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    I feel you on that WFH stuff.

    When you can just roll out of bed looking and feeling like crap and you know that no one will notice....

    And when you're super run down you can grab a nap for 30 min mid day.

    1 bottle of wine is about 5 unit drinks per day. That's not that bad at all. You probably don't even need to taper and can just go cold turkey. Or, if you want an easier transition just do half a bottle a day for a couple days. If you need to, clear the house of any alcohol and buy 1 bottle at a time. Come home and dump out half the bottle down the sink so you won't be tempted to over consume. Do the same the next day. It seems wasteful, but the $15 of wine going down the sink is nothing compared to what you'll save being sober.
    Thanks. I've been keeping no drink in the house for probably 1.5 years because if it is there, I can't seem to stop myself these days. I live 2mins walk from some off licenses which are open till 10pm now so it is still super accessible, it is a small place so people remember you so I've been rotating betwen 3 places to not look like a degen.

    Danger time is after finishing work when I feel like I 'deserve' a glass of wine, which then becomes the entire bottle. I don't live with my gf so I can basically do what I want during the week with no risk of comments. My sister had/has an eating disorder and she said things got really out of control when she lived alone as there was no one to have to appear normal around.

    Cold turkey should be OK, I just need to actually commit to it and stop making excuses. I feel like once I get to a week or so clear I'll probably manage.
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    Originally Posted by zknarc View Post
    Thanks. I've been keeping no drink in the house for probably 1.5 years because if it is there, I can't seem to stop myself these days. I live 2mins walk from some off licenses which are open till 10pm now so it is still super accessible, it is a small place so people remember you so I've been rotating betwen 3 places to not look like a degen.

    Danger time is after finishing work when I feel like I 'deserve' a glass of wine, which then becomes the entire bottle. I don't live with my gf so I can basically do what I want during the week with no risk of comments. My sister had/has an eating disorder and she said things got really out of control when she lived alone as there was no one to have to appear normal around.

    Cold turkey should be OK, I just need to actually commit to it and stop making excuses. I feel like once I get to a week or so clear I'll probably manage.
    I can relate to the things getting out of hand when living alone lol. Two pics below are my bedroom, those are all empty NOS cartridges. I live in sober living now

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    Originally Posted by Joeyw88 View Post
    I can relate to the things getting out of hand when living alone lol. Two pics below are my bedroom, those are all empty NOS cartridges. I live in sober living now

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    Thanks brah, I needed that today. I'm proud of everyone in this thread!! It's not easy and it's especially not easy to admit you have a problem and to share your struggles.
    Agreed.. We gonna make it brother. I mean that chit
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    Lol I would do one box of nangs and call it a day, and wouldn't do it again for 6 months. Haven't done it since my best friend died.

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    In. I think it was one of OP's other threads I subbed to the other day but it never got bumped. Saw this one has stickied.

    Got about 3.5 years now. I'm grateful for each day I choose to stay alcohol free.

    I was reading the above posts about HALT, and I once saw someone say the H stood for Horny. LOL. Maybe some truth to that too.
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    Originally Posted by jreacher View Post
    In. I think it was one of OP's other threads I subbed to the other day but it never got bumped. Saw this one has stickied.

    Got about 3.5 years now. I'm grateful for each day I choose to stay alcohol free.

    I was reading the above posts about HALT, and I once saw someone say the H stood for Horny. LOL. Maybe some truth to that too.
    Congrats on 3.5 years! And lol yeah horny can probably be a trigger haha.
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    tonight is 3 full days not alcohol. The last four weeks I have cut my consumption frequency by about 80%, so that's nice. Was drinking every day or 6 days a week beforehand.
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    tonight is 3 full days not alcohol. The last four weeks I have cut my consumption frequency by about 80%, so that's nice. Was drinking every day or 6 days a week beforehand.
    Hell yeah fantastic job on day 3!
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    tonight is 3 full days not alcohol. The last four weeks I have cut my consumption frequency by about 80%, so that's nice. Was drinking every day or 6 days a week beforehand.
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    2.5 years sober this last week. Hardest thing I ever had to to. Stay in there brothers. Always remember what like was like, and how it is now.
    Hell yeah! That’s a good amount of time! Yeah it’s not easy but it’s so worthwhile.
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    Thanks. I've been keeping no drink in the house for probably 1.5 years because if it is there, I can't seem to stop myself these days. I live 2mins walk from some off licenses which are open till 10pm now so it is still super accessible, it is a small place so people remember you so I've been rotating betwen 3 places to not look like a degen.

