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    Originally Posted by GrouchyUSMC View Post
    You're not a fan of philosophy I take it. Otherwise you would see why this statement makes no sense.

    All great men follow a code - otherwise you stand for nothing. And there is nothing more sad than to see a man who accomplishes little simply because he has no guidance. All too prevalent today when things like honor and courage and commitment mean little.
    What self serving nonsense!
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    No, I want you to cite proof of this statement..hell even the latest science will tell you there are 10 dimensions
    If you want proof of what you are, you have to observe yourself on an ongoing basis. There is an irrevocable perception, though.
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    Supramax, did you watch the vid I posted, "The Heavenly Bank Account"? watch it, it's gold, there is another tune on that same vid called "The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing", it's right up your alley and I agree with all of it, many church goers are very offended by the songs, but they aren't making fun of all church goers, but the ones who give to the millionaires.

    I'm not a church goer, but I would at least check out the pastors car and house before giving, IMO.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    What self serving nonsense!
    Is it only self serving?

    What are your values?
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    If you want proof of what you are, you have to observe yourself on an ongoing basis. There is an irrevocable perception, though.
    I know what I am,you have stated that we are nothing more that what is observable. This is not true, study basic physics and you would know this..
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    I know what I am,you have stated that we are nothing more that what is observable. This is not true, study basic physics and you would know this..
    I said observe yourself, find out what you are, but you say you know what you are and it's more than what is observable. You're talking about a belief, an operation of thought, that's all. Someone that believes that they will live forever with the creator of the universe after the body dies, shouldn't preach physics.

    Anyways, observing the mind is the first step of an unusual journey that you will never take.
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    Originally Posted by GrouchyUSMC View Post
    Is it only self serving?

    What are your values?
    Do we really need belief?
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Supramax, did you watch the vid I posted, "The Heavenly Bank Account"? watch it, it's gold, there is another tune on that same vid called "The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing", it's right up your alley and I agree with all of it, many church goers are very offended by the songs, but they aren't making fun of all church goers, but the ones who give to the millionaires.

    I'm not a church goer, but I would at least check out the pastors car and house before giving, IMO.
    I'll get around to watching it.
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    Abortion for purpose of contraception is murder.

    Underaged
    Rape
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    Mother at risk

    Only reasons abortion should be offered.

    Don’t give a **** about “womans body autonomy” as if your not raped, you consented to sex which the end product by design is a pregnancy.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Do we really need belief?
    That's not what I asked at all.

    Value - A person's principles or standards of behavior; one's judgment of what is important in life.

    What are yours?
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    Originally Posted by GrouchyUSMC View Post
    That's not what I asked at all.

    Value - A person's principles or standards of behavior; one's judgment of what is important in life.

    What are yours?
    Principles and standards are beliefs, for **** sake! Put on your thinking cap. Do we really need belief?
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Principles and standards are beliefs, for **** sake! Put on your thinking cap. Do we really need belief?
    Supramax just look at your signature, that’s a belief you have.

    You also judged how a rich person lives which also a belief.

    For some, The rich person being rich comes from the same concepts as a weight lifter lifts weights.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Supramax just look at your signature, that’s a belief you have.

    You also judged how a rich person lives which also a belief.

    For some, The rich person being rich comes from the same concepts as a weight lifter lifts weights.
    I'll address your post as soon as Grouchy responds. I don't want to give him an out.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Principles and standards are beliefs, for **** sake! Put on your thinking cap. Do we really need belief?
    Everyone has beliefs, and I don't mean that in a secular sense. It all depends on how you were raised, where, what society, who your parents were, etc. There is literally not a single person in the world who exists without beliefs. Do you believe molesting a child is right or wrong? How you answer is your belief. Considering your posts on here, you cannot say you have zero belief in anything either.

    Why is it so hard to answer my question, though? What values did your parents teach you that you lead your family with and try to instill in them? Have you ever even though about that?
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    Originally Posted by GrouchyUSMC View Post
    Everyone has beliefs, and I don't mean that in a secular sense. It all depends on how you were raised, where, what society, who your parents were, etc. There is literally not a single person in the world who exists without beliefs. Do you believe molesting a child is right or wrong? How you answer is your belief. Considering your posts on here, you cannot say you have zero belief in anything either.

    Why is it so hard to answer my question, though? What values did your parents teach you that you lead your family with and try to instill in them? Have you ever even though about that?
    Why the diversion from the fact that believing in a fear based fairytale is a waste of a human life? It's because it's your life, isn't it? At least, it seems that you now comprehend that your precious values are merely conditioned beliefs. What is belief?
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Supramax just look at your signature, that’s a belief you have.
    It's a perception of the obvious. It's observable.

    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    You also judged how a rich person lives which also a belief.
    Quote or link to what you're talking about, please?

    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    For some, The rich person being rich comes from the same concepts as a weight lifter lifts weights.
    You're gonna hafta splain dat.
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    Supramax maybe just repeat your philosophy on rich people again for us. I’m not searching for the fuking post.

    I’m not wasting anymore time on you....


    Looks like Biden just made an executive order on abortions.

    Also in the same speech he included some tin foil hat comments that we here get laughed at, it’s about data privacy and apps he says the right is stealing information or chit, he’s worried about it, too funny.

    For gods sake vote,vote,vote- Brandon (didn’t he win, so people are voting dumb fuk), Kamala had a smirk on her face as Branden was having his speech slipping moments on the abortion order, this is pure comedy.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Supramax maybe just repeat your philosophy on rich people again for us. I’m not searching for the fuking post.

    I’m not wasting anymore time on you....
    As per usual, you can't back up your bull****. To reciprocate, though, I'll remember to not waste anymore time on you, either.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Supramax maybe just repeat your philosophy on rich people again for us. I’m not searching for the fuking post.

    I’m not wasting anymore time on you....


    Looks like Biden just made an executive order on abortions.

    Also in the same speech he included some tin foil hat comments that we here get laughed at, it’s about data privacy and apps he says the right is stealing information or chit, he’s worried about it, too funny.

    For gods sake vote,vote,vote- Brandon (didn’t he win, so people are voting dumb fuk), Kamala had a smirk on her face as Branden was having his speech slipping moments on the abortion order, this is pure comedy.

    President Biden signed an executive order Friday aimed at protecting access to abortion, as he faces mounting pressure from fellow Democrats to be more forceful on the subject after the Supreme Court ended a constitutional right to the procedure two weeks ago. The president blasted the court's decision, and urged Americans to vote for candidates in November who want to codify abortion access.

    "This was not a decision driven by the Constitution, and despite what those justices in the majority said, this was not a decision driven by history," Mr. Biden said at the White House Friday, flanked by Vice President Kamala Harris and Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra.

    The actions the president outlined Friday are intended to try to mitigate some potential penalties women seeking abortion may face after the ruling but are limited in their ability to safeguard access to abortion nationwide.

    Specifically, the executive order asks the Justice Department to do everything within its power to protect women seeking abortion, including protecting women's right to travel to another state for an abortion and to protect access to Food and Drug Administration-approved abortion drugs. The order also directs the Health and Human Services Department to ensure all women and girls experiencing pregnancy loss receive the emergency care they need, no matter what state they're in. The executive order also protects access to contraception and expands access to free contraception, Mr. Biden said.
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    As per usual, you can't back up your bull****. To reciprocate, though, I'll remember to not waste anymore time on you, either.
    You have mentioned how the rich don’t live the way you believe more than once, you’ll do it again, and when you do, I’ll be there to quote it- Chuck Norris.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Why the diversion from the fact that believing in a fear based fairytale is a waste of a human life? It's because it's your life, isn't it? At least, it seems that you now comprehend that your precious values are merely conditioned beliefs. What is belief?
    It's pretty sad to see that you can't answer that question. Many men are like that. Just for yourself and the sake of your family and friends, sit down one day with a notebook and write down everything that's important to you. Use that bit of self-introspection to see if you're really living the way you want to live. You will end up getting so much more out of life and giving more to others that way.

    I wish you luck on that. I'll be gone for the next two weeks camping (family and self-reliance being two of the values my family believes in among others) so no need to respond.
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    It's pretty sad to see that you can't answer that question. Many men are like that. Just for yourself and the sake of your family and friends, sit down one day with a notebook and write down everything that's important to you. Use that bit of self-introspection to see if you're really living the way you want to live. You will end up getting so much more out of life and giving more to others that way.

    I wish you luck on that. I'll be gone for the next two weeks camping (family and self-reliance being two of the values my family believes in among others) so no need to respond.

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    Originally Posted by GrouchyUSMC View Post
    It's pretty sad to see that you can't answer that question. Many men are like that. Just for yourself and the sake of your family and friends, sit down one day with a notebook and write down everything that's important to you. Use that bit of self-introspection to see if you're really living the way you want to live. You will end up getting so much more out of life and giving more to others that way.

    I wish you luck on that. I'll be gone for the next two weeks camping (family and self-reliance being two of the values my family believes in among others) so no need to respond.
    Stick your red herring up your ass! Was it mommy and daddy that told you about the man in the sky who watches your every move? Do you also believe in Adam and Eve and in Noahs' Ark? Do you think the world is only 6,000 years old? What does your ignorance include? You're an adult now and you still believe in a fantastical fear based fairytale. Being decent because you want a reward at the end of your little life is what's sad.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Being decent because you want a reward at the end of your little life is what's sad.
    Have ever read the Bible? The people in it didn’t live thier lives as saints. David it lots of bad things.

    In the men’s study I was in we interpreted many things that showed good works isn’t rewarded for enternal life but faith, however at the same time faith does bring one to good works, but good works and no faith is not the answer.

    I’m not good at interpreting passages and stuff, I’m just telling you what I learned in men’s bible study. My mom and dad never took me to church, nor did they ever tell me about god or the Bible.

    We were told via the Bible all the stuff Catholics do like Hail Marys and Confessions and all these works are false, and that purgatory is also false, prayers don’t get someone into heaven.
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    Do you also believe in Adam and Eve and in Noahs' Ark?
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