Reply
Results 1 to 19 of 19
  1. #1
    Registered User rmathisen's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 6
    Rep Power: 0
    rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    rmathisen is offline

    Whey Protein Powder - Is it bad for your kidneys/digestive tract?

    I just recently have been increasing my protein intake (Brand: Muscle Milk)
    from 1 shake (25g protein per day)
    to 4 shakes spaced out throughout the day (100g per day)
    understanding that I need to do this for muscle repair & energy. (along with consuming BCAA's)

    Is this too much for my body to be processing?
    Is there any reason to worry about gut health, kidneys, my stomach, etc


    Thanks for any responses!
    Robert
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Moderator SuffolkPunch's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 54,306
    Rep Power: 1337547
    SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz
    SuffolkPunch is offline
    The idea that protein is bad for the kidneys is a common misconception. There are people with existing kidney conditions that are advised to limit their protein intake - but that is not the same as saying that protein causes the issue, there is no evidence of that. Protein is present in most foods, the problem (if it existed) would apply to all of those, not just protein powders.
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User rmathisen's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 6
    Rep Power: 0
    rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    rmathisen is offline
    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    The idea that protein is bad for the kidneys is a common misconception. There are people with existing kidney conditions that are advised to limit their protein intake - but that is not the same as saying that protein causes the issue, there is no evidence of that. Protein is present in most foods, the problem (if it existed) would apply to all of those, not just protein powders.
    Thank you so much for your response.
    Your statement aligns with others that I've seen in my google searches.

    Would there be any harms to consider with this vast increase in intake? (assuming for a generally healthy 38 year old)
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Common sense/moderation. gbullock32's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: Coalinga, California, United States
    Age: 31
    Posts: 45,981
    Rep Power: 363354
    gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    gbullock32 is offline
    Originally Posted by rmathisen View Post
    Thank you so much for your response.
    Your statement aligns with others that I've seen in my google searches.

    Would there be any harms to consider with this vast increase in intake? (assuming for a generally healthy 38 year old)
    Your wallet is going to hurt; but other than that maybe upset stomach if you have issues with that much lactose.
    Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
    1/13/16: Massive hernia.
    5/10/16: Finally back to lifting, light but improving.

    Why Teens shouldn't cut/Lack of progress thread- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=169272763&p=1397509823#post1397509823
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User stad0203's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2011
    Posts: 4,809
    Rep Power: 132771
    stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) stad0203 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    stad0203 is offline
    What whole food sources are you getting your protein from, what's your daily goal?
    _____________________________________

    Cellucor Nutrabolt Lead Representative
    w/ Burntreality :)

    _____________________________________
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Registered User rmathisen's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 6
    Rep Power: 0
    rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    rmathisen is offline
    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Your wallet is going to hurt; but other than that maybe upset stomach if you have issues with that much lactose.
    Interesting. I didn't even consider the lactose content being an issue.
    My stomach has been acting up recently, hence the reason I started this thread.

    I think for the 5lb bag, I could justify the $40 I spent on it on Amazon.

    Are there any other products you'd advise other than MM that would also be cost effective?

    Thanks!
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Moderator SuffolkPunch's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 54,306
    Rep Power: 1337547
    SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz
    SuffolkPunch is offline
    Yes, it's more likely to be lactose - or perhaps an additive like a sugar alcohol based artificial sweetener can upset some people's guts.
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User coachcalande's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2015
    Age: 56
    Posts: 3,739
    Rep Power: 13638
    coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) coachcalande is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
    coachcalande is online now
    I’m always amazed at the bull#$&* about protein.

    Bros smoke, vape, drink, eat processed foods, eat grilled foods…all things that are linked to cancer and other diseases, yet suddenly there’s a big fear of protein poisoning?

    I have taken in 300-400 g of protein most of my adult life. Millions of whole eggs, crazy amounts of meat and copious amounts of whey protein, gallons of milk…I’ve NEVER had any limit when it comes to protein…I get as much as possible.

    Good luck trying to OD on protein.
    "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

    Old Guy deadlifting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zMrim-0Dks
    bench press https://youtu.be/GaRzfueJVJQ

    Every workout is GAME DAY!
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Common sense/moderation. gbullock32's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: Coalinga, California, United States
    Age: 31
    Posts: 45,981
    Rep Power: 363354
    gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) gbullock32 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    gbullock32 is offline
    Originally Posted by rmathisen View Post
    Interesting. I didn't even consider the lactose content being an issue.
    My stomach has been acting up recently, hence the reason I started this thread.

    I think for the 5lb bag, I could justify the $40 I spent on it on Amazon.

    Are there any other products you'd advise other than MM that would also be cost effective?

    Thanks!
    An isolate would help if lactose is the problem, but those cost more; eggs/egg whites are a good whole food option, lean meat, or jerky are nice. I've been buying 10 pounds of jerky on Amazon for ~$90; 160 servings with 8g of protein per serving, delicious and not too bad of a price for a total of 1280g of protein per bag.

    https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B077VTMH...roduct_details
    Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
    1/13/16: Massive hernia.
    5/10/16: Finally back to lifting, light but improving.