    Danger time is after finishing work when I feel like I 'deserve' a glass of wine, which then becomes the entire bottle. I don't live with my gf so I can basically do what I want during the week with no risk of comments. My sister had/has an eating disorder and she said things got really out of control when she lived alone as there was no one to have to appear normal around.

    Cold turkey should be OK, I just need to actually commit to it and stop making excuses. I feel like once I get to a week or so clear I'll probably manage.
    Man, I feel you on that "danger zone" time. That's exactly when I drink. I've managed to avoid drinking in the AM or even during the day, but those evening hours are killer.

    The few times I've gotten sober for weeks/months previously, something that really helped me was being busy and being out of the house.

    The second the work day was winding down, before or while the alcohol cravings were kicking in, I'd take pre-workout. Then I would hit the gym. Some days weren't even training days and I would go and stretch and meditate for a couple hours. ANYTHING to be out of the house and doing SOMETHING other than drinking.

    Then on the way home, if I was feeling especially vulnerable and didn't trust myself when I got home, I'd stop for Chipotle or something on the way home and fill myself with a massive dinner. Hard to want to drink when you get home if you've just finished a workout and eaten a triple meat, bean and veggie Burrito Bowl... no room for anything else.

    Sometimes I had no cravings and would come home and eat some scrambled eggs with toast and protein shake. But keeping myself busy at night and stuffing myself with high protein food before getting home was a life saver for avoiding drinking.

    I was doing really well on this until COVID hit. Then... no gym. No chipotle. WFH. It all spiraled.
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    Originally Posted by Joeyw88 View Post
    I can relate to the things getting out of hand when living alone lol. Two pics below are my bedroom, those are all empty NOS cartridges. I live in sober living now

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    I thought I was ready.... but as a very neat and tidy person I was not. Crikey.

    Jordan Peterson's Future Authoring program he gets people to paint an ideal future and also a bad future, what could happen if we let the weak/bad parts of ourselves rule the show. The idea is that you gets pulled towards the ideal version but importantly have something to run away from too. The picture certainly paints the latter one, stay strong.
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    Originally Posted by zknarc View Post
    I thought I was ready.... but as a very neat and tidy person I was not. Crikey.

    Jordan Peterson's Future Authoring program he gets people to paint an ideal future and also a bad future, what could happen if we let the weak/bad parts of ourselves rule the show. The idea is that you gets pulled towards the ideal version but importantly have something to run away from too. The picture certainly paints the latter one, stay strong.
    Lol yeah I was bad; my whole apartment was really bad. Someone came and helped me clean it up; after he took it to the scrapyard, there was almost $100 in scrap from the empty cartridges. And I like that ideology, I can imagine that being incredibly motivating as both a positive thing and avoidance of a negative thing.

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    Did not have a good day. Pretty much binge ate my afternoon/evening away.

    Keep doing this over and over and I’m frustrated every time.

    It’s like that cycle that Fat Bastard describes. “I eat because I’m unhappy and I’m unhappy because I eat”

    Seriously just stuck in a seriously bad cycle that I can’t break for some reason. Sticking to my meal plan used to be effortless but the wheels have completely come off the wagon over the last year. Just keeps getting worse and worse.

    Don’t know why I can’t get it together. I look and feel like sh*t and even though I know exactly what I need to do to fix it just continue to sabotage it.

