

WOW markets are still dropping. Crazy volatility is always fun to watch. I think we might be breaking SPY 390 next week. Although I don't think we see new lows for the year yet unless market tries to start pricing in job losses before they happen.

[SipNPiz]

Intel at a 6 year low, think their stock is better than sitting in cash until market bottom?

[RobParks2M]

Intel at a 6 year low, think their stock is better than sitting in cash until market bottom?

Depends. Have you maxed out your 10% gain on I-bonds yet?