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    Originally Posted by Jbizzlechizzle View Post
    I would never dispute January 6 and it was awful. You have to also discern all sources. PBS is so far liberal, they have lost credibility. IMO, the testimonies of the Jan 6 guys who blame Trump for all of their actions, is convenient because they are trying to save their asses. Are they all really admitting how stupid they are because they can't think for themselves? They organized going to the Capitol to protest and then made the decision to storm the Capitol on their own. They are not robots. They are not taking responsibility and they are playing to the committee. I am not saying Trump is innocent. He is not. But, the committee is one sided and one sided only.

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    I am not a Republican, I am not a MAGA and not planning on voting for Trump.

    Here are actual threats from the democratic party and progressives.

    Schumer inciting violence against the Supreme Court, by name. The only people higher in the democratic party are Pelosi and Biden.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu-7L5W6Rew

    After the backlash and attempt on Kavanaugh’s life, Schumer walked it back.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68gkNI5T1vU

    Maxine Waters inciting violence against anyone in the Republican party.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw

    The Defund the Police movement in and of itself incites violence and crime and is all progressive democrats which promotes violence and crime, especially in dem-run cities across the nation, i.e. LA, San Francisco, Seattle, New York City, Baltimore, DC, Chicago to name just a few. With that many cities and more, odds are the Defund the Police movement is a horrific policy.

    Here is an example of how the democratic party itself and the left media intentionally misleads the public with false projections, knowing there is no truth in it.: Sen. Tim Kaine Lays Out Importance Of Nuclear Docs FBI Reportedly Sought In Mar-A-Lago

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-k...b045e6f6acf1e0

    But, since the media is an arm of the democratic party, everything is just fine.

    I am not bashing democrats. This is all true and not even exaggerated.

    I hated January 6 and it was not good. I am just trying to be fair and truthful and I know most of you are good and truthful, but we are also game for mature debate.
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    Here are threats that I recall made by Chuck Shoemaker-

    “We got 60 ways to get him” this was to Trump right when he got elected.

    Here is one he made to Kavinall (no time to check spelling, so fuk off Pockets).
    “You have unleashed the wirlwind”

    Biden has threatened revolution.

    It goes on and on.

    The left are not innocent in stirring up violence.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    I would never dispute January 6 and it was awful. You have to also discern all sources. PBS is so far liberal, they have lost credibility. IMO, the testimonies of the Jan 6 guys who blame Trump for all of their actions, is convenient because they are trying to save their asses. Are they all really admitting how stupid they are because they can't think for themselves? They organized going to the Capitol to protest and then made the decision to storm the Capitol on their own. They are not robots. They are not taking responsibility and they are playing to the committee. I am not saying Trump is innocent. He is not. But, the committee is one sided and one sided only.

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    I am not a Republican, I am not a MAGA and not planning on voting for Trump.

    Here are actual threats from the democratic party and progressives.

    Schumer inciting violence against the Supreme Court, by name. The only people higher in the democratic party are Pelosi and Biden.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu-7L5W6Rew

    After the backlash and attempt on Kavanaugh’s life, Schumer walked it back.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68gkNI5T1vU

    Maxine Waters inciting violence against anyone in the Republican party.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw

    The Defund the Police movement in and of itself incites violence and crime and is all progressive democrats which promotes violence and crime, especially in dem-run cities across the nation, i.e. LA, San Francisco, Seattle, New York City, Baltimore, DC, Chicago to name just a few. With that many cities and more, odds are the Defund the Police movement is a horrific policy.

    Here is an example of how the democratic party itself and the left media intentionally misleads the public with false projections, knowing there is no truth in it.: Sen. Tim Kaine Lays Out Importance Of Nuclear Docs FBI Reportedly Sought In Mar-A-Lago

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-k...b045e6f6acf1e0

    But, since the media is an arm of the democratic party, everything is just fine.

    I am not bashing democrats. This is all true and not even exaggerated.

    I hated January 6 and it was not good. I am just trying to be fair and truthful and I know most of you are good and truthful, but we are also game for mature debate.
    I'm fairly certain Mr. Schumer was referring to a whirlwind of voters who will make Repulicons pay at the polls, but ok, it's a call for violence if you say so. Democrats didn't do 1/6. Also, leave women's reproductive rights decisions up to them and their doctors. Has Trump ever walked back anything he has said that could be seen as inciting violence?

    RE: Maxine Waters, c'mon man really? Is that a call for violence? You must do better. I reiterate, Democrats didn't do 1/6. Also, leave women's reproductive rights decisions up to them and their doctors.

