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    He has a nice physique I watch his videos. I think the key is being very very consistent with your diet and calories and of course all the supplements. But imo it's mainly being consistent with your diet and calories to be shredded/bulk.
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    Originally Posted by BeastmodeLEE View Post
    I knew the main purpose of paying expensive gym memberships at one-off hardcore gyms and paying for expensive coaches was to be able to gain access to the member with special vitamins for sale.

    I’m not trolling. My best friend looked just like Sadik - he’s pictured in one of my previous posts a few years ago. He died a few years ago as well, but he would train with all of us. 5 ft 8” 150lbs and could put up 315 (3 45s on each side) plates on bench, max out the cable fly machine, was shredded to the bone, Boulder shoulders, it was insane. Our group could never find out if he was truly natty.

    So that is why I have the goal of achieving Sadik’s physique - in memory of my friend. It has always been that way.



    This is a good answer
    Uh… if your friend was 5-8 and 150, it’s literally impossible he looked like him.

    And it’s not just about his weight, it’s also the shape and roundness of the muscles, how little water his skin holds, and how ‘full’ he is while lean.

    An even better reason is because: he CAN

    He literally makes his money based purely on looks in an untested org… so WHY would he remain natural and make it as hard as possible for himself to make as much money as possible ?
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Have you been writing the fortune cookies for PF Changs?
    That's his special talent.
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
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    *Slightly modified movie reference and will rep if identified*

    "Words of wisdom, Paul. Words. of. wisdom."
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    All it takes is consistency, effort, proper nutrition, good programming, and TIME.

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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    Take this with a grain of salt:

    https://broscience.com/sadik-hadzovic/



    What are you saying? It's impossible to do this without special vitamins in four years? If that is the case I accept it, and it means my idols like Brad Castleberry and Sadik are taking orals. I live in the same city as Brad and have seen him in my local gyms on occasion, the weight he puts up is real.

    I look at the Bev Francis Gym instagram in New York where all the east coast IFBB competitors train. The vascularity, the shred, the muscle fullness, are you telling me they are all not natty?

    I posted an image of the friend I am talking about about two years ago on BB.com, but because the search function doesn't work I can't find the post, If anyone can find and repost it here it would be much appreciated.

    A friend of a friend just started working with a lady who happens to be a bodybuilder, nutritionist, and trainer in her free time. I am seriously considering hiring this person, not because I need someone to check in with at the end of each day to make sure I didn't have a bite of cheesecake, but to unlock my genetic potential.
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    Originally Posted by BeastmodeLEE View Post
    What are you saying? It's impossible to do this without special vitamins in four years? If that is the case I accept it, and it means my idols like Brad Castleberry and Sadik are taking orals. I live in the same city as Brad and have seen him in my local gyms on occasion, the weight he puts up is real.

    I look at the Bev Francis Gym instagram in New York where all the east coast IFBB competitors train. The vascularity, the shred, the muscle fullness, are you telling me they are all not natty?

    I posted an image of the friend I am talking about about two years ago on BB.com, but because the search function doesn't work I can't find the post, If anyone can find and repost it here it would be much appreciated.

    A friend of a friend just started working with a lady who happens to be a bodybuilder, nutritionist, and trainer in her free time. I am seriously considering hiring this person, not because I need someone to check in with at the end of each day to make sure I didn't have a bite of cheesecake, but to unlock my genetic potential.
    For someone who knows so little about bodybuilding secrets, you seem to have a lot of friends who are bodybuilders.

    Try searching your phone or computer for pics of your best friend to repost, rather than this site’s search function.
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    Weird troll

    Decent trolling but a little too persistent

    6/10 on the scale where the veggie guy is a 1 and the Vince Gironda Hormone Precursor Shake thread is a 10
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    Weird troll

    Decent trolling but a little too persistent

    6/10 on the scale where the veggie guy is a 1 and the Vince Gironda Hormone Precursor Shake thread is a 10
    Nah, this dude's a solid 7/10 troll. He sucked me into the debate & got me SOOOO close to Negging him, but by the time he posted Sadik sitting at his computer, I wanted to rep him. He also got this thing going for 3 full pages, & despite throwing out ridiculous stats like his friend being 5'8 and 150 lbs & having multiple people correct him, it kept going.

