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    Everyone here works out, but how many of you have that "overall" look.

    Yeah I am being a cheeky bastard, but at 57 and looking this good I have every right to brag. If you don't post a pic and you just hating, STFU and keep it moving!

    Yeah I have that look, stop hating..
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    I don't but I am getting there! I certainly don't object to the 'look' but it's not my goal right now. Of course you've seen plenty of pics/vids of me, and while I don't have a bodybuilder look, on the street no one ever messes with me. I think its both the treestump shape I have as well as the nonverbal confidence.
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    I don't but I am getting there! I certainly don't object to the 'look' but it's not my goal right now. Of course you've seen plenty of pics/vids of me, and while I don't have a bodybuilder look, on the street no one ever messes with me. I think its both the treestump shape I have as well as the nonverbal confidence.
    Man I know I look mean but I wasn't referring to looking like no one would mess with you I meant you know that, "This guys definitely takes good care of himself" look. The whole build and good hygiene appearance, my bad if I stated it wrong.
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    I hold 5th dan in DYEL

    Sad to say, although sometime it is inwardly amusing to me. The most extreme example was just a couple of weeks ago, now I don't have any big numbers or strength to brag about, this isn't some humble brag but I was in a rack, empty bar squatting up and down as only just walked in the gym and a guy of a similar height but way more solid looking asks if I have many sets left (what??? the gym has only been open about 5 minutes, literally!) so I suggest he works in he does some air squats and then puts a plate on each side so that's 60kg (132.3lbs for those who like weird American numbers) and does a few squats. I walk up and get under the bar and he looked at me with a look of genuine anxiety and concern to check I'm OK with it, he looked worried. Honestly... I am not exaggerating here in any shape or form.
    I smile and say I'm OK thanks and squat up and down getting the blood flowing in legs

    he then adds a second plate (100Kg / 220.5lbs) and does 5 reps and steps out and immediately I step in the rack and as I'm about to take the bar he literally shouts and runs back in panic "Wait... Wait.. I haven't taken it off yet". I just smile, shoulder the bar and squat. I think he almost fainted in shock. Now to repeat I don't do hundreds of reps or squat big numbers, but I do look very very DYEL
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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    I hold 5th dan in DYEL

    Sad to say, although sometime it is inwardly amusing to me. The most extreme example was just a couple of weeks ago, now I don't have any big numbers or strength to brag about, this isn't some humble brag but I was in a rack, empty bar squatting up and down as only just walked in the gym and a guy of a similar height but way more solid looking asks if I have many sets left (what??? the gym has only been open about 5 minutes, literally!) so I suggest he works in he does some air squats and then puts a plate on each side so that's 60kg (132.3lbs for those who like weird American numbers) and does a few squats. I walk up and get under the bar and he looked at me with a look of genuine anxiety and concern to check I'm OK with it, he looked worried. Honestly... I am not exaggerating here in any shape or form.
    I smile and say I'm OK thanks and squat up and down getting the blood flowing in legs

    he then adds a second plate (100Kg / 220.5lbs) and does 5 reps and steps out and immediately I step in the rack and as I'm about to take the bar he literally shouts and runs back in panic "Wait... Wait.. I haven't taken it off yet". I just smile, shoulder the bar and squat. I think he almost fainted in shock. Now to repeat I don't do hundreds of reps or squat big numbers, but I do look very very DYEL
    I have the same problem when I get dressed, I fcking hate it. I want t get big (not fat) to the point that you can tell I lift when I am wearing a long dress shirt, not fit as I already have that look when I am dressed, but big, which I don't currently have that look
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    Man I know I look mean but I wasn't referring to looking like no one would mess with you I meant you know that, "This guys definitely takes good care of himself" look. The whole build and good hygiene appearance, my bad if I stated it wrong.
    Correct. I was saying you DO look that way ('like you take care of yourself') and I don't... but I'm getting there.
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    Correct. I was saying you DO look that way ('like you take care of yourself') and I don't... but I'm getting there.
    You're too hard on yourself man, seriously. You have one of the better builds on here for real.
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    You don’t have to be super big to look like you lift when in clothes. Proportions are more important than a lot of size.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    You don’t have to be super big to look like you lift when in clothes. Proportions are more important than a lot of size.
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    You're too hard on yourself man, seriously. You have one of the better builds on here for real.
    You are kind and I appreciate it. I do feel like I am getting there!

