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    Why are you staying natty?

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    Starting taking gear at 27 and enjoyed every second of it. haven't had a single health problem from it and never took yolo doses.

    All I can say is don't believe a single word about gear use on forums (especially the misc) as everyone reacts differently to different compounds
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    Originally Posted by Ripper908 View Post
    Starting taking gear at 27 and enjoyed every second of it. haven't had a single health problem from it and never took yolo doses.

    All I can say is don't believe a single word about gear use on forums (especially the misc) as everyone reacts differently to different compounds
    how tf did you even procure the chit though?
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    Originally Posted by Ripper908 View Post
    Starting taking gear at 27 and enjoyed every second of it. haven't had a single health problem from it and never took yolo doses.

    All I can say is don't believe a single word about gear use on forums (especially the misc) as everyone reacts differently to different compounds
    I’m 29… got everything… am hesitant should I go for it
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    I don't know where to sauce and don't want to end up with some bath tub mix full of heavy metals and baking soda.

    My natty levels are too high for TRT via the dr in the UK.
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    Originally Posted by steeler505 View Post
    how tf did you even procure the chit though?
    gear is very common in canada and not illegal to possess in personal quantities

    read around on forums to find a legit lab and got hooked up
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    Originally Posted by ManletinAK2011 View Post
    I’m 29… got everything… am hesitant should I go for it
    depends what your goals are

    gear won't turn you into an ifbb pro nor make you look like a mass monster 1 cycle in or ever depending on your genetics
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    Because I'm genetically prone to acne and balding, also have a history of heart disease and high blood pressure in my family (then again not sure if the heart thing is because they eat a high oil diet, I have zero health issues myself)

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    Originally Posted by Ripper908 View Post
    Starting taking gear at 27 and enjoyed every second of it. haven't had a single health problem from it and never took yolo doses.

    All I can say is don't believe a single word about gear use on forums (especially the misc) as everyone reacts differently to different compounds
    The misc is ironically one of the most uneducated places on the internet when it comes to gear. The forum rules obviously don’t help, but jesus some of the BS I’ve read on here made my eyes bleed.
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    Androgens age your skin and thin your hair, both of which are way more important than muscle. Not to mention the whole decreasing your life expectancy thing
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    I go back and forth and could never pull the trigger. I know I could look insane with celltech but I know myself very well and I would never come off, i also dont feel like risking fertility for vanity with reinforcement from cult like social circles it attracts. What difference is that to a tranny?
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    1) it's a felony
    2) you don't know what you are getting, was your stuff made in a bathtub then smuggled in some guys ass? Probably. What are the long term effects of injecting this crap into yourself, we dont know
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    4) Constant pinning - not fun, if you are doing it right you are injecting every 2-3 days to keep your levels optimal, after 8-12 weeks this sucks
    5) Post cycle depression - you can't stay on forever, but you will miss it when you are not on, this can lead to very negative mental health
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    1. Don't want to increase rate of balding
    2. Don't want to cause issues with my organs
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    I am jealous af of bike riders tho
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    Hopped on TRT for life over a year ago. Froze my sperm in case I become infertile.

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    I don’t want to. Just don’t have a source ded fkn srs
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    Originally Posted by Ripper908 View Post
    gear is very common in canada and not illegal to possess in personal quantities

    read around on forums to find a legit lab and got hooked up
    Correct, easy as hell in Canada and if you are in europe should be quite easy also. Do some digging.

    I am currently natty, done some PH and oral AAS cycles and it's night and day from natty. My Dr said I can go on TRT whenever I want but at 35 just not ready for that yet.
    Maybe after a few bike rides I will.
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    If you aren't competing on stage what's the point? Unless your pushing 40 and ur natty test lvls are declining I don't see a reason to take it unless you are competing/ work in the fitness industry.
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    Originally Posted by DrFeeIGood View Post
    1) it's a felony
    2) you don't know what you are getting, was your stuff made in a bathtub then smuggled in some guys ass? Probably. What are the long term effects of injecting this crap into yourself, we dont know
    3) Negative health effects - YES, ask a real doc who works in this field, androgens cause a number of problems, mainly being cardiovascular, Misc docs will say otherwise but they are uneducated, watch the "anabolicdoc" on youtube, an actual MD who works with the roid population.
    4) Constant pinning - not fun, if you are doing it right you are injecting every 2-3 days to keep your levels optimal, after 8-12 weeks this sucks
    5) Post cycle depression - you can't stay on forever, but you will miss it when you are not on, this can lead to very negative mental health
    6) Potential for total natty test shutdown/reduced ability to have kids
    lol I have been pinning DAILY for 2 years now. Keeps hormone levels more stable and I just hit myself with .25mL with a slin pin every morning
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    Originally Posted by Lucas5814 View Post
    1. Don't want to increase rate of balding
    2. Don't want to cause issues with my organs
    3. Expensive
    4. Coming off will feel horrible losing all those gains

    I am jealous af of bike riders tho
    a years worth of syringes are more expensive than the gear. the cost of 2 or 3 months worth of protein will get you a years worth of test to keep you at slightly above average levels
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    Originally Posted by Lucas5814 View Post
    1. Don't want to increase rate of balding
    2. Don't want to cause issues with my organs
    3. Expensive
    4. Coming off will feel horrible losing all those gains

    I am jealous af of bike riders tho
    I was worried about the hair line thing but my dad is 50 and his hasn’t reversed and my moms dad hairline is intact too I’ve always read that it just speeds up balding for people who have that gene,

    I feel you on the organs
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    Originally Posted by Techriding101 View Post
    a years worth of syringes are more expensive than the gear. the cost of 2 or 3 months worth of protein will get you a years worth of test to keep you at slightly above average levels
    Arent you worried about whatever impurities it has from being manufactured in a place you know nothing about?
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    Originally Posted by Techriding101 View Post
    lol I have been pinning DAILY for 2 years now. Keeps hormone levels more stable and I just hit myself with .25mL with a slin pin every morning
    Sounds terrible, also sounds like you need a break.
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