    Why Teens shouldn't cut/Lack of progress thread- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=169272763&p=1397509823#post1397509823
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Masks Off TheFugitive's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2007
    Location: Chicago, Illinois, United States
    Posts: 42,625
    Rep Power: 807199
    TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheFugitive has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    TheFugitive is offline
    Cheaper protein powders can cause stomach distress, find one that works and enjoy the benefits

    Also, protein powders lower in cholesterol are easier to digest
    alienshave.com - Shave Smarter

    steve@alienshave.com

    BMBC - Master Level - Worldwide

    Original 999,999k Crew

    BCAAs Bring all the Boys to the Yard
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User showjo1josh's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2013
    Posts: 4,733
    Rep Power: 19339
    showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) showjo1josh is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
    showjo1josh is online now
    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Cheaper protein powders can cause stomach distress, find one that works and enjoy the benefits

    Also, protein powders lower in cholesterol are easier to digest
    Agreed here. I've been using the isopure unflavored whey protein isolate and it sits really well with me. Plus I can mix it into anything since unflavored and get it down quick with my post workout meal.
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Registered User rmathisen's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 6
    Rep Power: 0
    rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    rmathisen is offline
    Originally Posted by coachcalande View Post
    Good luck trying to OD on protein.
    I created this thread simply because I'm having stomach aches and pains, and this has been occurring directly after increasing my protein intake.

    Why wouldn't I question the correlation?
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Registered User rmathisen's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 6
    Rep Power: 0
    rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    rmathisen is offline
    Thank you all for your posts.

    I did some research online, and judging by the symptoms that I've been experiencing, I might have become Lactose Intolerant.
    To support this idea, just very recently I've noticed that when I stopped drinking milk, my eczema stopped flaring up & has gone away.

    I'll be trying out the Isolate & hoping this does the trick for me.

    Thank you all!
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Registered User rmathisen's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 6
    Rep Power: 0
    rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250) rmathisen has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    rmathisen is offline
    I'm looking at Isolate Protein Powders on Amazon, and I'm still seeing "Contains: Milk", or "Contains: Milk & Soy"

    Should I look for something that doesn't contain milk? Or, is this just trace amounts that will contain very little lactose?
    (I'm aware that Milk is the source of Whey Protein)
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Han shot first! TolerantLactose's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2019
    Posts: 4,841
    Rep Power: 30711
    TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) TolerantLactose has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    TolerantLactose is offline
    Originally Posted by rmathisen View Post
    Should I look for something that doesn't contain milk? Or, is this just trace amounts that will contain very little lactose?
    (I'm aware that Milk is the source of Whey Protein)
    Companies will tend to disclose possible allergens that might adulterate their products just to cover their asses (eg. "processed in a facility that handles peanuts").
    Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
    Galatians 4:16

    You are not required to set yourself on fire to keep others warm.
    Unknown
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    Registered User air2fakie's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2019
    Age: 52
    Posts: 7,170
    Rep Power: 24855
    air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) air2fakie has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    air2fakie is offline
    Originally Posted by rmathisen View Post
    I'm looking at Isolate Protein Powders on Amazon, and I'm still seeing "Contains: Milk", or "Contains: Milk & Soy"

    Should I look for something that doesn't contain milk? Or, is this just trace amounts that will contain very little lactose?
    (I'm aware that Milk is the source of Whey Protein)
    For some lactose intolerant people, even isolate causes issues. If you're concerned just by plant-based protein powder. They have some "sport" versions with 30g protein if you don't like the standard 20g amount. The Orgain vanilla flavor tastes pretty good mixed with some fruits + water and/or juice.
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    Registered User Brankov88's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2021
    Age: 52
    Posts: 149
    Rep Power: 860
    Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) Brankov88 is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    Brankov88 is offline
    Whey concentrate will cause bloating and Diarrhea in some cases, so stick to whey isolate/Hydrolysate! I suggest you don't take more than 2-3 scoops daily, as for kidneys I have a friend who will get kidney pain after eating 2 boiled eggs!
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    Registered User ursalacim's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 1
    Rep Power: 0
    ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ursalacim has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    ursalacim is offline
    Proteins are generally more complex supplements, and it might be difficult for your body to process them. You should better talk to a professional before starting to take anything of this kind.
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    Registered User NotAnAlien's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2022
    Age: 52
    Posts: 14
    Rep Power: 0
    NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) NotAnAlien has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    NotAnAlien is offline
    Depends on your body, it's reaction to it, how much you take, what kind you take.

    There's been lots of reports of toxic ingredients and traces of dangerous metals in them. Also anything with "natural flavors" isn't as regulated as a term on products as other terminology. Legally a company can take a small amount of an ingredient and add a laundry list of up to 100 chemicals to it without having to legally disclose what they are.

    Even alot of organic foods or companies with cleaner ingredients use the "natural flavor" term. I've even seen "organic natural flavor" and it was usda inspected, which is probably the safest bet out the bunch. Good luck finding that in a whey powder.

    So all in all it very well could be bad for your kidneys or digestive track if you get a cheesy one off the internet or from some YouTube influencer.
    $50-60 for an elite protein not sold in stores with healthy ingredients and still contains sucralose? Hard pass.

    Good luck.
    Last edited by NotAnAlien; 07-16-2022 at 07:36 PM. Reason: Woops
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts