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    Originally Posted by scamander View Post
    I wonder whether we should consider the notion of gun culture here? Currently in the UK we don't have a familiarity with guns, they are outliers and not part of our cultural landscape.

    If people start owning them in a large capacity then guns become a normalised aspect of daily life. Criminals (more the lower end of the spectrum) decide that where a knife would be adequate now the minimum weapon needed is a gun.

    Serious crime often involves guns (often against other gangs etc). Lower level stuff is knives. I would strongly suspect that the shootings would occur when you have wannabees in low level crime using guns (when confronted or cornered). A dust up between dealers which would have been knife-waving now features someone who decides that they need to step up. Cue shootings.

    At the moment we don't have a gun requirement because there isn't a need to defend ourselves against low level criminals (who aren't using guns a great deal), there isn't a cultural link (i.e. a constitution where it is stated) and we don't see them as required to defend our freedoms (again, politically there isn't a link between keeping a govt in check through being armed).

    Just to clarify I'm not stating support or rejection for gun ownership, instead I'm trying to establish why there may not be a drive for it in the UK.

    Criminals would have restricted access
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    Originally Posted by buwbs View Post
    Criminals would have restricted access
    when you restrict access to US criminals..

    arent you breaking the second amendment?

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    Originally Posted by samsbolton View Post
    when you restrict access to US criminals..

    arent you breaking the second amendment?

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    He is a Brit & he is trolling-rather brilliantly I may add.
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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    He is a Brit & he is trolling-rather brilliantly I may add.
    Tbh i'm not a trolling, however i believe the UK society is awfully restricted, you fight the corner that guns instantly mean mass shootings but thats not true look at Switzerland

    I want britain to be great again believe it or not guns would make it safer thus better

    I grew up in a very undesirable place, i just know.

    Uk society is going to get worse they know this that's why the new institutions have been built

    Look at the rich poor divide in other countries

    we've just witnessed a massive change in wealth, it's coming
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    Gun ownership only works if you have a high quality population. As soon as you have thugs, gansgters etc. it doesn't make sense.

    That is why switzerland has high gun ownershio with no problems, but the US has mass shooting and individual shoottings ona regular basis.
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    Originally Posted by DuracellBunny View Post
    Switzerland also has lots of rules that they all actually obey too.

    Live in an apartment block and are given specific days of the week on which you can do your laundry.

    Cannot park within x distance of a building so that your exhaust doesn't stain the building.

    Etc

    Etc

    The Swiss population do as they are told, so them possessing guns isn't particularly dangerous. All you have to do is tell them not to shoot each other and they don't shoot each other.
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    Originally Posted by PimpinisEasy View Post
    Gun ownership only works if you have a high quality population. As soon as you have thugs, gansgters etc. it doesn't make sense.

    That is why switzerland has high gun ownershio with no problems, but the US has mass shooting and individual shoottings ona regular basis.

    America is fked because at one time the gun laws were to easy

    Uk wouldn't have this problem
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    Uk has what i can only describe as a bully culture

    Criminals know the honest citizen cannot do anything to stop them

    The criminals know this if the criminal knew the citizen could be carrying protection the level of respect instantly becomes even
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    I want UK gun laws to be easier for citizens to obtain.
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    If USA banned guns general crime would skyrocket

    If UK installed guns violent crime would decrease

    In USA isolated mass occurances are rare to say the least

    In UK knife crime is escalatiing with no end in sight
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    I want this to happen also but I don't think it will

    Thats why I've given up on the UK srs and am currently living overseas

    Would own many guns though if it became legal and would happily shoot some chavs with a .44 if they tried to shank me
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    how many homicides are from a legal firearm in America...zero to 1%?

    how many from illegally gained weapons... 99% ?
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    Originally Posted by buwbs View Post
    America is fked because at one time the gun laws were to easy

    Uk wouldn't have this problem
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    Uk has what i can only describe as a bully culture

    Criminals know the honest citizen cannot do anything to stop them

    The criminals know this if the criminal knew the citizen could be carrying protection the level of respect instantly becomes even
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    I want UK gun laws to be easier for citizens to obtain.
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    cliffs -

    If USA banned guns general crime would skyrocket

    If UK installed guns violent crime would decrease

    In USA isolated mass occurances are rare to say the least

    In UK knife crime is escalatiing with no end in sight
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    how many homicides are from a legal firearm in America...zero to 1%?

    how many from illegally gained weapons... 99% ?
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