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    Copsucker Back the Blue Conservatives....

    ...still trust gubmint??

    Open your eyes. Look at the Texas shooting massacre. Cops did nothing.

    It has been ruled constitutionally twice that cops do not have to protect lives. Cops exist to blindly follow orders of the oligarchs. Cops work for politicians who illegally pass unconstitutional laws that cops are obligated to blindly follow. It's the truth.

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    Didn't a border patrol cop kill the shooter.
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    The cops were doing something. The only thing they seem to know how to do. They were harassing citizens and cowering in fear.

    While the gunman was murdering children for over an hour, 30 or more police, wearing body armor and carrying assault rifles, were outside the school harassing the parents, demanding ID, and pepper spraying families. On the video you can clearly hear cops abusing family members while a gunman in the school murders children.

    The Sheriff said that he was reluctant to send in his officers for fear they would get hurt

    The officers actively prevented family members from rescuing their children.

    The police aided the killer.


    I have lost all respect for American law enforcement over the last couple years. In fact, I despise police.
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    And yet we repeatedly see that when police forces are defunded in areas or chunks of the force leave, the crime goes up and quality of life goes down.




    Lmao at “bad things happen sometimes so police are useless”.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    And yet we repeatedly see that when police forces are defunded in areas or chunks of the force leave, the crime goes up and quality of life goes down.




    Lmao at “bad things happen sometimes so police are useless”.
    I didn't suggest police are useless. I am suggesting they are a force for harm.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    I didn't suggest police are useless. I am suggesting they are a force for harm.
    Ok, yet whenever police forces are decreased quality of life in the area also decreases. That isn’t debatable, regardless of whatever video you saw that triggered an emotional response in you.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Ok, yet whenever police forces are decreased in the area also decreases.
    Not where I live. We lost half our police force during covid and had no change in quality of life at all.

    In fact, I think you made up that little "fact" of yours.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Ok, yet whenever police forces are decreased quality of life in the area also decreases. That isn’t debatable, regardless of whatever video you saw that triggered an emotional response in you.
    Lets do some facts....
    The Buffalo police budget for 2021 was 83 million (+/-).
    It was reduced by $750,000.
    Was that $750,000 the difference between life and death and knowing that this kid was driving 3 hours from suburbia to kill old people.
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    Police have their roles in life and in general I think their duties should include protection of citizens who require it, investigate crimes, etc. Far too many are simply revenue enhancers who will gladly harass and ticket people for the most minor of bs offenses.
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    Police have their roles in life and in general I think their duties should include protection of citizens who require it, investigate crimes, etc. Far too many are simply revenue enhancers who will gladly harass and ticket people for the most minor of bs offenses.
    In this area( Arlington VA) it was leaked that there was a quota for revenue enhancers...
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    In this area( Arlington VA) it was leaked that there was a quota for revenue enhancers...
    Every department has their quotas but they ALL deny it, you can see it in their yearly budget where it actually spells out where some of the revenue is coming in from "enforcement".
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    Not where I live. We lost half our police force during covid and had no change in quality of life at all.

    In fact, I think you made up that little "fact" of yours.
    There are exceptions to every rule, and if you’re actually at Fort Bragg I’d say there’s a good reason your area wasn’t as impacted by reduction in police forces as other areas. It’s no secret what has happened in cities all over the country that demanded defunding of police.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    In this area( Arlington VA) it was leaked that there was a quota for revenue enhancers...
    You know there is a x cop I every city that tells this very story.

    The reasons why quality of life declines in places like NYC when the police are less present is because gubmit puts the fear in the citizens that if they defend themselves they go to prison.

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    They didn't want to get shot per their spokesperson. Firemen will now not enter burning buildings over the fear of getting burned.
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    ... In fact, I despise police.
    often police do a great job and some of the A holes out there I occasionally see remind me to be pleased to have police. But I do hate Some police, and those guys definitely made that list

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    One good guy with a borrowed shotgun.
    I hope he gets a medal and they make the police chief give it to him in front of all the police

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    They didn't want to get shot per their spokesperson. Firemen will now not enter burning buildings over the fear of getting burned.
    After the Ariana Grande bombing the victims were left bleeding out for 45 mins to an hour in some cases. The firemen were desperate to get in to help the victims and the police prevented them for "safety reasons" there were even physical fights. I've no reason to question the average fireman for bravery
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    Not where I live. We lost half our police force during covid and had no change in quality of life at all.

    In fact, I think you made up that little "fact" of yours.
    Good for you, doesn't mean that point of his isn't true elsewhere.

    Here in Portland my quality of life has dramatically gone done since our leaders decided to pander to the woke mob, blm and the "defund" the police movement.

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    Good for you, doesn't mean that point of his isn't true elsewhere.

    Here in Portland my quality of life has dramatically gone done since our leaders decided to pander to the woke mob, blm and the "defund" the police movement.

    Its not just about you and where you live.
    Who cares? Move if you don't like it. Or don't move and whine about it. Either way, I don't GAS about Portland or Portland's problems.
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    Originally Posted by iamanalphamale View Post
    Good for you, doesn't mean that point of his isn't true elsewhere.

    Here in Portland my quality of life has dramatically gone done since our leaders decided to pander to the woke mob, blm and the "defund" the police movement.

    Its not just about you and where you live.
    from the budget of Portland

    $1.4 million to create Community Safety Transition program
    $978,000 to fully fund the Portland Street Response pilot
    $4 million, starting in Fiscal Year 2022-23, for new police oversight board
    $1.8 million for 22 new community service officers, or Public Safety Support Specialists
    $2.4 million to prevent a fire station closure
    Almost $9 million in ongoing cuts to the police bureau
    $294,000 to the Office of Violence Prevention, in addition to the $5.9 million Council previously committed to an immediate gun violence response
    $5.3 million in one-time resources to prevent a patrol officer shortage in Fiscal Year 2022-23
    $475,000 to support compliance with the Department of Justice agreement
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    its like a giant contradiction. Trust police and give up your guns. Then Its don’t trust the police and give up your guns.

