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  • Aaron Rodgers

    2 3.57%
  • Patrick Mahomes

    6 10.71%
  • Josh Allen

    17 30.36%
  • Justin Herbert

    8 14.29%
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    0 0%
  • Derrick Henry

    1 1.79%
  • Joe Burrow

    1 1.79%
  • Lamar Jackson

    4 7.14%
  • Tom Brady

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    One of the few sports misc threads where I can almost find each response reasonably valid...
    There are way too many good QBs in the league to even consider any other position tho
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Everyone is saying Allen from recency bias from those 2 playoff games. His regular season was not all that great last year and the bills had an easy schedule. Allen was still up and down.

    I think the bills are vastly overrated going in to this season and will get exposed with a much harder scheduled.
    not even saying it due to recency bias. Allen has a good schedule. Hes an AFC East team, so he gets the Jets, Dolphins x2 each. Bills play the nFC north, he gets to beat up on Chicago/Detriot/Minny which all have expected below average defences and could be shootout games.

    Its one thing to like another QB more, but to say its recency bias is underestimating the impact schedule has on stat-piling and wins. Hes the surest bet to be the QB of a division winner, who will put up pass TD and rush TD stats.

    He's the favourite for a reason, not just because of 2 playoff games.
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Burrow weirdly being overlooked
    You aren’t wrong. But lots of newer QBs that go to super bowl sort of regress the next year when defenses sort of “figure them out” Burrow likely still great, but will he be able to carry when defenses finally have had a full season of his play to look through?
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    Originally Posted by HockeyBacon18 View Post
    not even saying it due to recency bias. Allen has a good schedule. Hes an AFC East team, so he gets the Jets, Dolphins x2 each. Bills play the nFC north, he gets to beat up on Chicago/Detriot/Minny which all have expected below average defences and could be shootout games.

    Its one thing to like another QB more, but to say its recency bias is underestimating the impact schedule has on stat-piling and wins. Hes the surest bet to be the QB of a division winner, who will put up pass TD and rush TD stats.

    He's the favourite for a reason, not just because of 2 playoff games.
    That argument makes sense but you have to consider schedule strength .

    Their schedule is actually harder this year than last. According to this site below, they effectively had the EASIEST schedule in football last year. And they still made it more of a struggle to win the division than people expected. Yes you can point to what should be some easy wins, but its overall expected to be a much harder schedule.

    So its not hard to imagine them underperforming expectation that they're basically going to dominate. That's what happened last year, the bills still won the division but it was more of a struggle than people thought the perception was they underperformed and Allen at the end of the day wasnt in the MVP conversation because of it.


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    Originally Posted by RobParks2M View Post
    You aren’t wrong. But lots of newer QBs that go to super bowl sort of regress the next year when defenses sort of “figure them out” Burrow likely still great, but will he be able to carry when defenses finally have had a full season of his play to look through?
    The counter to this argument is he should have a functioning offensive line this year. That could definitely make a huge difference.

    My main concern with him and bengals in general is regression from Chase more than Burrow. One leads to the other, but I think its more that Chase wont absolutely go off several times to get them wins by himself.
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    Originally Posted by RobParks2M View Post
    You aren’t wrong. But lots of newer QBs that go to super bowl sort of regress the next year when defenses sort of “figure them out” Burrow likely still great, but will he be able to carry when defenses finally have had a full season of his play to look through?
    Huh? Like who? Please explain “lots”. Because there are more examples of young QB’s who have continued to be great.
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    Probably Brady because they’ll feel bad for stealing last years from him
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    Originally Posted by Vhagar View Post
    Probably Brady because they’ll feel bad for stealing last years from him
    I'm curious if Canton will go with his pre or post-op face on the bronze bust?

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    Originally Posted by thedarrenestes View Post
    I'm curious which face Canton will go with for his bronze bust?

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    Originally Posted by Vhagar View Post
    They’ll probably move canton into a Mount Rushmore styled mountain of just his face. With all the lesser players busts inside
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    Originally Posted by thedarrenestes View Post
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    Originally Posted by Gryphonly View Post
    List is brutal…Brady…Rodgers…. No Taylor….no Kupp……
    Taylor did great but not an all time great last year for the RB1, and Kupp didn't win it despite a legendary season why would he get it this time around when he's less likely to duplicate?
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    Anyone who thinks Sleepy Joe Burrow will win NFL MVP this year has a dangerously low IQ and should honestly get hit by a drunk driver like Lunatic.
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    Originally Posted by akmerle View Post
    Huh? Like who? Please explain “lots”. Because there are more examples of young QB’s who have continued to be great.