    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    You don’t have to be super big to look like you lift when in clothes. Proportions are more important than a lot of size.
    Sure, that is true in general... unless the clothes are tight most muscles dont really pop - maybe a big neck, and the obvious absence of a big belly.

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    Da feel is more important than da look.
    Of course that is 100% true. Looks is the icing on da cake. Well, since I'm not really a fan of cake... or most icing.... maybe the toppings on the ice cream!
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    You are kind and I appreciate it. I do feel like I am getting there!


    Sure, that is true in general... unless the clothes are tight most muscles dont really pop - maybe a big neck, and the obvious absence of a big belly.


    Haters welcome - but you are a pretend hater clearly!


    Of course that is 100% true. Looks is the icing on da cake. Well, since I'm not really a fan of cake... or most icing.... maybe the toppings on the ice cream!
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    I meant you know that, "This guys definitely takes good care of himself" look. The whole build and good hygiene appearance.
    I've never had the massiv bodybuilder look. I don't have the thickness or muscle belly for it. I have looked like I train regularly for many, many years. Probably since I was 17 or so. I started at 13.

    It has heavily influenced my life; interactions; doors opening, etc. I took me alot of years to learn to carry it properly too. You can't make it the lead or only card in your deck.

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    I think people can tell I train for the most part, but I can and do hide it at times.

    Carrying more fat allows you to have the look in clothes like you lift. Being leaner allows you to hide it pretty well, but people overwhelmingly know you train when you are wearing anything that shows, even a fitted t shirt.

    Dont wear tank tops much in public any more. I think I am a little too in shape for tanks and for public outings, it is a little too much. (outside a gym environment). I wear a lot of t-shirts and dont necessarily want the attention a tank top brings. I am almost 50, and dont feel like having everyone think I am a freak...and I am not even that big. But I guess big enough that people would probably all draw the wrong conclusions....most of which are negative.
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    I think people can tell I train for the most part, but I can and do hide it at times.

    Carrying more fat allows you to have the look in clothes like you lift. Being leaner allows you to hide it pretty well, but people overwhelmingly know you train when you are wearing anything that shows, even a fitted t shirt.

    Dont wear tank tops much in public any more. I think I am a little too in shape for tanks and for public outings, it is a little too much. (outside a gym environment). I wear a lot of t-shirts and dont necessarily want the attention a tank top brings. I am almost 50, and dont feel like having everyone think I am a freak...and I am not even that big. But I guess big enough that people would probably all draw the wrong conclusions....most of which are negative.


    We used to train and compete in strongman with a national level bb’er he was lean 275# of course that was his off season weight. We went to outback once and I watch people looking at him and they made faces many people were freaked out. That would be so cool to get those reactions. The thing was though is that he was on the sauce.

    He stopped using the sauce and is very very lean at 225 but he has a softball of a bicep.

    He has had both knees replaced from training before he even hit age 40.
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    We used to train and compete in strongman with a national level bb’er he was lean 275# of course that was his off season weight. We went to outback once and I watch people looking at him and they made faces many people were freaked out. That would be so cool to get those reactions. The thing was though is that he was on the sauce.

    He stopped using the sauce and is very very lean at 225 but he has a softball of a bicep.

    He has had both knees replaced from training before he even hit age 40.
    Most people who use the sauce heavily you can see thier build through thier freaking sweatshirts!
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    ...He has had both knees replaced from training before he even hit age 40.
    At the same time "vitamins" help muscles they are also encouraging the body to remove collagen from the joints, ligaments and tendons. That isn't progress. maybe he'd have had knee issues anyway, but it can't have helped him!
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    At the same time "vitamins" help muscles they are also encouraging the body to remove collagen from the joints, ligaments and tendons. That isn't progress. maybe he'd have had knee issues anyway, but it can't have helped him!
    I didn't know that. Yet another stellar side effect of taking vitamin S. I would have thought the male pattern baldness was enough to turn people off.
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    At the same time "vitamins" help muscles they are also encouraging the body to remove collagen from the joints, ligaments and tendons. That isn't progress. maybe he'd have had knee issues anyway, but it can't have helped him!
    I think that is why many who are "on" get tears.
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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    At the same time "vitamins" help muscles they are also encouraging the body to remove collagen from the joints, ligaments and tendons. That isn't progress. maybe he'd have had knee issues anyway, but it can't have helped him!

