Looking for a new career that pays 150k+? GTFIH (HIRING!!)

[Jaydawg08]

FAA Air Traffic Controller Summer Hiring Announcement OTS (Off The Street): June 24-27, 2022

https://pointsixtyfive.com/xenforo/threads/hiring.4706/

https://pointsixtyfive.com/xenforo/w...cess_overview/

^^This is a good website to get started on what the hiring process generally looks like, and what you can expect




What is Air Traffic control?

Basically these are the people who are either in a tower, or a government building that talk to planes/pilots and give them clearances for takeoff.. clear them to land.. move them around weather.. basically make sure that everyone in the sky doesn't hit one another.

How much can I make with ATC?

Generally even a low level tower (think of a tiny airport near you) will make 100k+ with overtime and different differentials. But the real $$ is going to be made at either a bigger tower aka bigger airport... or with a Tracon or Center. These are the locations that cover all the other airspace in the US around the bigger airports. Think of when you're flying above the clouds 30,000 ft above the air, these are the people who are talking to the commercial airlines or even the GA pilots that take off from middle of now where airports. Once you are done with training, you will make 160k+ with increases in pay yearly.

What do I gotta do in order to get hired?

You have to input your resume on USAJobs.. and find the announcement when the days happen. To find an announcement, search for job series "2152", and make sure U.S. Citizens is marked in the "who may apply box". The job title is Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee, and the announcement number will be something like "FAA-ATO-16-ALLSRCE-49075". Note the "ALLSRCE", this indicates the "no experience" bid. The FAA also announces its internal bids on usajobs; if you SEE these, they are not hiring announcements for NEW hires.

What qualifications do I need?

You need to either have a 4 year degree.. a 2 year degree with 1-2 years full time work experience.. or 3 years full time work experience. You also need to be UNDER 31 YEARS OLD.

What happens after I apply?

You will wait for an email and set up a time for a test that you need to pass in order to get to the next step.. in this test there is basically a bunch of "games" and math problems that you need to do well on. Things like "separating multiple dots on a screen while also doing math problems".. and "memorizing 10 sets of numbers in order", etc. etc.

If you score high enough.. you then get an offer letter to go to Oklahoma City for 3-4 months (paid) for the FAA Academy where they teach you how to do the job in a smaller way. This part is actually pretty difficult. Won't sugar coat this part, but generally around 50% of the people who come here don't pass..... HOWEVER from what I've read they've done a much better job of being able to pass people on a more consistent basis, while also being able to pocket 3-4k while you're down there.



Why am I posting this on here?

I work in a Center.. and I'm at the bottom in terms of seniority. So anyone who generally wants to know more. Let me know.. I'll bump this as it gets closer

https://www.usajobs.gov/

^^WEBSITE





Tower environment:








Enroute (Center) Environment:

[JeffPesos]

I wish i knew about this career a few years ago srs. Tfw 33.

[Beast92]

Sounds like a job for drones, no hate

Also 150k is like 75k from 2010, fuk being middle class

[SoutheastBeast1]

You've posted this before. Somehow I feel like this is gonna wind up with some poor miscer in your basement doing weird sexual stuff to him.

[Jaydawg08]

You've posted this before. Somehow I feel like this is gonna wind up with some poor miscer in your basement doing weird sexual stuff to him.

Ive posted this for a couple of the OTS announcement over the past few years.. trying to get some of you miscers to go through this so I don't gotta worry about mandatory OT and can get longer breaks

FAA does a generally poor job of advertising for this career

[bfdehewdbyywhn]

Inb4 miscing while controlling air traffic

[Jaydawg08]

Sounds like a job for drones, no hate

Also 150k is like 75k from 2010, fuk being middle class

Would love to hear why you think the job is for drones . What makes you say that

[Smacker91]

This job typically gets a bad rep… why?

[Beast92]

Would love to hear why you think the job is for drones . What makes you say that

well u do the same sht for 30 years and then retire, you literally just monitor and direct planes while sitting in a tower cubicle

Other career tracks shift and evolve as u progress

[headturner1]

Targeted demographic here is too old op.

Plus, you’ve posted this chit before, just bump that.

Buddy told me about this job years ago, but I was 32 at the time oops

[Jaydawg08]

This job typically gets a bad rep… why?

The schedule isnt the best in terms of long term health.. what I mean by that is shift work is kinda weird, and the first 5-7 years of your career you'll be having Wed and Thursday as your "weekends"

You'll have a schedule that looks like this alot of times:

Saturday -- 3pm-11pm
Sunday -- 1pm-9pm
Monday -- 8am-4pm
Tuesday -- 5am-1pm.......

then you get time off before coming in that same night at 10pm until 6am on Wednesday morning .. basically means you get all of Wed off, Thur off, Fri off, half of Sat off

It's hard to learn, easily to do.. theres only random times where you're like "wtf... Get me out of here" on shift. Mostly it's due to weather or something really out of the ordinary

[Jaydawg08]

Targeted demographic here is too old op.