    So which is it? Do we have a right to protect ourselves or not? The left is sweating trying to decide…
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    Who cares? Move if you don't like it. Or don't move and whine about it. Either way, I don't GAS about Portland or Portland's problems.
    Lol, then why bother telling us that the way of life hasn't changed everywhere just because yours didn't.

    I was proving your post wrong & then you hit me with this message trying to come off as some tough guy on the internet? JFLOL.

    Also, just up and moving doesn't always work for everyone.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    from the budget of Portland

    $1.4 million to create Community Safety Transition program
    $978,000 to fully fund the Portland Street Response pilot
    $4 million, starting in Fiscal Year 2022-23, for new police oversight board
    $1.8 million for 22 new community service officers, or Public Safety Support Specialists
    $2.4 million to prevent a fire station closure
    Almost $9 million in ongoing cuts to the police bureau
    $294,000 to the Office of Violence Prevention, in addition to the $5.9 million Council previously committed to an immediate gun violence response
    $5.3 million in one-time resources to prevent a patrol officer shortage in Fiscal Year 2022-23
    $475,000 to support compliance with the Department of Justice agreement
    Cool, do you also know that a majority of the police, since 2020 and the defund movement, don't even bother doing their jobs most of the time?

    They can have all the budget in the world now, but crime has still gone up here because they're not willing to get screwed over by the leadership that we have in Portland, and especially, Oregon.

    Few friends are cops here in Portland and they've told me that if its a POC, they don't bother.
    Not because of any bias towards them, but they'd like to keep their jobs and not have to deal with the mental gymnastics that comes from trying to do their jobs properly.

    Because of all this, even with funding, this place has gotten worse.
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    So liberals don't like police and they want to remove guns from law abiding citizens........almost like they are Pro Crime & Pro Criminal
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    Also, I want to just add this out as a concept that we may be forgetting after 2020 and you can have your own opinion on it as well - just my two cents.

    Maybe the reason we are seeing so many bad cops come out of the woodwork is because the good ones, the ones actually upholding the duties they signed up for, are gone or in the shadows now.

    With all these blue states and the left cheering on to "de-fund" the police, a lot of them just don't want to get caught losing their jobs, their pensions or worse, arrested and jailed themselves.
    I back the blue, but I back the ones that are there to do their jobs and uphold the promise they made to themselves and us.

    Funny how other professions that can kill people aren't blamed for the small percentage of bad that there is within their groups, but all cops get labeled based on the small minority.

    Anyways, that's all I have to say on that.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    The cops were doing something. The only thing they seem to know how to do. They were harassing citizens and cowering in fear.

    While the gunman was murdering children for over an hour, 30 or more police, wearing body armor and carrying assault rifles, were outside the school harassing the parents, demanding ID, and pepper spraying families. On the video you can clearly hear cops abusing family members while a gunman in the school murders children.

    The Sheriff said that he was reluctant to send in his officers for fear they would get hurt

    The officers actively prevented family members from rescuing their children.

    The police aided the killer.


    I have lost all respect for American law enforcement over the last couple years. In fact, I despise police.

    I watched in confusion the summer of 2020 while those Marxist bastards, blm and antifa basically raped, pillaged and murdered innocents in cities across America and the police who are to protect and serve,basically did nothing but stand around and watch and take orders from those above them that are part of this nefarious cabal, I was astounded that they( police and other agencies) didn’t move in en masse and start arresting and neutralizing the threats, it was , you’re on your own now, deal with it, and virtually nothing at all happened to the perpetrators of chaos, still!

    Something is dramatically wrong to say the least
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    I was proving your post wrong & then you hit me with this message trying to come off as some tough guy on the internet? JFLOL.
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    Originally Posted by iamanalphamale View Post
    Also, I want to just add this out as a concept that we may be forgetting after 2020 and you can have your own opinion on it as well - just my two cents.

    Maybe the reason we are seeing so many bad cops come out of the woodwork is because the good ones, the ones actually upholding the duties they signed up for, are gone or in the shadows now.

    With all these blue states and the left cheering on to "de-fund" the police, a lot of them just don't want to get caught losing their jobs, their pensions or worse, arrested and jailed themselves.
    I back the blue, but I back the ones that are there to do their jobs and uphold the promise they made to themselves and us.

    Funny how other professions that can kill people aren't blamed for the small percentage of bad that there is within their groups, but all cops get labeled based on the small minority.

    Anyways, that's all I have to say on that.
    Media also exaggerates too.

    That said, it’s the same as before. Just like the woke wave spreading through the military, it demoralizes individuals and makes less fierce when fighting for their country and the innocent. Why protect a corrupt people? Why risk your life? Make individuals doubt themselves, hold them to lower standards, convince them to discriminate against whites…it’s now a fact that a majority of officers are more likely, even more “comfortable”, shooting whites than minorities
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    Media also exaggerates too.
    Its why we have the situation in Texas - most of those cops probably improperly trained, not suited for the job mentally or physically, bad cops in general or a mixture of all or some.

    More than likely there were good cops in the mix that could have done better or there were, but they quit.

    Just because its Texas doesn't mean cops are given a free pass from the Liberal MSM - in fact, they're probably more on the chopping blocks for being in red states/cities.
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    Do you know how to have a discussion or do you just revert to petty insults when you're wrong? Seems to be a pattern with a lot of you on this forum.
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