    If I could string together 2 months of eating right I feel like I’d be back on track but I can’t even go a week without blowing it up.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Did not have a good day. Pretty much binge ate my afternoon/evening away.

    Keep doing this over and over and I’m frustrated every time.

    It’s like that cycle that Fat Bastard describes. “I eat because I’m unhappy and I’m unhappy because I eat”

    Seriously just stuck in a seriously bad cycle that I can’t break for some reason. Sticking to my meal plan used to be effortless but the wheels have completely come off the wagon over the last year. Just keeps getting worse and worse.

    Don’t know why I can’t get it together. I look and feel like sh*t and even though I know exactly what I need to do to fix it just continue to sabotage it.

    If I could string together 2 months of eating right I feel like I’d be back on track but I can’t even go a week without blowing it up.
    You know what needs to be done so commit to it and make it happen brah
    No one can make this change for you, only you can and you have an advantage over the average Joe because you know exactly what it takes to make the change.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Did not have a good day. Pretty much binge ate my afternoon/evening away.

    Keep doing this over and over and I’m frustrated every time.

    It’s like that cycle that Fat Bastard describes. “I eat because I’m unhappy and I’m unhappy because I eat”

    Seriously just stuck in a seriously bad cycle that I can’t break for some reason. Sticking to my meal plan used to be effortless but the wheels have completely come off the wagon over the last year. Just keeps getting worse and worse.

    Don’t know why I can’t get it together. I look and feel like sh*t and even though I know exactly what I need to do to fix it just continue to sabotage it.

    If I could string together 2 months of eating right I feel like I’d be back on track but I can’t even go a week without blowing it up.
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    Originally Posted by Krackerjacked View Post
    You know what needs to be done so commit to it and make it happen brah
    No one can make this change for you, only you can and you have an advantage over the average Joe because you know exactly what it takes to make the change.
    So saddle up and make it happen.

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    That’s what’s frustrating and honestly pathetic about it. I know it’s all on me. I don’t expect any post on here to solve it obviously. Maybe I’ll get it together from here but truthfully I really don’t know. I’d like to be confident in saying I got it but I’ve told myself over and over now is the time to forget about what’s happened and get on track going forward. And yet I’ve had to start over the same way feels like every week or 2 weeks of being on track then binge eating and wrecking it. I’m in a bad way. And yeah it’s on me to break it for sure
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    Originally Posted by NosyJossie View Post
    stop trolling my threads for starters...
    I’ll stop trolling your threads. Seriously mean it.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Did not have a good day. Pretty much binge ate my afternoon/evening away.

    Keep doing this over and over and I’m frustrated every time.

    It’s like that cycle that Fat Bastard describes. “I eat because I’m unhappy and I’m unhappy because I eat”

    Seriously just stuck in a seriously bad cycle that I can’t break for some reason. Sticking to my meal plan used to be effortless but the wheels have completely come off the wagon over the last year. Just keeps getting worse and worse.

    Don’t know why I can’t get it together. I look and feel like sh*t and even though I know exactly what I need to do to fix it just continue to sabotage it.

    If I could string together 2 months of eating right I feel like I’d be back on track but I can’t even go a week without blowing it up.
    Hey thanks for sharing your challenges with us today. Addiction in any form is extremely difficult and breaking that cycle can be so difficult. But it is doable and it does progressively get better as time goes on in recovery.

    I’ve had an up and down day myself. I have been continuing to feel physically unwell, like a general malaise although I can’t attribute it completely to being sick although it feels like I’ve been in a perpetual state of getting sick. But IOP was great and then had a good lunch and volunteer shift at the local recovery cafe. Then had a decent workout followed by a good AA meeting. I’ve really been tempted to get and take some kratom this week because I feel that it helps my immune system and at the very least makes me not feel so ****ty when sick. But I’ve been holding tight; the quitting kratom and SMART recovery meetings have been helpful.
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    Tue - drank 8 units or 12 oz vodka

    Today sucked.

    12 oz vodka from last night left me sh!tty after my recent bender.

