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    I'm sure the same people advising him to take the 5th also advised NOT to release the search warrants. For a change, it seems like he is listening to his counsel. By not releasing the warrants, it allows his minions to fill the vacuum with conspiracy theories....and it's working.
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    I'm sure the same people advising him to take the 5th also advised NOT to release the search warrants. For a change, it seems like he is listening to his counsel. By not releasing the warrants, it allows his minions to fill the vacuum with conspiracy theories....and it's working.


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    You are right 100%!



    You have not read the "creature from jeckyl island". Read it and it will open your eyes.



    You're right 100%. THE LOVE of MONEY is the root of all evil.
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    Good luck with that.

    In addition to reading "creature" you should also read the writings of the Founders. What they intended and what we now have are not even close.

    You will waste your time wishing for a good form of "gubmint." It will never happen.

    The only solution is to sit back and let it collapse.
    I am very much NOT interested in reading far right propaganda. No thanks NG. I think you're a decent guy, but you've clearly drank a poisonous tea that has led you to believe that government has to be awful. I have a lot more faith in decent people and humanity, but this message board really puts a strain on that faith.
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    Former Pres. Trump received a subpoena in the spring for documents related to what Trump is believed to have failed to turn over to federal investigators






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    If the FBI can stop a former president from leaving classified nuclear weapons information at his beach house, they can do it to you too. Scary stuff.


    “Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.”
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    If the FBI can stop a former president from leaving classified nuclear weapons information at his beach house, they can do it to you too.

    https://twitter.com/shaneharris/stat...UnjgE_UkSIbCkA
    FBI agents sought...

    If they find classified nuclear weapons information, then it will be chilling.
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    There was a period of time when it was illegal to give money to politicians. A few decades ago, most elected officials had regular jobs and could get elected without having millions in campaign donations. These are just facts. Since the supreme court ruled that corporations were essentially "people" and their money was essentially "free speech" we've seen a huge shift in who holds political power.
    Citizens United was the first case we had to study for the only law class I took in Grad School.

    I still don't understand how money = votes. If you have 10 commercials telling me to vote for you during Jeopardy, I'm going to go out of my way to vote for the other person if I don't have a strong opinion on either candidate.


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    Is it really a thankless job to be in the Whitehouse?
    If you look at a picture of Clinton or Obama on their 1st day in office and compare it their last day, they aged way more than 8 years. Of course Clinton had to put up with Hillary for that 8 years, that would probably make The Rock look like Fred Sanford.

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    why do you care what I or anyone else thinks. Haven't you bought your island where you can live tax free in harmony yet? Best of luck to you.
    You brought her name up, I don't care what you think but voting affects everyone. You on the other hand from what I recall care if folks vote for Trump.

    You didn't answer my question, your democracy allows the racists to be in control, wasn't that the problem with America? You said it yourself, "The Black Experience". For you, it may of been, but for many it's being the minority.

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    You brought her name up, I don't care what you think but voting affects everyone. You on the other hand from what I recall care if folks vote for Trump.

    You didn't answer my question, your democracy allows the racists to be in control, wasn't that the problem with America? You said it yourself, "The Black Experience". For you, it may of been, but for many it's being the minority.

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    LOL I'm not doing this with you anymore. You're just not very bright and it shows. Go back and read who brought up AOC again. It's too late on the East Coast and I'm trying to make some gains tomorrow. Night night buddy.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    FBI agents sought...

    If they find classified nuclear weapons information, then it will be chilling.
    Looks like this raid is just another example of a ruse by our government, like 4 years of the Russia Hoax on the American people.

    The disdain for an individual over-takes anything close to the truth.

    I am not defending Trump. I am defending the truth, no matter who it is.

    Fabrication of what the new IRS agents will do based on guessing. Holy shiit.

    Russia Hoax wasted 4 years and most in Congress and the FBI knew it was a hoax, but half the country bought it and still do, because it was about someone they do not like.

    Two bogus impeachments.

    Now, putting out in the media that the FBI raids a former president because they are searching for nuclear weapons classified material. Oh, but they did not find it. If they do find it, I will retract. But, this is a political hit job against a political opponent.

    January 6 was a horrible moment and Trump must take some responsibility.

    No one can talk about the truth. Most just rationalize that all this lying and ruse-jobs against a person is perfectly ok because the person is not on your political side.

    Shameful.

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    Former President Donald Trump says he is "encouraging the immediate release" of documents related to the FBI's search of his Florida estate while rejecting reports that agents had searched his home for documents related to nuclear weapons.