    You're braindead. In recent memory:

    -Kaepernick
    -Scam Newton
    -Goff
    -Jimmy G


    All turned to dog**** after their peak Super Bowl appearance (loss).

    QBs who lose their first super bowl attempt don't go back to another super bowl anymore. Keep crying.
    All it takes is Mookie Betts, Steph Curry, and Joe Burrow all sitting in the same car in order for one drunk driver to make the world a significantly better place.
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    You're braindead. In recent memory:

    -Kaepernick
    -Scam Newton
    -Goff
    -Jimmy G


    All turned to dog**** after their peak Super Bowl appearance (loss).

    QBs who lose their first super bowl attempt don't go back to another super bowl anymore. Keep crying.
    Those guys were never close to as good as burrow to begin with.

    Stupid comparison.
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    You're braindead. In recent memory:

    -Kaepernick
    -Scam Newton
    -Goff
    -Jimmy G


    All turned to dog**** after their peak Super Bowl appearance (loss).

    QBs who lose their first super bowl attempt don't go back to another super bowl anymore. Keep crying.
    WTf are you even talking about? Besides absolute HOF’ers, EVERYONE regresses to their mean after peak years.

    And it’s only QB’s, not the team, right? Like the QB doesn’t stand to gain the most from team overall playing well?

    And so it’s only the Super Bowl huh? Like the NFL doesn’t pay attention to studs who lose earlier on the playoffs?

    Kap’s next two years as a full time starter were his best years after his playoff run in 2012 .

    Lol, so it was the league catching up to Cam in his only his 5th year?

    Goff was always a system QB.

    And Jimmy G has been the same guy (when healthy) the whole time in SF, and had them in the NFC Championship game last year.

    Lol, also please show me what QB’s ever make it to play in multiple Super Bowls. You’ll notice a trend.
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    As much as I (along with the numbers and results) don't see his style producing winning football in the playoffs...... could absolutely see it being Lamar. They didnt take care of him this offseason, so this is a contract year for him. He will ball out this regular season with a chip on his shoulder.
    This. People are kind of forgetting about Jackson, but he was an MVP candidate at the mid-point of the season last year, and that's with like half the Ravens starters being on IR.
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    This. People are kind of forgetting about Jackson, but he was an MVP candidate at the mid-point of the season last year, and that's with like half the Ravens starters being on IR.
    That's definitely possible, but he will have to surpass his 2019 season, which was insane, to get the MVP I think.

    Big fan of Lamar in general, I'd like to see the Ravens make playoff noise.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    That's definitely possible, but he will have to surpass his 2019 season, which was insane, to get the MVP I think.

    Big fan of Lamar in general, I'd like to see the Ravens make playoff noise.
    Lamar needs the new contract stuff done and behind him--then I could see him winning another one for sure.
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    Lamar needs the new contract stuff done and behind him--then I could see him winning another one for sure.
    I'm not sure they want to give him that big contract just yet.
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    Originally Posted by Evolutionary1 View Post
    I'm not sure they want to give him that big contract just yet.
    No agent in their right mind should EVER let their client step on the field playing under their 5th year option, especially a QB. But since Lamar is his own agent, I can see this thing ending VERY badly for either side.

    Hope not, cuz I like kid and always liked the Ravens in the AFC.
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    Originally Posted by ajdahlheimer View Post
    No agent in their right mind should EVER let their client step on the field playing under their 5th year option, especially a QB. But since Lamar is his own agent, I can see this thing ending VERY badly for either side.

    Hope not, cuz I like kid and always liked the Ravens in the AFC.
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    Originally Posted by semenreleaser View Post
    This. People are kind of forgetting about Jackson, but he was an MVP candidate at the mid-point of the season last year, and that's with like half the Ravens starters being on IR.
    people arent forgetting, there's still a big group of haters who dont believe he's that good. And he legitimately played awful the last few games before he got hurt so thats whats fresh in everyones mind
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    Those guys were never close to as good as burrow to begin with.

    Stupid comparison.
    Cam Newton won league MVP...the only things Joe Burrow has won in the NFL are a bunch of knee injuries and an appendectomy.


    Have a seat son. Try not to rope when your hero suffers a career ending tibia fracture this year. I'm here for it.
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    Cam Newton won league MVP...the only things Joe Burrow has won in the NFL are a bunch of knee injuries and an appendectomy.


    Have a seat son. Try not to rope when your hero suffers a career ending tibia fracture this year. I'm here for it.
    Carson Wentz had an mvp level season too. Over the course of time one great season dont mean anything

    Also no idea why you're calling him my hero, I didnt even vote for him
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