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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Don't you think they owe it to the American people to see the affidavit? This is a matter of national security. We need to know the basis of this search.
    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    That’s incorrect. The warrant will be based on the crime and the evidence needed to convict for that crime.

    A subpoena would have been the more appropriate route, which they had already
    done, and discussions were already being had on the documents. A subpoena is discovery but no crime. This is why the Dems pushed for a subpoena of Hillary’s emails and not a warrant. Had their been a warrant and she deleted them, they wouldn’t have had a choice but to convict for destruction of criminal evidence. This is just more proof of a lack of rule of law.
    Originally Posted by TallTigerTwo View Post
    Not saying there was a mole, but IF there was and this info was in the affidavit, they’d probably screech that they can’t reveal ‘sources and methods’ like they always do. Same thing they did with the whistleblowers. These ‘sources and methods’ will remain anonymous and will be able to operate in the shadows free from scrutiny. They basically can pull this out of their ass at any time as an excuse to rough Trump up and generally make life miserable. What was it that Schumer said? Something along the lines of these agencies can get back at you a hundred different ways.
    Originally Posted by DuracellBunny View Post
    That's assuming you want to build a case.

    If you want something that will let you go through the entire property and take anything you like, you make it as vague as fk.

    A judge normally makes the warrant just wide enough for what the law needs and nothing more, so that it doesn't get thrown out at trial. The LEO makes it as vague as the judge will allow (which isn't normally very vague).

    This isn't about getting a conviction, so they don't have to worry about it getting thrown out at trial. This is about politics.


    Counterpoint to this conspiratorial bilge: The search warrant is not going to confirm/deny the nuclear document allegations today.


    Search warrants are drawn up with the implicit concession that they will be made publicly available at some stage. It won't give specifics because of how sensitive the material is, but it may give an indication towards the degree of classification.


    Trump and his lawyers know this, his cultists likely don't, but both are obfuscating the truth with their "planted evidence" conspiracies. Trump doesn't really have a great move available to him here, just the one with the least fallout. Perhaps not opposing the release of the warrant is his best move.
    Back off, Warchild.

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    Who wants to bet at the last minute tomorrow trump posts "I really wanted them to release the warrant but my lawyers are making me contest it, but there's nothing to see there, it's the cleanest warrant. Some people are saying it's the cleanest warrant they've ever seen."
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    isnt this an extension of general milley telling China hes disabled the nuclear codes because Trump is gonna nuke China?

    Didnt Killary sell plutonium/nuclear parts to a competitor?

    fuk lmao
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    Lol @ the lie.

    Evil dRumph stole the nuke codes. They sign the warrant without even telling Biden that dRumph has the nuke codes at his house.

    Kids lie better than this.
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    Originally Posted by HurfDurf View Post
    Who wants to bet at the last minute tomorrow trump posts "I really wanted them to release the warrant but my lawyers are making me contest it, but there's nothing to see there, it's the cleanest warrant. Some people are saying it's the cleanest warrant they've ever seen."
    For him the dirtier the warrant- with most egregious possible potential violations allegations - the better

    Will make him look more like a victim of crazy witch hunt
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    Originally Posted by Barteh View Post
    Just these pieces of information invalidate the entire search/raid. They should have filmed it live at the minimum and searched through the stuff right there to make it even remotely legit.
    Why would you film sifting through potentially highly classified documents? The point is having as little trace of them as possible.

    brb making hours of tape with classified information visible in an effort to retrieve classified information so no one can see it
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    That's the point. This information is so sensitive they can't openly film it or discuss it.


    Trump, though, could have a copy of the warrant on Fox News within the hour if he wanted to. He's got his own copy. What a liar.

    If it were released though, it will necessarily have to be redacted and non-specific. It can't include specific evidence on matters of national security. If he tries to block it, though, it will only compound the illusion of guilt.
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    That's the point. This information is so sensitive they can't openly film it or discuss it.


    Trump, though, could have a copy of the warrant on Fox News within the hour if he wanted to. He's got his own copy. What a liar.

    If it were released though, it will necessarily have to be redacted and non-specific. It can't include specific evidence on matters of national security. If he tries to block it, though, it will only compound the illusion of guilt.
    It is a smart move though. He's banking on retards who can't understand that classified info needs to stay classified, regardless if an orange retard stole it or not.