    Yes, the muscles become stronger and tendons remain weak or don’t catch up.

    He was also competing in national bb’ing, had he just taken time off probably been ok but the promoters in these sports make it so everyone is overtrained, same thing in strongman, you don’t get to compete in the big show unless you have destroyed your body in all the other shows, it’s all about money on the promoters end.

    I first met that guy at age 21-22 we are both same age, my friend married his sister. At age 21 he was using and was 240ish repping 5 plates in the deads.

    His internet fans used to donate money to him so he could compete in shows.
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    I didn't know that. Yet another stellar side effect of taking vitamin S. I would have thought the male pattern baldness was enough to turn people off.

    MPB will get you regardless. If you have it in your genes, it will get you regardless of what you do. I think having additional androgens, will just speed up that process. Plenty of guys using boat loads with Wayne newton hair, and plenty of guys who never touched it, bald at 25. MPB is what it is. If you have it, it will just speed up the inevitible.

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    I think that is why many who are "on" get tears.
    I have seen lots of newbs get injured because they get strong way too quickly. I think this has a lot to do with it. I have seen differing research on suppression of collagen, but then some says otherwise. I think most tears, are either people rushing, or when you start moving large weights, muscles / tendon tear natural or not. Not many pec tears in 135lb benchers. 400+lb benches, you see it a lot more.

    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Yes, the muscles become stronger and tendons remain weak or don’t catch up.

    At age 21 he was using and was 240ish repping 5 plates in the deads.

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    I am not sure if that is/was impressive. But sounds fairly avg to me and kinda weak comparatively. Certainly not anything you need AAS to accomplish. Sounds like a waste of AAS or strong over-reliance on it making a mediocre potential, maybe just above avg, but certainly not elite level strength.
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    MPB will get you regardless. If you have it in your genes, it will get you regardless of what you do. I think having additional androgens, will just speed up that process. Plenty of guys using boat loads with Wayne newton hair, and plenty of guys who never touched it, bald at 25. MPB is what it is. If you have it, it will just speed up the inevitible.
    I was looking to verify what OldFartTom said when I saw that MPB was one of the many side effects. I never did find what he said about collagen, though.
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    I was looking to verify what OldFartTom said when I saw that MPB was one of the many side effects. I never did find what he said about collagen, though.
    Crazy on my tiktok page I have guys claiming I am on Tren, TRT, Anavar, Dbol massive and massive amounts of AS. I just take it as a compliment.
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    MPB will get you regardless. If you have it in your genes, it will get you regardless of what you do. I think having additional androgens, will just speed up that process. Plenty of guys using boat loads with Wayne newton hair, and plenty of guys who never touched it, bald at 25. MPB is what it is. If you have it, it will just speed up the inevitible.



    I have seen lots of newbs get injured because they get strong way too quickly. I think this has a lot to do with it. I have seen differing research on suppression of collagen, but then some says otherwise. I think most tears, are either people rushing, or when you start moving large weights, muscles / tendon tear natural or not. Not many pec tears in 135lb benchers. 400+lb benches, you see it a lot more.



    I am not sure if that is/was impressive. But sounds fairly avg to me and kinda weak comparatively. Certainly not anything you need AAS to accomplish. Sounds like a waste of AAS or strong over-reliance on it making a mediocre potential, maybe just above avg, but certainly not elite level strength.

    My moms father was bald, just like me and that’s what they say, sure enough I’m bald as chit. My dad still has Frank Zappa hair just more grey now.

    When I say repping 5 plates, that means a warm up. He’s not a power lifter at all but he did do AM strongman contests and blew everyone away, miles away.

    275# and just about 6’ tall with a 6 pack is what the guy achieved, I found it unfortunate that he used gear though.
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    I know the guy was routinely dead lifting in the 700s in his mid - late 20s that’s when he weighed 275 lean.

    He stopped using when he started having kids and shrunk to 220s but shredded however he didn’t have that full look when wearing shirts anymore.
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