Plus, you’ve posted this chit before, just bump that.

Buddy told me about this job years ago, but I was 32 at the time oops

You don't like my thread then gtfo. I've had 4 people from this site make it to the FAA academy from what they've messaged me from my threads on this over the years. I'll take keep doing it

[tunafishha]

Who gives a chit if you make 150k a year. You'll be a loser air traffic controller. Lol.

[exxtracool]

that seems stressful as fuk brother.


also, i really hate the idea of miscers controlling airspace so maybe stay safe with advertising it here lol.

[headturner1]

You don't like my thread then gtfo. I've had 4 people from this site make it to the FAA academy from what they've messaged me from my threads on this over the years. I'll take keep doing it

I’m just saying I remember some big thread you had (and it seems recent), so I’m not sure why a new one is necessary.

That being said, take the free bump and shove it kunt.

[cjr169]

We need a Timmy air traffic controller vs chad pilot graphic

[turk75]

You don't like my thread then gtfo. I've had 4 people from this site make it to the FAA academy from what they've messaged me from my threads on this over the years. I'll take keep doing it

On tonight's episode of chit that never happened! it's:



Sit down & stfu you grocery bagging twink.

[johnnydeep1]

I can't work at an airport. Too much nostalgia at airports. I can't see myself working or living in an airport everyday

[radrd]

I read somewhere that it's one of the most stressful jobs. Not sure why. I'd try it if I was younger and single.

[tunafishha]

I can't work at an airport. Too much nostalgia at airports. I can't see myself working or living in an airport everyday

I love airports. But can't see myself working at one either. Lol

[Mountaineer92]

what do you do when your working a shift and gotta rly take a chit tho

[propreffered7]

ever been in a room where someone fuked up bad?

and what kind of "bad" is it? is it like planes crashing into each other or is it more like poor instructions and then a bad accident from being told visually wrong cues or something?

[Johnez]

But why tf the age limit?

[Jaydawg08]

what do you do when your working a shift and gotta rly take a chit tho

Thankfully never happened to me before lol. I always take chits in between breaks. But normally we are able to get breaks every hour or 1.5 so you better hold that chit if you gotta go I guess. I don't think you'd ever live it down if something like that happened where you almost chit yourself

ever been in a room where someone fuked up bad?

and what kind of "bad" is it? is it like planes crashing into each other or is it more like poor instructions and then a bad accident from being told visually wrong cues or something?

Sort of... I've been in the room where someone saw that there was gonna be a traffic confliction on a climbing aircraft at something like FL300 so he requested the previous sector to stop that guy at FL290 in order to resolve it. The guy in the other sector gave the "Oh no, this climbing aircraft will def get on top no worries" and this guy, being a younger controller who still is new and learning, believed him.. cause why would an experienced controller lie, he must have knowledge on this sort of thing.

Well turns out that his climb rate wasn't what it should have been and both controllers on different sectors then had to scramble and vector these 2 converging traffic aircraft away from each other. This is bad on high because everything moves fast, and you aren't always able to see "incoming" traffic from another sector. So you're giving traffic instructions to miss 1 aircraft, without being able to see potentially 5-7 OTHER aircraft that are incoming as well.

Just all around messy and a lesson in that, no matter how young (or old) you are you need to be confident and tell someone "Don't try and fix a traffic situation in my area, just stop him at FL290 like I fukn said and keep it moving"

I've had this happen to me before where I thought the next guy knew what he was talking about cause he was older and more experienced but it turned out to not be the correct decision.

But why tf the age limit?

It's because the max limit for the human brain to do this job (based on studies) is 56. I believe they want to give people 25 years worth of service in order to do it before retirement. You can retire at 50 if you want tho.

[Jaydawg08]

bump

[Airror]

I couldn't stand staring at a computer screen while sitting on my ass all day. I just can't.

[Jaydawg08]

I couldn't stand staring at a computer screen while sitting on my ass all day. I just can't.

It's only for about an hour to 1.5 and then you normally are getting 45 min to an hour breaks in between

People go watch tv, play chess or video games, go outside and for a walk, or bring a lawn chair and read.

[MikeLowrrrey]

I'm 31. Tours over was seriously thinking about applying.

Op I'll have to hit you up in regards to becoming a commercial pilot. There's a flight school like 10 minutes from me, gonna visit and at least talk to someone. Intro flight is like $59.

[MikeLowrrrey]

Who gives a chit if you make 150k a year. You'll be a loser air traffic controller. Lol.

Most of STEM won't touch $150k until 15 years minimum experience. And at that point you're probably putting in a ton of extra hours, responsibility, and more work.

[johnnydeep1]

Most of STEM won't touch $150k until 15 years minimum experience. And at that point you're probably putting in a ton of extra hours and more work.

Depends on the stem major.

Computer scientist or doctor= yes you will

Some foid with a biology degree= nope