I'm in disbelief that UK hasn't got amicable Gun laws

[buwbs]

It's like the powers that be made dam well sure that obtaining a firearms is nigh on impossible in the UK

Freedom ?

Free Will ?

or born to obey & suffer

[nickh04]

cuck

[Barteh]

It's a different culture in Europe. If you had a public vote for guns 90% of citizens would probably vote no.

[Antoine99]

Is that the country where you can barely attack someone breaking into your home?

[buwbs]

It's a different culture in Europe. If you had a public vote for guns 90% of citizens would probably vote no.

I am not a free human entity living in the United Kingdom without such practices being open to participation

[ShakeBrah]

V for Vendetta

[buwbs]

It's a different culture in Europe. If you had a public vote for guns 90% of citizens would probably vote no.

Most if not all are NPC controlled, if any hindrance where indeed caused the only people to blame would be the system programmers much like 9/11 etc

these events are orchestrated by the powers that be we mear mortal humans have no say whatsoever in these matters

[DrugsToGetBig]

you cant own any firearms in the UK? not even a shotgun or hunting rifle?

[buwbs]

you cant own any firearms in the UK? not even a shotgun or hunting rifle?

only Michael jordan could jump the hoops that UK Law require to obtain as much as a air soft rifle

[jimbob007]

It's like the powers that be made dam well sure that obtaining a firearms is nigh on impossible in the UK

Freedom ?

Free Will ?

or born to obey & suffer

Yes, we learned from Hungerford & Dunblane & changed the laws & have amended/looked at them with the rare incidents the last 25 years. Basically we like the rest of Europe looked at the total s***show of the US gun obsession/fetish & didn't want a bar of it. We have no need for guns-there is no hunting culture with the public here & for most people the only guns they have ever seen is in the movies, the news or CrimeWatch reconstructions.

I have encountered one gun in 46 years-an old World War 2 relic-Bren I believe, while helping my dad & aunt to clean out a house in the late 1980's-about a year after Hungerford & when my mum saw it when we got back she hit the roof & told him she wanted it out of the house ASAP. He sold it rapidly to a collector.

[buwbs]

Yes, we learned from Hungerford & Dunblane & changed the laws & have amended/looked at them with the rare incidents the last 25 years. Basically we like the rest of Europe looked at the total s***show of the US gun obsession/fetish & didn't want a bar of it. We have no need for guns-there is no hunting culture with the public here & for most people the only guns they have ever seen is in the movies, the news or CrimeWatch reconstructions.

I have encountered one gun in 46 years-an old World War 2 relic-Bren I believe, while helping my dad & aunt to clean out a house in the late 1980's-about a year after Hungerford & when my mum saw it when we got back she hit the roof & told him she wanted it out of the house ASAP. He sold it rapidly to a collector.

multi-billion pound industry discarded because of a few isolated incidents that most probably where orchestrated as a deterrent

Bullchit we all know these events are highly controlled demolition

nobody gives a flying fk about Ukrainian people dieing or else where

Criminals in UK still have access to such equipment

I can't even go to a dedicated club to shoot an ar15 under strict supervision

[DuracellBunny]

you cant own any firearms in the UK? not even a shotgun or hunting rifle?

Shotguns are relatively easy to get a license for and hunting rifles not much harder. A pistol on the other hand? Not so easy.

~ 1 1/2M shotguns and 1/2M other guns were legally held last time I looked.

We had a rifle range at university, and they competed against other university teams with .22s

It's more a cultural thing. Growing up, I didn't know anybody that owned a gun; not even the drug dealer across the street. Now that I live in a more rural area, I know a bunch of people who own shotguns.

[jimbob007]

you cant own any firearms in the UK? not even a shotgun or hunting rifle?

You can own some, but there are very strict laws & regulations about who can have them.

The UK banned handguns in 1997, but citizens are still able to own and shoot some shotguns and rifles with a license. Shotguns and rifles may be licensed by applying for a certificate through the local police force, according to the government's guide on gun-licensing law. The local authority will carry out a series of checks — including interviews, criminal-records checks, and a visit to the person's property — before granting permission.

For firearms other than a shotgun, applicants must give police a "good reason" for wanting to own one. Hunting or being a member of a shooting club, for example, might be seen as good reasons. Self-defence won't be considered a valid reason. Semiautomatic firearms — guns that will keep firing one round every time you pull the trigger — are legal as long as the size of the cartridge they are designed to fire are no bigger than .22 inches in diameter.

Shotguns are legal at long as they can't hold more than three shotgun shells – including the one in the chamber if it's a pump-action or semiautomatic shotgun. There's no such restriction for rifles.

The reality is most people don't want them & we don't need them-there is no gun culture here & never has been. Farmers will probably have a shotgun for defending their herd from predators, or putting animals down that the vet cannot save. Some people might want to go to a shooting range-but it is really isn't a huge percentage of the population. Your chances of ever encountering a gun in your lifetime here is pretty much zero. Higher in some ghetto areas of London, Birmingham & Nottinghamshire probably.

[jimbob007]

multi-billion pound industry discarded because of a few isolated incidents that most probably where orchestrated as a deterrent

Bullchit we all know these events are highly controlled demolition

nobody gives a flying fk about Ukrainian people dieing or else where

Criminals in UK still have access to such equipment

I can't even go to a dedicated club to shoot an ar15 under strict supervision

There just isn't the interest in the UK-most people here hate guns & hope they never encounter one in their life.