    I couldn't fall asleep until like 5 am, had to get up at 8 am for work, and felt like crap all day. Queasy, tired, anxious, no appetite, etc.

    Ended up fasting all day because no appetite. It's wild. Legit thought I was coming down with a virus or something. Should have known better.

    Instead of my planned bottle of wine, I couldn't stomach wine. Had Coke Zero with vodka. All it took was a couple drinks and I was revived. Spent all day feeling half dead and a couple vodka cokes had me feeling new again. Pathetic.

    Anyway, didn't cut down more like planned, but I did hold steady. So good news is that I didn't slip... just held steady.

    Tomorrow I will plan on a bottle of wine. Getting over that 4-6 drink hump is the real.challenge in my experience. Once you weather that and drop lower it's so much easier.

    Will keep updating as promised.

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    UPDATE:

    Sat - drank a whole bottle of vodka... 16.5 units (26 oz)
    Sun - drank 10 units vodka (15 oz)
    Mon - drank 8 units vodka (12 oz)
    Tue - drank 8 units or 12 oz vodka
    Wed - drank 7 units or just under 1.5 bottles of wine
    Thu - drank 6 units or 9 oz vodka

    Not cutting down at the rate I had hoped, but progress is progress.

    I know that I can't drag this out for too long though or it just opens up opportunities to stray and over consume.

    Going to try to kick it into high gear tomorrow and get to 0 drinks by Mon.
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    UPDATE:

    Sat - drank a whole bottle of vodka... 16.5 units (26 oz)
    Sun - drank 10 units vodka (15 oz)
    Mon - drank 8 units vodka (12 oz)
    Tue - drank 8 units or 12 oz vodka
    Wed - drank 7 units or just under 1.5 bottles of wine
    Thu - drank 6 units or 9 oz vodka

    Not cutting down at the rate I had hoped, but progress is progress.

    I know that I can't drag this out for too long though or it just opens up opportunities to stray and over consume.

    Going to try to kick it into high gear tomorrow and get to 0 drinks by Mon.
    I mean you went from 26 oz to 9 oz...

    Give yourself some credit at least.
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    Going cold turkey after drinking nearly daily…havent drank since Tuesday. Last night was pretty rough but hopefully I can get through today and this weekend.

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    Going cold turkey after drinking nearly daily…havent drank since Tuesday. Last night was pretty rough but hopefully I can get through today and this weekend.

    Actually searching for some substance abuse programs as we speak, got some underlying issues that need to be resolved
    You'll resolve them through building a better man, and that takes hard work. Start with reading Escape by Dr. Jay Faber.
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    Fark , I came late to the party . Layed off yesterday and haven’t quit drinking since yesterday afternoon.
    Haven’t actually been to bed yet and have a dental appointment in 2 hours . The dental cleaning sloots going to freak when she smells my breath lol . Pretty much drunk at the moment . This will be a first .
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    Fark , I came late to the party . Layed off yesterday and haven’t quit drinking since yesterday afternoon.
    Haven’t actually been to bed yet and have a dental appointment in 2 hours . The dental cleaning sloots going to freak when she smells my breath lol . Pretty much drunk at the moment . This will be a first .
    Btw I’m walking to the dental clinic
    I don't think you can go under anesthesia but good luck.
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    Going cold turkey after drinking nearly daily…havent drank since Tuesday. Last night was pretty rough but hopefully I can get through today and this weekend.

    Actually searching for some substance abuse programs as we speak, got some underlying issues that need to be resolved
    That is great to hear, especially you possibly going into treatment. Outpatient can be very helpful.

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    Fark , I came late to the party . Layed off yesterday and haven’t quit drinking since yesterday afternoon.
    Haven’t actually been to bed yet and have a dental appointment in 2 hours . The dental cleaning sloots going to freak when she smells my breath lol . Pretty much drunk at the moment . This will be a first .
    Btw I’m walking to the dental clinic
    It's never too late! Lol well hopefully it is just for a cleaning. And sorry to hear about you being laid off.
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