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    Originally Posted by T150 View Post
    I've heard that but for the other way round'. 'They' say the Omega ratio theory is outdated and mostly debunked. Apparently If you get 'enough' omega-3, 'too much' Omega-6 is not an issue and is not inflammatory.
    Correct. Good explanation by Bill Harris here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALm74EGs-K4

    References in the video.
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    Yes, canola oil has a high amount of omega-3 fatty acids. The body needs these nutrients for a variety of functions, including maintaining cell membranes and producing hormones. But the problem is not the omega-3!

    There are a few potential dangers associated with canola oil. First, it is a highly processed food product that is extracted using harsh chemicals and high temperatures. This can cause the oil to lose some of its healthy properties and potentially create harmful compounds. Second, canola oil is a source of omega-6 fatty acids, which are pro-inflammatory. Too much omega-6 in the diet can lead to inflammation in the body. Finally, canola oil is high in unhealthy trans fats. These fats have been linked to heart disease, obesity, and other chronic health conditions.
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    Originally Posted by LiftNutz View Post
    Yes, canola oil has a high amount of omega-3 fatty acids. The body needs these nutrients for a variety of functions, including maintaining cell membranes and producing hormones. But the problem is not the omega-3!

    There are a few potential dangers associated with canola oil. First, it is a highly processed food product that is extracted using harsh chemicals and high temperatures. This can cause the oil to lose some of its healthy properties and potentially create harmful compounds. Second, canola oil is a source of omega-6 fatty acids, which are pro-inflammatory. Too much omega-6 in the diet can lead to inflammation in the body. Finally, canola oil is high in unhealthy trans fats. These fats have been linked to heart disease, obesity, and other chronic health conditions.
    Uh, Canola oil's n3/n6 ratio is extremely good, and no... it doesn't contain significant amounts of trans fats. Hell basically ALL meat and dairy products contain trans fats too.
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    Originally Posted by LiftNutz View Post
    Yes, canola oil has a high amount of omega-3 fatty acids. The body needs these nutrients for a variety of functions, including maintaining cell membranes and producing hormones. But the problem is not the omega-3!

    There are a few potential dangers associated with canola oil. First, it is a highly processed food product that is extracted using harsh chemicals and high temperatures. This can cause the oil to lose some of its healthy properties and potentially create harmful compounds. Second, canola oil is a source of omega-6 fatty acids, which are pro-inflammatory. Too much omega-6 in the diet can lead to inflammation in the body. Finally, canola oil is high in unhealthy trans fats. These fats have been linked to heart disease, obesity, and other chronic health conditions.
    Some of your ideas are out of date. Some good source to check:
    - 2020 systematic review on canola oil: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33127255/
    - On omega 6: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALm74EGs-K4
    - The omega 3 in canola oil isn't actually very useful due to poor conversion from ALA to EPA/DHA.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Some of your ideas are out of date. Some good source to check:
    - 2020 systematic review on canola oil: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33127255/
    - On omega 6: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALm74EGs-K4
    - The omega 3 in canola oil isn't actually very useful due to poor conversion from ALA to EPA/DHA.
    Doesn't ALA itself have some benefits independent of it's usefulness after conversion to EPA/DHA?
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Doesn't ALA itself have some benefits independent of it's usefulness after conversion to EPA/DHA?
    I was formerly of the opinion that ALA is useful as a competitive inhibitor of n-6 metabolism but that was a bit of bro Science in my past.

    In any case, I'm a no on canola oil.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Doesn't ALA itself have some benefits independent of it's usefulness after conversion to EPA/DHA?
    It does have some benefits but afaik it lacks the potent benefits of EPA/DHA for CVD risk.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    It does have some benefits but afaik it lacks the potent benefits of EPA/DHA for CVD risk.
    That's consistent with my memory on it as well. There seems to be some unique benefits (I think maybe it was anti-oxidant or anti-inflammatory related) for ALA itself but the cardiovascular benefits seem mainly due to EPA, and to a lesser extent DHA which appears to particularly benefit brain health.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    I was formerly of the opinion that ALA is useful as a competitive inhibitor of n-6 metabolism but that was a bit of bro Science in my past.