    "Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents, even though they have been drawn up by radical left Democrats and possible future political opponents, who have a strong and powerful vested interest in attacking me, much as they have done for the last 6 years," Trump said in a statement issued late Thursday.


    Go ahead and hate Trump, but do you support these lies from your government? They are lying to you.
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    The whole gun thing in the application of being an IRS agent is a distraction.

    The so-called NEED for more IRS is the problem.

    EVERY job should allow its employees to defend themselves with a firearm.

    There is zero reason for an IRS agent to go bust down a door.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post

    Former President Donald Trump says he is "encouraging the immediate release" of documents related to the FBI's search of his Florida estate while rejecting reports that agents had searched his home for documents related to nuclear weapons.

    "Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents, even though they have been drawn up by radical left Democrats and possible future political opponents, who have a strong and powerful vested interest in attacking me, much as they have done for the last 6 years," Trump said in a statement issued late Thursday.


    Go ahead and hate Trump, but do you support these lies from your government? They are lying to you.
    President Trump has a copy of the Warrant and Inventory that the DOJ asked the court to release, and he could release it this morning or anytime this past week if he wanted to. What he doesn’t have and probably won’t be released until if/when an indictment comes is the supporting affidavit which outlines probable cause and why a search was necessary.
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    President Trump has a copy of the Warrant and Inventory that the DOJ asked the court to release, and he could release it this morning or anytime this past week if he wanted to. What he doesn’t have and probably won’t be released until if/when an indictment comes is the supporting affidavit which outlines probable cause and why a search was necessary.
    Yes, he does. But, he wants the DoJ to release so there will not be any questions. The media would accuse him of editing it. This should make sense. But, what does it matter? Trump isn't withholding it from the public.
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    Originally Posted by Jbizzlechizzle View Post
    I am very much NOT interested in reading far right propaganda. No thanks NG. I think you're a decent guy, but you've clearly drank a poisonous tea that has led you to believe that government has to be awful. I have a lot more faith in decent people and humanity, but this message board really puts a strain on that faith.
    And I also think you are a dang good man. A very good man who is dedicated to his family.

    What I tell you is NOT far right propaganda.

    There is 'right' then there is true right.

    The left and the right created the left and the right. There is only one gubmint. There are no two parties.

    I have faith in good people and humanity. I have always said that as well. I have faith in you because, as I said, you are a good man.

    But trusting gubmint will lead many to suffering.

    At least be open minded enough to listen to all but follow none.

    This is my prediction:

    The empire will collapse. We will see the greater depression. We will see WWIII. We will fight among each other because we were conditioned to hate each other instead of looking at the root cause: gubmint.
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    Yes, he does. But, he wants the DoJ to release so there will not be any questions. The media would accuse him of editing it. This should make sense. But, what does it matter? Trump isn't withholding it from the public.
    We’ll see this afternoon I guess. President Trump announcing his approval on social media isn’t the same thing as his attorney telling the court they approve the release.
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    We’ll see this afternoon I guess. President Trump announcing his approval on social media isn’t the same thing as his attorney telling the court they approve the release.
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    Originally Posted by Jbizzlechizzle View Post
    Is it cool to try to shoot up FBI buildings now?
    This guy is an extremist accusing the opposing party of inciting violence. I have not heard that the GOP is inciting violence. I don't listen to extremists like him on either side.

    I am shocked you would give this guy any credibility, as he does not represent but a small subset of society and it is pure propaganda.

    It is on this level.

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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    I have not heard that the GOP is inciting violence.
    Wow! I'm not going to waste time arguing with you, Mark, but it surprises me to see you type this. I suppose it depends on what your definition of incitement would be, so..... Carry on.
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    Wow! I'm not going to waste time arguing with you, Mark, but it surprises me to see you type this. I suppose it depends on what your definition of incitement would be, so..... Carry on.
    You are more than welcome to cite where the GOP - the political party, is inciting violence.
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    Is it cool to try to shoot up FBI buildings now?
    No it’s not cool to shot up anything unless you are being attacked.

    Is it cool to burn buildings, businesses or police stations? From what I recall your answer was “there was real injustice” that’s no excuse.

    PS, I’m totally ok with gathering in front of any building in DC.

    And I’m not voting republican or Trump if you wanna try to talk me like I am.......
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    You are more than welcome to cite where the GOP - the political party, is inciting violence.
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