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    Canola Oil - Too much Omega 3?

    I'm currently getting down about 60g of Canola oil on a low-ish carb diet, which I just realized is about 5.5g of Omega 3 fatty acids, which seems like a crazy amount. I know there's some talk about Omega 3's being toxic at high amounts??

    I would prefer to use Olive oil but I have an intolerance (srs). Canola seemed like the next best thing.
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    I wouldn't use something as highly processed as canola oil as my primary source of fat. Maybe you could tolerate avocado oil better.
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    wait what do you mean by having an olive oil intolerance?

    Also try avocado oil.
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    I would eat more bacon. But I'm sort of biased to porking.
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    I don't think the Omega-3 would be a concern but trans fat may.


    You could get your fats from other sources, too.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    I wouldn't use something as highly processed as canola oil as my primary source of fat. Maybe you could tolerate avocado oil better.
    Yeh, I've been thinking about Avo oil.

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    wait what do you mean by having an olive oil intolerance?

    Also try avocado oil.
    Sneezing and nausea. Could be an allergy.

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    I would eat more bacon. But I'm sort of biased to porking.
    I'm trying not to die bro.

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    I don't think the Omega-3 would be a concern but trans fat may.

    You could get your fats from other sources, too.
    The trans fat per 60g olive oil is 0.1g and 0.2g per 60g canola oil. Seems like nothing?


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    I'm trying not to die bro.
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    I would not let the chance of dieing prevent me from eating b..ac....o......
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    Originally Posted by T150 View Post
    The trans fat per 60g olive oil is 0.1g and 0.2g per 60g canola oil. Seems like nothing?
    That's trans fat per tablespoon or 13.6g, not per 60g.
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    I would not let the chance of dieing prevent me from eating b..ac....o......
    100% of people who eat bacon will die. Rest in peace
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    I've heard it claimed that bacon fat has beneficial properties among fats, but am too busy right now to look much into that right now.
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    Originally Posted by DougyF7 View Post
    That's trans fat per tablespoon or 13.6g, not per 60g.
    Damn, TF info on canola is confusing af.

    cronometer does say 0.1g for 13.6g and yet says 0.2 for 60g. Seems like many sources vary wildly (3%). Cold-pressed might be the way to go.
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    Originally Posted by T150 View Post
    Damn, TF info on canola is confusing af.

    cronometer does say 0.1g for 13.6g and yet says 0.2 for 60g. Seems like many sources vary wildly. Cold-pressed might be the way to go.
    IF YOU MUST yes cold press only. And yeah the biggest problem with seed oils is omega 3 which causes inflammation if you don’t get enough omega 6.
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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    IF YOU MUST yes cold press only. And yeah the biggest problem with seed oils is omega 3 which causes inflammation if you don’t get enough omega 6.
    I've heard that but for the other way round'. 'They' say the Omega ratio theory is outdated and mostly debunked. Apparently If you get 'enough' omega-3, 'too much' Omega-6 is not an issue and is not inflammatory.

    But yeah, balance is probably best.
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    Originally Posted by T150 View Post
    I'm currently getting down about 60g of Canola oil on a low-ish carb diet, which I just realized is about 5.5g of Omega 3 fatty acids, which seems like a crazy amount. I know there's some talk about Omega 3's being toxic at high amounts??

    I would prefer to use Olive oil but I have an intolerance (srs). Canola seemed like the next best thing.
    I eat about 60 - 75 ml of olive oil a day (6.6 to 7.75 g Omega 3), as well as fish oil that amounts to an additional 2 g of Omega 3 a day

    I have no answers, I am, however, curious if anyone with knowledge on omega 3's would chime in.