    RE: Defund the police, I get it, it's poor messaging. Whoever came up with that slogan didn't think it through very well and I cringe every time I hear it. However, we have crime, police, and justice problems in this country. It all needs to be addressed. If doing a better job training our police is what is needed to help them "protect and serve," or putting a mental health professional in every police car will help, I'm here for it. I'm a sensible person and open to ideas. Also, let's not act like violence is a blue city/state problem like right-wing media wants you to believe. Let's just blame it on where black people live seems to be their motto! But in reality: https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...lence-by-state

    Gun Violence by State
    Based on the number of gun deaths per capita in 2019 alone, states with the most gun violence are:

    Alaska - 24.4
    Mississippi - 24.2
    Wyoming - 22.3
    New Mexico 22.3
    Alabama - 22.2
    Louisiana - 22.1
    Missouri - 20.6
    South Carolina - 19.9
    Arkansas - 19.3
    Montana - 19.3

    RE: The Huffpost article, how do we know there is no truth to it? All we know is that the FBI raided Trumps home because an insider, close to him, told the authorities that there were still files there that should've been turned over. Trump could've turned in all the documents he took and this would be a non-story. We'll all see how it plays out in the end.

    Also, I 100% disagree that the media is an outlet of the Democratic Party. The media is full of propaganda that is pushed by the corporations that own them - to serve their own interests. How about we bring media literacy into our schools instead of burning books?
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    Originally Posted by Jbizzlechizzle View Post
    I'm fairly certain Mr. Schumer was referring to a whirlwind of voters who will make Repulicons pay at the polls, but ok, it's a call for violence if you say so. Democrats didn't do 1/6. Also, leave women's reproductive rights decisions up to them and their doctors. Has Trump ever walked back anything he has said that could be seen as inciting violence?

    RE: Maxine Waters, c'mon man really? Is that a call for violence? You must do better. I reiterate, Democrats didn't do 1/6. Also, leave women's reproductive rights decisions up to them and their doctors.

    RE: Defund the police, I get it, it's poor messaging. Whoever came up with that slogan didn't think it through very well and I cringe every time I hear it. However, we have crime, police, and justice problems in this country. It all needs to be addressed. If doing a better job training our police is what is needed to help them "protect and serve," or putting a mental health professional in every police car will help, I'm here for it. I'm a sensible person and open to ideas. Also, let's not act like violence is a blue city/state problem like right-wing media wants you to believe. Let's just blame it on where black people live seems to be their motto! But in reality: https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...lence-by-state

    Gun Violence by State
    Based on the number of gun deaths per capita in 2019 alone, states with the most gun violence are:

    Alaska - 24.4
    Mississippi - 24.2
    Wyoming - 22.3
    New Mexico 22.3
    Alabama - 22.2
    Louisiana - 22.1
    Missouri - 20.6
    South Carolina - 19.9
    Arkansas - 19.3
    Montana - 19.3

    RE: The Huffpost article, how do we know there is no truth to it? All we know is that the FBI raided Trumps home because an insider, close to him, told the authorities that there were still files there that should've been turned over. Trump could've turned in all the documents he took and this would be a non-story. We'll all see how it plays out in the end.

    Also, I 100% disagree that the media is an outlet of the Democratic Party. The media is full of propaganda that is pushed by the corporations that own them - to serve their own interests. How about we bring media literacy into our schools instead of burning books?


    Comm’on man stop defending democrats.

    Whirlwind of voters = same as Trimp saying go fight, yada yada.

    There was a handful of bad guys doing bad things Jan 6th there were some democrats starting trouble too.

    Trump threaten to punch someone = Biden also threaten that not to debate Trump but beat him up behind the gym.

    Robert DeNiro “I wanna punch his face in”.

    Please stop defending Democrats.

    Btw Maxine is a damn cheat just like Trump.

    Quit taking sides.......
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    Pockets, just wanted to say, have a blessed weekend, the lord be with you..........

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    Pockets, just wanted to say, have a blessed weekend, the lord be with you..........

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    I'm sure Fox News will come to his rescue with some excuses...

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    FYI - FOX News doesn't cover Trump like they used to. They had some kind of outs with him a while ago.

    Some people don't like FOX because it doesn't follow the rank and file of 99% of the other "news" outlets. The hate to hear something different.

    I personally watch Bloomberg, CNBC and FOX Business for economic news and market updates.

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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Comm’on man stop defending democrats.

    Whirlwind of voters = same as Trimp saying go fight, yada yada.

    There was a handful of bad guys doing bad things Jan 6th there were some democrats starting trouble too.

    Trump threaten to punch someone = Biden also threaten that not to debate Trump but beat him up behind the gym.

    Robert DeNiro “I wanna punch his face in”.

    Please stop defending Democrats.

    Btw Maxine is a damn cheat just like Trump.

    Quit taking sides.......
    I'm not taking sides, I'm using common sense and logic. There's clearly one side that wants to be way more violent than the other and we've all witnessed it first hand whether you decide to believe it or not. The repu

    I'm not a fan of any political party, but I do have critical thinking skills that many around here are obviously lacking.
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    Originally Posted by Jbizzlechizzle View Post
    I'm not taking sides, I'm using common sense and logic. There's clearly one side that wants to be way more violent than the other and we've all witnessed it first hand whether you decide to believe it or not. The repu

    I'm not a fan of any political party, but I do have critical thinking skills that many around here are obviously lacking.
    I enjoy the conversations, as always. I challenge and I expect to be challenged, but we're cool

    All due respect, because someone doesn't agree with everything you believe that they are lacking intelligence?

