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    L5-S1 hernia, how does my deadlift look?

    So, i recently started doing standard deadlifts again (elevated with pada because weights in this gym are short so i can't lift any weight without rounding my back without elevating the bar)

    Ive had a l5 s1 hernia since 12, bad genetics, never got injured or anything to get it.

    It got very inflammated a few months ago. I decided to drop squats forever even if it was my best lift, super taxing on the spine for me.

    Decided go drop standard DL too in favor of romanian and hex.


    But recently i miss the standard DL so i decided to try it elevated and see how my back responds.


    So far my back hasn't complained too much, i wanna ask you guys, what do you think of my movement pattern?

    Anything that can be improved? Mind you I'm 6 1 and I've always struggled a lot with proper DL form


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    It looks like the bar is a bit far from your thighs on the way up, not sure if that results from the higher starting point or just a form issue. Also doesn't look like you're locking out fully. But more or less fine if you're not aggravating your back issue.

    I'd probably just do RDLs if you're gonna start that high on the pads, but do what you prefer.
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    I have 2 degenerated discs, L4/L5 and L5/S1, and the vertebrae between them has a stress fracture; sciatic pain is hell. I'd say don't do anything that aggravates it.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    I have 2 degenerated discs, L4/L5 and L5/S1, and the vertebrae between them has a stress fracture; sciatic pain is hell. I'd say don't do anything that aggravates it.
    The damn issue is that like paul says, every doctor says something else.

    You got doctors telling you do DL because they strengthen your back protecting you from further injury

    And ones that say the opposite.

    I wish i could evaluate the pros and cons of what im doing and see if it's worth it.

    The deadlift is such good exercise i feel like im missing out on a lot of gains when i dont do them
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    It looks like the bar is a bit far from your thighs on the way up, not sure if that results from the higher starting point or just a form issue. Also doesn't look like you're locking out fully. But more or less fine if you're not aggravating your back issue.

    I'd probably just do RDLs if you're gonna start that high on the pads, but do what you prefer.
    So im supposed to basically always have the bar as close as possible to my legs on the way up?

    When i do that it almost look like im squatting the weight up rather than lifting it with my back
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    Originally Posted by Datboileg View Post
    So im supposed to basically always have the bar as close as possible to my legs on the way up?
    You don't have to do anything, since people all have different dimensions & preferences and in the end if you lift the bar from floor to lockout, it doesn't matter how you do it. But yeah, keeping the bar close usually works best.

    I can't see the bar but it looks like you're setting up with it pretty far in front instead of over your foot, and that it's drifting away from your thighs (more on the way up than down).

    Originally Posted by Datboileg View Post
    When i do that it almost look like im squatting the weight up rather than lifting it with my back
    DL isn't a back isolation, you should be using your legs although with your high setup it's taking them out of most of it. If you're happy with how you do it and feel that works best for you to lift more weight, that's fine by me. You're really doing more of a rack pull than a DL anyway.
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    Originally Posted by Datboileg View Post
    So im supposed to basically always have the bar as close as possible to my legs on the way up?

    When i do that it almost look like im squatting the weight up rather than lifting it with my back
    You’re not supposed to “lift with your back”

    It is a leg exercise. You push off the floor and extend your hips and glutes to lockout. The back is there to a) keep the back and spine neutral ie not rounded or over extended and b) keep the bar as close to your body as you comfortably can.

    Your set up looks fine and good but you lack leg drive off the ground and you don’t push your hips through to lockout.
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    If you have previous back issues but still want to deadlift, sumo would probably be a smarter approach.
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