    I agree wth you tho, that past a point his persistence made him fall short. He's obviously not a 10/10 VGHPS troll, but commendable effort.
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    Wait, this possibility just occurred to me: has the concept of a forum troll been a Monty Python reference the whole time?
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    Originally Posted by BeastmodeLEE View Post
    What are you saying? It's impossible to do this without special vitamins in four years? If that is the case I accept it, and it means my idols like Brad Castleberry and Sadik are taking orals. I live in the same city as Brad and have seen him in my local gyms on occasion, the weight he puts up is real.

    I look at the Bev Francis Gym instagram in New York where all the east coast IFBB competitors train. The vascularity, the shred, the muscle fullness, are you telling me they are all not natty?

    I posted an image of the friend I am talking about about two years ago on BB.com, but because the search function doesn't work I can't find the post, If anyone can find and repost it here it would be much appreciated.

    A friend of a friend just started working with a lady who happens to be a bodybuilder, nutritionist, and trainer in her free time. I am seriously considering hiring this person, not because I need someone to check in with at the end of each day to make sure I didn't have a bite of cheesecake, but to unlock my genetic potential.
    Oh they're taking more than orals dude.... zero question about that.
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    Oh they're taking more than orals dude.... zero question about that.
    That’s homophobic!
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    That’s homophobic!
    Not really, they both identify as non-binary hamsters... their pronouns are it/thing/stuff
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    I commend OP's dedication to his craft. He's been posting nonsense for years.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    *Slightly modified movie reference and will rep if identified*

    "Words of wisdom, Paul. Words. of. wisdom."
    Some Beatles movie where they performed "Let It Be".
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    Some Beatles movie where they performed "Let It Be".
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Have you been writing the fortune cookies for PF Changs?
    "Lost forever. Like tears in the rain"

    Where is that movie quote from? No cheating. That movie is studied in college art classes.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Not really, they both identify as non-binary hamsters... their pronouns are it/thing/stuff
    I think you mean gerbils
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    "Lost forever. Like tears in the rain"

    Where is that movie quote from? No cheating. That movie is studied in college art classes.
    I immediately thought of Rutger Hauer.
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    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post
    Nah, this dude's a solid 7/10 troll. He sucked me into the debate & got me SOOOO close to Negging him, but by the time he posted Sadik sitting at his computer, I wanted to rep him. He also got this thing going for 3 full pages, & despite throwing out ridiculous stats like his friend being 5'8 and 150 lbs & having multiple people correct him, it kept going.

    I agree wth you tho, that past a point his persistence made him fall short. He's obviously not a 10/10 VGHPS troll, but commendable effort.
    Dude I've been here since 2018 I'm not trolling. I've never paid for a coach in my life, I go to the gym by myself and work my ass off every time in memory of my friend. I have to dig around for the picture, I will post it later tonight. Based off this thread it seems I have reached the end of the road for natty gains. I am very interested in the next steps and Reddit seems to be the only place that facilitates the answers.
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    Originally Posted by BeastmodeLEE View Post
    Dude I've been here since 2018 I'm not trolling. I've never paid for a coach in my life, I go to the gym by myself and work my ass off every time in memory of my friend. I have to dig around for the picture, I will post it later tonight. Based off this thread it seems I have reached the end of the road for natty gains. I am very interested in the next steps and Reddit seems to be the only place that facilitates the answers.
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    Originally Posted by BeastmodeLEE View Post
    Dude I've been here since 2018 I'm not trolling. I've never paid for a coach in my life, I go to the gym by myself and work my ass off every time in memory of my friend. I have to dig around for the picture, I will post it later tonight. Based off this thread it seems I have reached the end of the road for natty gains. I am very interested in the next steps and Reddit seems to be the only place that facilitates the answers.
    Just because you’ve lifted for four years doesn’t mean your gains are tapped out… nobody said that.

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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    I immediately thought of Rutger Hauer.
    Ding ding ding. Winner
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    Originally Posted by BeastmodeLEE View Post
    Based off this thread it seems I have reached the end of the road for natty gains..
    I think you are correct. I've been here since September of 2018 when I started lifting again. I'm in the same boat as you.
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    One month ago:
    Originally Posted by BeastmodeLEE View Post
    Been doing the same chest/tri back/bi legs split 5+ times a week for 4 years, yet I've had people on BB tell me I look like I've never been in a gym.

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    Based off this thread it seems I have reached the end of the road for natty gains.
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