    Edit:

    On most days
    8.6 g omega 3 (from 60 ml olive oil)
    4.9 g omega 6 (from 120 g peanut butter powder)

    Looking into this balance thing

    Yes my diet is boring

    Edit:

    https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal...ecsectitle0010

    no evidence of increased risk of bleeding with use of n-3 LC-PUFAs was observed. Furthermore there were no statistically significant changes from baseline in measured coagulation parameters.
    Conclusion
    These findings further support the safe consumption of n-3 LC-PUFAs, even at short-term doses up to 10 g/day of eicosapentaenoic acid + docosahexaenoic acid (EPA + DHA) or consumed for up to 52 weeks above 1.5 g/day, in selected vulnerable and sensitive populations such as subjects with gastrointestinal cancer or patients in an ICU. We found no evidence to support any concern raised with regards to the application of n-3 LC-PUFAs and the potentially increased risk for the occurrence of adverse bleeding manifestations in these selected patient populations consuming fish oil enriched medical nutrition.
    Yeah it seems to be no risk, even in very high dises
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    Originally Posted by Camarija View Post
    I eat about 60 - 75 ml of olive oil a day (6.6 to 7.75 g Omega 3), as well as fish oil that amounts to an additional 2 g of Omega 3 a day

    I have no answers, I am, however, curious if anyone with knowledge on omega 3's would chime in.

    Edit:

    On most days
    8.6 g omega 3 (from 60 ml olive oil)
    4.9 g omega 6 (from 120 g peanut butter powder)

    Looking into this balance thing

    Yes my diet is boring

    Edit:

    https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal...ecsectitle0010



    Yeah it seems to be no risk, even in very high dises
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    Anyone who's ever had salmon for dinner apparently is risking death.
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    Why are you on a low carb diet?

    You’ll be fine bro get bloods if unsure
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    Originally Posted by Camarija View Post
    I eat about 60 - 75 ml of olive oil a day (6.6 to 7.75 g Omega 3), as well as fish oil that amounts to an additional 2 g of Omega 3 a day

    I have no answers, I am, however, curious if anyone with knowledge on omega 3's would chime in.

    Edit:

    On most days
    8.6 g omega 3 (from 60 ml olive oil)
    4.9 g omega 6 (from 120 g peanut butter powder)

    Looking into this balance thing

    Yes my diet is boring

    Edit:

    https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal...ecsectitle0010


    Yeah it seems to be no risk, even in very high dises
    Nice find.Will read later. So much conflicting info on what a safe upper limit is.

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    Anyone who's ever had salmon for dinner apparently is risking death.
    Good point. A 14oz Salmon fillet = 8.3g of Omega 3. Kind of puts it into context.
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    Why are you on a low carb diet?

    You’ll be fine bro get bloods if unsure
    Dont be so sure. I just got bloods done a second time after being on a Mediterranean diet and keto for a month each and my HDL lowered and LDL went up lol. However I fixed my fukked liver as AST and ALT went back into normal ranges.
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    Originally Posted by readreindeer666 View Post
    Why are you on a low carb diet?

    You’ll be fine bro get bloods if unsure
    Probably not even 'low' carb. Maybe 40%, but I feel better on higher fat. Will never go Keto though.
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    Anyone who's ever had salmon for dinner apparently is risking death.
    The puffer fish is more dangerous than the salmon fish.
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    Originally Posted by T150 View Post
    I'm currently getting down about 60g of Canola oil on a low-ish carb diet, which I just realized is about 5.5g of Omega 3 fatty acids, which seems like a crazy amount. I know there's some talk about Omega 3's being toxic at high amounts??

    I would prefer to use Olive oil but I have an intolerance (srs). Canola seemed like the next best thing.
    Research suggests it's totally fine. In fact from a cardiometabolic point of view I don't think there's anything better.

    Forty-two controlled clinical trials were included in the systematic review.

    Canola oil improved several cardiometabolic markers compared with saturated fat, sunflower, and olive oil.

    The greatest benefits occurred when ~15% of the total energy intake was consumed as CO.
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    Research suggests it's totally fine. In fact from a cardiometabolic point of view I don't think there's anything better.



    https://www.nmcd-journal.com/article...234-9/fulltext

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30381009/
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    Research suggests it's totally fine. In fact from a cardiometabolic point of view I don't think there's anything better.



    https://www.nmcd-journal.com/article...234-9/fulltext

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30381009/
    lol ok paid by a canola oil company im sure. Also no one is using lipids to measure cardiovascular risk factors anymore as the article implies, coronary calcium scan would be far more useful. Also meta analysis 'studies' lol. Yeah im sure.
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    lol ok paid by a canola oil company im sure. Also no one is using lipids to measure cardiovascular risk factors anymore as the article implies, coronary calcium scan would be far more useful. Also meta analysis 'studies' lol. Yeah im sure.
    I’m not sure if you actually looked at the funding or if you were just being sarcastic, but even if they were funded by such a company that doesn’t automatically render the findings false.

    Also, meta analysis is the highest standard of study design available. Why would you scoff at that?

    Very confusing post

    Also, calcium score is not even close to the most reliable predictor of cardiovascular issues especially in younger people.
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    The actual content of the food can vary by +/- 20% by what is printed on the label. I verified this with a lipid extraction from ground beef via normal cooking methods.
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    I’m not sure if you actually looked at the funding or if you were just being sarcastic, but even if they were funded by such a company that doesn’t automatically render the findings false.

    Also, meta analysis is the highest standard of study design available. Why would you scoff at that?

    Very confusing post

    Also, calcium score is not even close to the most reliable predictor of cardiovascular issues especially in younger people.
    This is so laughable it borders on trolling. First no I didn't look at the funding, however there is more than enough evidence to show omega 3 are not good for you if your ratio is out of balance. And using nothing but canola oil would be one way to do that. Why do you think all fast food is so bad for you? Secondly meta analysis are NOT the highest standard, that's so laughably false its not even funny. They are in fact one of the lowest and laziest forms of studies and are usually proven wrong against the gold standard double blind. In fact many of them are based on nothing more than other meta analysis studies.
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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    This is so laughable it borders on trolling. First no I didn't look at the funding, however there is more than enough evidence to show omega 3 are not good for you if your ratio is out of balance. And using nothing but canola oil would be one way to do that. Why do you think all fast food is so bad for you? Secondly meta analysis are NOT the highest standard, that's so laughably false its not even funny. They are in fact one of the lowest and laziest forms of studies and are usually proven wrong against the gold standard double blind. In fact many of them are based on nothing more than other meta analysis studies.
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    I was reading up on the canola oil refining process and it was pointed out that even though hexane is used, it does not -repeat- does not affect the pufa 3:6 ratio.

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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    First no I didn't look at the funding
    Exactly, so why even make that comment?

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    however there is more than enough evidence to show omega 3 are not good for you if your ratio is out of balance. And using nothing but canola oil would be one way to do that.
    If you have actual data to support that statement, then by all means, share it. OP said he is getting 5.5g of n-3 from the oil. Show me the data where that amount caused an issue.

    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Why do you think all fast food is so bad for you?
    Uh, because it's highly palatable, easy to over-consume, contains a lot of processed red meat which is directly linked to cancer and other problems.... it's not canola oil, that's for sure.

    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Secondly meta analysis are NOT the highest standard, that's so laughably false its not even funny. They are in fact one of the lowest and laziest forms of studies and are usually proven wrong against the gold standard double blind. In fact many of them are based on nothing more than other meta analysis studies.
    They are. If you actually look at meta-analyses where the included studies are high quality, they are 100% the best design. Remember, a meta-analysis isn't just ONE study, it's a study of MANY studies... you just need to look at all the data. This can and usually does include many individual double-blind, placebo controlled studies.

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    Dont be so sure. I just got bloods done a second time after being on a Mediterranean diet and keto for a month each and my HDL lowered and LDL went up lol. However I fixed my fukked liver as AST and ALT went back into normal ranges.
    Well that's likely because you overate SFA's... which has a bad impact on your lipids. Keto is notorious for that.
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