    This guy might have committed high treason and he's got his fan club frothing at the mouth because there's an actual effort to finally keep these docs away from unauthorized people. It really is some sort of cult.

    I doubt he did anything with the docs though, the biggest possibility is that he did this in order to get this platform at some point in time. Play the victim card. For a guy who has stans pretending to be sigma males he sure does a lot of beta things.
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    That's the point. This information is so sensitive they can't openly film it or discuss it.


    Trump, though, could have a copy of the warrant on Fox News within the hour if he wanted to. He's got his own copy. What a liar.

    If it were released though, it will necessarily have to be redacted and non-specific. It can't include specific evidence on matters of national security. If he tries to block it, though, it will only compound the illusion of guilt.


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    Originally Posted by aal04 View Post
    isnt this an extension of general milley telling China hes disabled the nuclear codes because Trump is gonna nuke China?

    Didnt Killary sell plutonium/nuclear parts to a competitor?

    fuk lmao
    If she did why didn't Trump investigate her? He was President for 4 years.
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    Originally Posted by Midgetkiller View Post
    It is a smart move though. He's banking on retards who can't understand that classified info needs to stay classified, regardless if an orange retard stole it or not.

    This guy might have committed high treason and he's got his fan club frothing at the mouth because there's an actual effort to finally keep these docs away from unauthorized people. It really is some sort of cult.

    I doubt he did anything with the docs though, the biggest possibility is that he did this in order to get this platform at some point in time. Play the victim card. For a guy who has stans pretending to be sigma males he sure does a lot of beta things.
    He did nothing illegal if he did it while President. The President can declassify anything for any reason. The President could reveal of our nation's secrets on Twitter and it would all be perfectly legal.

    During Trump's Presidency I even said Trump should get in the Beast and go straight to the FBI headquarters and start publicly declassifying everything he could about the FBI's dirt.
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    I wonder how many different countries bought classified information from Trump.
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    Originally Posted by BunkerBoy View Post
    I wonder how many different countries bought classified information from Trump.

    You're thinking about Hillary and her private server which had SAP ultra top secret classified material which she sold to any and every foreign country that paid up...




    But its ADORABLE how the left projects their crimes onto the right so much.
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    Can confirm, I was FBI agent going through melainas pantie drawer
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    You're thinking about Hillary and her private server which had SAP ultra top secret classified material which she sold to any and every foreign country that paid up...




    But its ADORABLE how the left projects their crimes onto the right so much.
    You still believe in that Q bull****, opinion on anything is invalid.

    When's the MOAB coming? When's trump getting reinstalled? LMAO u silly goose
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    He did nothing illegal if he did it while President. The President can declassify anything for any reason. The President could reveal of our nation's secrets on Twitter and it would all be perfectly legal.

    During Trump's Presidency I even said Trump should get in the Beast and go straight to the FBI headquarters and start publicly declassifying everything he could about the FBI's dirt.
    The problem with that :

    1. Why wouldn't he already have said he declassified it?
    2. Isn't there a deliberate action that a president would have to do to declassify specific documents? Surely just taking them isn't enough? And a formal request or action would have made clear that he did declassify em and that there was no reason to go after the documents anymore. And without any procedural actions to track, how can he prove that he declassified them during his tenure?
    3. Why does he need physical copies at home?

    It's a strange stroy but I'd be surprised if Trump actually did something very illegal. It looks like a calculated move, the way this is being played.
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    Originally Posted by Midgetkiller View Post
    The problem with that :

    1. Why wouldn't he already have said he declassified it?
    2. Isn't there a deliberate action that a president would have to do to declassify specific documents? Surely just taking them isn't enough? And a formal request or action would have made clear that he did declassify em and that there was no reason to go after the documents anymore. And without any procedural actions to track, how can he prove that he declassified them during his tenure?
    3. Why does he need physical copies at home?

    It's a strange stroy but I'd be surprised if Trump actually did something very illegal. It looks like a calculated move, the way this is being played.
    Regarding #2, everyone seems to think there's some process. The process is called winning the presidency. Trump can declassify at will based on his position and authority.
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    Regarding #2, everyone seems to think there's some process. The process is called winning the presidency. Trump can declassify at will based on his position and authority.
    Yeah and you'd need to be able to prove that you declassified it during your presidency.