    Are you insinuating that the January 6 idiots represent the Republican party? They do not in any way.

    Even though those extremists made a big splash, the likelihood of you ever meeting one is as good as meeting a leftist extremist. I have never met an extremist on either side.

    Yes, I intentionally included that video of Maxine Waters because she did incite violence. You disagreed because she is a woman? What make her incendiary remarks less powerful than any man's words?

    So, I am making it public that I lack critical thinking skills.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    I enjoy the conversations, as always. I challenge and I expect to be challenged, but we're cool

    All due respect, because someone doesn't agree with everything you believe that they are lacking intelligence?

    Are you insinuating that the January 6 idiots represent the Republican party? They do not in any way.

    Even though those extremists made a big splash, the likelihood of you ever meeting one is as good as meeting a leftist extremist. I have never met an extremist on either side.

    Yes, I intentionally included that video of Maxine Waters because she did incite violence. You disagreed because she is a woman? What make her incendiary remarks less powerful than any man's words?

    So, I am making it public that I lack critical thinking skills.

    And all the Republican senators and reps that defend Jan 6th represent??
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    And all the Republican senators and reps that defend Jan 6th represent??
    There are Republican senators that support Jan 6?
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    There are Republican senators that support Jan 6?
    Yes, the entire Senate are basically in the Trump cult because they're too scared to call Trump on his BS because of his influence over the base of the party.

    Why are there only 2 republicans on the 1/6 committee and why are you so vehemently defending the party that clearly is still enabling this clown called Trump?
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    I find it absolutely entertaining to watch certain folks on FOX like Tucker, I luv his laugh.

    Hannity is a damn cry baby, same talking points every show.

    Years ago I would hear Lavin on the radio (before FOX) and he would scream and yell talking to himself, so comical.

    My favorite was Dr. Savage and he hates FOX, he starts yelling too. He calls Hannity “the wall pounder” because Hannity did construction. Savage is an educated man and he’s banned in Great Britain.

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    I find it absolutely entertaining to watch certain folks on FOX like Tucker, I luv his laugh.

    Hannity is a damn cry baby, same talking points every show.

    Years ago I would hear Lavin on the radio (before FOX) and he would scream and yell talking to himself, so comical.

    My favorite was Dr. Savage and he hates FOX, he starts yelling too. He calls Hannity “the wall pounder” because Hannity did construction. Savage is an educated man and he’s banned in Great Britain.

    Being banned is a great achievement. 2 Live Crew was banned in the USA, not literally but close.

    The ladies on the "Talk" are going to be pissed if they find out you are cheating on them with Tucker.
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    Originally Posted by Jbizzlechizzle View Post
    Yes, the entire Senate are basically in the Trump cult because they're too scared to call Trump on his BS because of his influence over the base of the party.

    Why are there only 2 republicans on the 1/6 committee and why are you so vehemently defending the party that clearly is still enabling this clown called Trump?
    You completely misunderstand me. I am not defending a party. I told you I am not a Republican. Did you miss my earlier post?

    There is a difference between wanting to know the truth versus going with the crowd or the team.

    Everything to you is about Jan 6. I don't think about Jan 6 and I don't think about The Russia Hoax where your party and the FBI lied to the American people for 4 long years and costing the taxpayers millions of dollars on a 100% fabricated lie initiated by Hillary. Nothing, right? It was something to me and millions of others, but the media doesn't cover it because it didn't fit into their ideology and their marriage to the democratic party.

    You guys scoff at that and you scoff at Hunter Biden receiving millions from China and Joe benefiting and the FBI protecting him as if it means nothing. You scoff at the 100% open southern border, where the Cartels control it and make hundred of millions per month trafficking drugs and trafficking people, trafficking women for the sex trade. Why doesn't CNN and all the others mention this? WHY? Biden wants it open. ******** flows though and is the #1 killer among ages 18 to 45. Talk about a cult.

    I do not have a party. If the dems had it together and if Biden didn't go progressive and hire a slew of ESG idiots from BlackRock, I would be more easy on him.

    If I support the Republican party, you support drag queens in every elementary school. That is how ridiculous your accusation is.

    There is a difference between supporting and merely telling the truth. Similar to a judge being non-partisan and needing only the facts. I am not committed to any team, so I will not lie for anyone.

    You didn't respond to my earlier two posts because you know it is true.

    You can't handle someone who is non-partisan or fair. The only response is: "Since you don't believe everything I believe and because you have a different opinion, you watch FOX News." and, "FOX News doesn't say what I want. I like CNN, MSNBC, PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, so FOX is wrong and anyone who watches FOX is wrong."

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