[buwbs]

Shotguns are relatively easy to get a license for and hunting rifles not much harder. A pistol on the other hand? Not so easy.

~ 1 1/2M shotguns and 1/2M other guns were legally held last time I looked.

We had a rifle range at university, and they competed against other university teams with .22s

It's more a cultural thing. Growing up, I didn't know anybody that owned a gun; not even the drug dealer across the street. Now that I live in a more rural area, I know a bunch of people who own shotguns.

Its more a systematic forced cultural thing u have no choice on something so trivial, yet you yearn for freedom

[buwbs]

There just isn't the interest in the UK-most people here hate guns & hope they never encounter one in their life.

Are you speaking on behalf of 80million citizens?

[jimbob007]

Is that the country where you can barely attack someone breaking into your home?

You can kill a person here in self defence in your home. Many have, what you cannot do is if they have fled then chase them down & attack them with knives, cricket bats, run them over etc.

[jimbob007]

Are you speaking on behalf of 80million citizens?

It is perfectly clear by the number of people applying for gun licences-it is a tiny fraction of the population. The public got fox hunting banned for being cruel. When a major shooting incident happens here people do not just shrug their shoulders as if it is normal & move on after a day until the next one happens a couple of days later, it is a major story for weeks, the media & the public are calling for the law to be looked at again etc.

Knives are a major concern for the public here, let alone adding guns to the mix. There has been a very uneasy relationship with them probably going back to the Sidney Street Siege.

[Antoine99]

It is perfectly clear by the number of people applying for gun licences-it is a tiny fraction of the population. The public got fox hunting banned for being cruel. When a major shooting incident happens here people do not just shrug their shoulders as if it is normal & move on after a day until the next one happens a couple of days later, it is a major story for weeks, the media & the public are calling for the law to be looked at again etc.

Yeah people here in the U.S. generally don't pass meaningless measures based on emotion that either don't do anything at all or make things worse.

[jimbob007]

Its more a systematic forced cultural thing u have no choice on something so trivial, yet you yearn for freedom

We choose not to have mass shootings every week & 40 shootings a day.

[Antoine99]

We choose not to have mass shootings every week & 40 shootings a day.

Mass shootings are basically irrelevant



Also brb, being a woman/elderly/weaker person in the UK and not allowed to defend myself against the average attacker/rapist

brb just call the police if you're being raped
brb just learn to fight someone twice your size
brb, but won't brb because I was raped and killed

[jimbob007]

Yeah people here in the U.S. generally don't pass meaningless measures based on emotion that either don't do anything at all or make things worse.

And look at the results of doing nothing & learning nothing-total insanity. Things have been made infinitely better here by controlling guns.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours

[Barteh]

Yeah people here in the U.S. generally don't pass meaningless measures based on emotion that either don't do anything at all or make things worse.

The European problem is more of an immigration problem than a gun problem.

[buwbs]

And look at the results of doing nothing & learning nothing-total insanity. Things have been made infinitely better here by controlling guns.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours

Gun violence is down

Knife violence is up

the equipment is not the problem

[jimbob007]

Mass shootings are basically irrelevant



Also brb, being a woman/elderly/weaker person in the UK and not allowed to defend myself against the average attacker/rapist

Well, would you want rapists walking around with guns? We don't. The only reason Americans are scared & have guns is aside from the gun fetish that starts at childhood from the parents is because everybody, no matter if they are mentally unstable, or even on a terrorist watchlist can purchase them. That kid a while back wasn't even old enough to buy booze legally, yet he can buy high capacity rifles & go shoot up a school.

[buwbs]

We choose not to have mass shootings every week & 40 shootings a day.

Instead we have stratosphere levels of knife crime

criminals can't just quietly fire guns in the public domain without making a scene in the dense areas of UK

Knife crime can & does go undetected

[jimbob007]

Gun violence is down

Knife violence is up

the equipment is not the problem

I quite agree-the mindset, the belief that having a gun/guns is a birthright & US fetishisation of guns is the problem. Other countries like Switzerland have very high gun ownership rates, but not the same problem. Because they are taught they have to earn the right to own one & treat it with respect. The mindset is totally different.

[Antoine99]

Instead we have stratosphere levels of knife crime

All they care about is reducing gun violence, if it raises other types of violence it doesn't matter lol

[stupid000]

Yes, we learned from Hungerford & Dunblane & changed the laws & have amended/looked at them with the rare incidents the last 25 years. Basically we like the rest of Europe looked at the total s***show of the US gun obsession/fetish & didn't want a bar of it. We have no need for guns-there is no hunting culture with the public here & for most people the only guns they have ever seen is in the movies, the news or CrimeWatch reconstructions.

I have encountered one gun in 46 years-an old World War 2 relic-Bren I believe, while helping my dad & aunt to clean out a house in the late 1980's-about a year after Hungerford & when my mum saw it when we got back she hit the roof & told him she wanted it out of the house ASAP. He sold it rapidly to a collector.

You're such a ****ggot your mom too, negs off recharge. Want a butthole pic ****ggot?

[seanb1979]

I quite agree-the mindset, the belief that having a gun/guns is a birthright & US fetishisation of guns is the problem. Other countries like Switzerland have very high gun ownership rates, but not the same problem. Because they are taught they have to earn the right to own one & treat it with respect. The mindset is totally different.

The 'dumb rednecks' you like to criticize are typically the ones who do treat guns with respect. Who do you think is committing most of the gun crime?