    In any case, I'm a no on canola oil.
    I actually don't use basically any oil for any purpose.... other than Algae-based n3 supplements.

    I do have an avocado oil spray I use for non-stick situations and occasionally I use EVOO for light sautéing... but usually I get my fats from nuts/seeds/avocado/fish and trace amounts from certain grains like oats
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    I actually don't use basically any oil for any purpose.... other than Algae-based n3 supplements.

    I do have an avocado oil spray I use for non-stick situations and occasionally I use EVOO for light sautéing... but usually I get my fats from nuts/seeds/avocado/fish and trace amounts from certain grains like oats
    Why not olive oil or something? I would just think that would leave your food really dry, for the most part...
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Why not olive oil or something? I would just think that would leave your food really dry, for the most part...
    Why not canola oil?

    After reading some of the research I'm considering replacing olive oil with canola oil. Besides the negative stigma it has I can't really find anything bad about it.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Why not olive oil or something? I would just think that would leave your food really dry, for the most part...
    I don't like oily food, and it's a pain to clean up also...

    The feeling of excess grease in my mouth is just, blah... for me anyway.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I don't like oily food, and it's a pain to clean up also...

    The feeling of excess grease in my mouth is just, blah... for me anyway.
    Huh, well to each their own. A tablespoon or two makes a huge difference to me.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Why not canola oil?

    After reading some of the research I'm considering replacing olive oil with canola oil. Besides the negative stigma it has I can't really find anything bad about it.
    Didn't see your comment.

    Yeah, that too. I just mentioned olive oil as an easy example of a low saturated fat oil to use sparingly. I'd be chewing forever on dry food which would taste bland being nearly fatless, otherwise, as I can't see replacing all of that with avocado spread being a feasible alternative, for me.

    I'm at an age where I ought to be more mindful and protective of my long term health in a way you can sort of get away with when you're college-aged, so I'll aim to improve my own fat sources some, even if I'm not going to give up red meat and dairy.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Huh, well to each their own. A tablespoon or two makes a huge difference to me.
    For me too, just not a desirable difference.

    I’d rather eat 1/2 an avocado than a spoonful of oil
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Huh, well to each their own. A tablespoon or two makes a huge difference to me.
    why do you even care? lmao no one cares man just let people mind their own **** and if it works for them it works for them. i don't use oils either but rely on peanut butter/avocado mayo/fish are you going to cry about it?
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    why do you even care? lmao no one cares man just let people mind their own **** and if it works for them it works for them. i don't use oils either but rely on peanut butter/avocado mayo/fish are you going to cry about it?
    No, but you should probably be aware that most of the the fat in mayo is from added oils.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    No, but you should probably be aware that most of the the fat in mayo is from added oils.
    Thats another thing I don't like... Mayo and almost any creamy sauce.

    The exceptions would be curry, tzatziki, etc...
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Thats another thing I don't like... Mayo and almost any creamy sauce.

    The exceptions would be curry, tzatziki, etc...
    You and Strawng did convert me to the putting a salmon fillet over a bed of rice. Some of the oils drip down and flavor it also. Now that's one of my favorite "treat" meals if I'm spending a little extra.
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    When I was in college there was a frat called Omega something or another. All the members had an Omega letter branded on their arm.
    Maybe they were called the Omega Fatty Acids.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    You and Strawng did convert me to the putting a salmon fillet over a bed of rice. Some of the oils drip down and flavor it also. Now that's one of my favorite "treat" meals if I'm spending a little extra.
    Heck yeah... try it with coconut aminos and sesame seeds on the rice some time... it's next level!
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Heck yeah... try it with coconut aminos and sesame seeds on the rice some time... it's next level!
    Sounds really good. Will surely try.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Heck yeah... try it with coconut aminos and sesame seeds on the rice some time... it's next level!
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    If you want to go nexter level, get the Trader Joes Furikake (or another furikake from asian market)

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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    If you want to go nexter level, get the Trader Joes Furikake (or another furikake from asian market)

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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    No, but you should probably be aware that most of the the fat in mayo is from added oils.
    good point. i only buy primalkitchen chip lime mayo
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