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    At what weight is recomping better than cutting

    If someone is obese, you'd recommend them to cut. If someone was skinnyfat/low muscle mass, i.e. maybe in the 160-180 lb range depending on their height, you'd probably recommend them to eat at maintainance and recomp.

    Where exactly is the point where someone should stop cutting and go for a recomp instead?
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    When it aligns with their goals & preferences.
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    The answer would be different for a powerlifter vs. rubgby player vs. competetive bodybuilder.

    For the weekend warrior, it's entirely up to you. These aren't rules, just what experience says will get you where (we think) you want to be.
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    I should rephrase this question, Assuming someone eat high protein and lifts, and the only variable is the amount of calories from carbs/fat that are consumed.

    Would it be better to lose 2 lbs a week to get the weight off as fast as possible so you can start bulking sooner? Or would losing 1 lb a week be better for preserving muscle?

    Would taking double as much time to lose the weight be worth the amount of extra muscle you'd gain from losing weight more slowly.
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    I should rephrase this question
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    Originally Posted by tadpole25 View Post
    I should rephrase this question, Assuming someone eat high protein and lifts, and the only variable is the amount of calories from carbs/fat that are consumed.
    What constitutes "lifts" & one's own body are the bigger variables here, and always.
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    Originally Posted by tadpole25 View Post
    I should rephrase this question, Assuming someone eat high protein and lifts, and the only variable is the amount of calories from carbs/fat that are consumed.

    Would it be better to lose 2 lbs a week to get the weight off as fast as possible so you can start bulking sooner? Or would losing 1 lb a week be better for preserving muscle?

    Would taking double as much time to lose the weight be worth the amount of extra muscle you'd gain from losing weight more slowly.
    I think it's a sliding scale

    Your largest calorie deficit without significant muscle loss is determined by how much bodyfat you carry - a deficit of about 33 calories per day for each 1lb of body fat

    The largest sensible mass gain surplus is probably around 2-300 calories. Again, nature doesn't deal in hard cutoffs, you might gain more muscle above this point but at the expense of much faster fat gain. This limit is probably a bit lower for people with more bodyfat, they don't need as big a surplus.

    What goes on between those two points is probably more or less a straight line, at least I would be fairly confident of that - once you've taken individual variability into account it's pointless trying to refine the concept any further.
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    Originally Posted by tadpole25 View Post
    I should rephrase this question, Assuming someone eat high protein and lifts, and the only variable is the amount of calories from carbs/fat that are consumed.

    Would it be better to lose 2 lbs a week to get the weight off as fast as possible so you can start bulking sooner? Or would losing 1 lb a week be better for preserving muscle?

    Would taking double as much time to lose the weight be worth the amount of extra muscle you'd gain from losing weight more slowly.
    a 1,000 cal daily deficit is not optimum for muscle preservation however if you're very overweight it's the preferred avenue
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