    Your claim also isn't based on more than just wishful thinking. I'm literally asking if anyone knows the proper procedure. Just some broscience isn't cutting it here. Would you actually be okay with just any president being able to spread classified information any time and at will? That's absolutely insane.
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    Regarding #2, everyone seems to think there's some process. The process is called winning the presidency. Trump can declassify at will based on his position and authority.
    There is a process. The president just cannot proclaim something declassified. Especially after the fact. The document in question goes through a review so that sensitive information can be redacted, etc. This is why you often see declassified documents with certain things blacked out. You wouldn’t want to compromise current operations, etc. Then, the document is recorded for public record with the National archives. I doubt Trump did this. Especially with information regarding nuclear weapons.
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    You're thinking about Hillary and her private server which had SAP ultra top secret classified material which she sold to any and every foreign country that paid up...




    But its ADORABLE how the left projects their crimes onto the right so much.


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    Originally Posted by Midgetkiller View Post
    Yeah and you'd need to be able to prove that you declassified it during your presidency.

    Your claim also isn't based on more than just wishful thinking. I'm literally asking if anyone knows the proper procedure. Just some broscience isn't cutting it here. Would you actually be okay with just any president being able to spread classified information any time and at will? That's absolutely insane.
    Originally Posted by LongDongSilver9 View Post
    There is a process. The president just cannot proclaim something declassified. Especially after the fact. The document in question goes through a review so that sensitive information can be redacted, etc. This is why you often see declassified documents with certain things blacked out. You wouldn’t want to compromise current operations, etc. Then, the document is recorded for public record with the National archives. I doubt Trump did this. Especially with information regarding nuclear weapons.

    For starters, it's weird to have physical documents. For information of this sensitive magnitude, it's shared via digital devices at the WH. The very possession of physical documents is very sus.



    Ordinarily, as I understand it, The President can transcend the usual process of classificiation (usually done via executive order) and perhaps he didn't mishandle classified information because, he can't. This won't apply to material concerning nuclear secrets, which is done through something called the Atomic Energy Act. He can't declassify that and if it's taken off site it doesn't matter who he is; he's in deep poo-poo.


    It's the one type of information in his possession he absolutely cannot have. It's the most extreme end of the spectrum of mishandling classified information illegality. It's the most valuable and dangerous information that exists. Tinfoil hat time= He could even have planning to sell it to the Saudis or Putin.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Has Hitler J Drumpf been arrested yet?

    Has Biden’s election been decertified yet, phagg0t? How’s the Maricopa audit coming along, Snizzy? Are the Ninjas still trying to find bamboo in the ballots?
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    Originally Posted by Midgetkiller View Post
    Yeah and you'd need to be able to prove that you declassified it during your presidency.

    Your claim also isn't based on more than just wishful thinking. I'm literally asking if anyone knows the proper procedure. Just some broscience isn't cutting it here. Would you actually be okay with just any president being able to spread classified information any time and at will? That's absolutely insane.
    Then prove it. Brb he was so mad that he lost that the day after he was president he went back and grabbed his Kim Jung Un letters and brought them to Florida. Lol.

    Originally Posted by LongDongSilver9 View Post
    There is a process. The president just cannot proclaim something declassified. Especially after the fact. The document in question goes through a review so that sensitive information can be redacted, etc. This is why you often see declassified documents with certain things blacked out. You wouldn’t want to compromise current operations, etc. Then, the document is recorded for public record with the National archives. I doubt Trump did this. Especially with information regarding nuclear weapons.
    And how do we know it's after the fact?
    And why redact? To protect information from the absolute highest authority? LMAO.

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    Originally Posted by Midgetkiller View Post
    Imagine any other president doing this and the reactions that would generate from the people who are currently pretending this is normal.
    We had our own fit with Hillary, also Sandy Berger was an interesting ride. Democrats seem to be well versed on document theft/mishandling.
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    Originally Posted by Phil68 View Post
    Has Biden’s election been decertified yet, phagg0t? How’s the Maricopa audit coming along, Snizzy? Are the Ninjas still trying to find bamboo in the ballots?
    Why are you always so angry Ari? Talk to us. Maybe we can help.
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