Stop saying “liberals” as a catch all

[PepperedAngus]

nerds embracing this red v blue chit. Politicians dont give a fukk about you boyo. They just want your vote so they can further reap the spoils of politics. Power hungry old men got you worshipping them LOL


misc politicels, when will they learn?

Its not politics, its ideology. The two sides are so drastically far apart in how they see the world and the future, only one way can prevail. I dont give a flying fuk about politics or politicians I think they should all be hanged for treason, but I give lots of fuks about the American way of life, and thats becoming a line in the sand. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

[miscinbro]

Its not politics, its ideology. The two sides are so drastically far apart in how they see the world and the future, only one way can prevail. I dont give a flying fuk about politics or politicians I think they should all be hanged for treason, but I give lots of fuks about the American way of life, and thats becoming a line in the sand. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

How do you define the American way of life?

[Critter5592]

Its not politics, its ideology. The two sides are so drastically far apart in how they see the world and the future, only one way can prevail. I dont give a flying fuk about politics or politicians I think they should all be hanged for treason, but I give lots of fuks about the American way of life, and thats becoming a line in the sand. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

Except you are generalizing the far left as democrats as a whole. That would be like liberals generalizing all republicans like those qanon goobers. Extremists aren't representative of the whole party. It goes back to what I said about polarization. All this propaganda and bullchit on the internet has politicels so wound up, fighting amongst one another as if that actually solves anything.

[seanb1979]

Liberals were calling Trump and all Trump supporters nazis for years. Sorry, some people actually have memories that go back further than a month.

[miscinbro]

Liberals were calling Trump and all Trump supporters nazis for years. Sorry, some people actually have memories that go back further than a month

Yea, but Salon, and Slate etc., are toxic garbage. You want to put yourself on their level?

[seanb1979]

Except you are generalizing the far left as democrats as a whole. That would be like liberals generalizing all republicans like those qanon goobers. Extremists aren't representative of the whole party. It goes back to what I said about polarization. All this propaganda and bullchit on the internet has politicels so wound up, fighting amongst one another as if that actually solves anything.

The spectrum has shifted a LOT. I used to be center left, but now since I'm pro free speech and pro gun rights, I'm a right wing nazi, according to most of the current left.

And check this:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...al-typology-2/

The far left takes up a much larger percent than the far right, and the right as a whole is shrinking.



And this is the left saying we need to basically scrap all laws and make them how they want, not according to any public consensus (this is new age Maoism)

[seanb1979]

Yea, but Salon, and Slate etc., are toxic garbage. You want to put yourself on their level?

They are liberal mainstays and if you disagree with them you are probably actually right wing (according to most on the left.) And now lefties want a 'Czar of Truth' in the new Ministry of Propaganda. Feels almost made up. And we are that much closer to civil war.

I used to consider myself on the left, but only a bit left of center, but the constant anti white male **** from that side makes my blood boil and has turned me into a lifelong enemy of that bull****. I was eager for BLM to start **** in Idaho but there's a reason they didn't - I'm FAR from alone. They would have been slaughtered and we would have been called the bad guys for defending our homes and businesses, but I kinda wish it had happened.

[miscinbro]

They are liberal mainstays and if you disagree with them you are probably actually right wing (according to most on the left.) And now lefties want a 'Czar of Truth' in the new Ministry of Propaganda. Feels almost made up. And we are that much closer to civil war.

I used to consider myself on the left, but only a bit left of center, but the constant anti white male **** from that side makes my blood boil and has turned me into a lifelong enemy of that bull****. I was eager for BLM to start **** in Idaho but there's a reason they didn't - I'm FAR from alone. They would have been slaughtered and we would have been called the bad guys for defending our homes and businesses, but I kinda wish it had happened.

So, now you’re saying I have to agree with these articles you posted or I’m not actually a liberal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

And, you’ve been reading too much propaganda. I live somewhere where BLM was a thing, and reading the news you would think it was a war zone. It wasn’t. Everything was fine.

I agree with you about “the message” though. Absolute pure racist garbage (I’m a white male). My Asian wife (yea, yea, make all the jokes you want), who went to a very liberal undergrad and law school hates it as much as I do. Maybe more, hearing how I’m some monster who had everything handed to me (I didn’t) is not something a loving spouse wants to hear.

[Motiviert]

Fukk all liberals. Srs. Negging op from now on

[Dave22reborn]

I’m very pro-speech. My professional life has reflected that as well.

There is something that needs to be done about endless disinformation bots and trolls - but it’s a very very difficult solution. Weaponizing our own liberties against us is a difficult question to answer.

And what if that disinformation turns out to be true?

[Dave22reborn]

That’s what the politicians and media want you to think. What we need is rational discussion. We really need more than two parties as well. Nothing is going to get solved by dividing the country into two halves that think they have nothing in common.

We probably agree on more politically than we disagree.

You do know that even with multiple parties, the left leaning ones, and the right leaning ones, have a tendency to unite?

In the 1930s, Germany had numerous political parties. How did that turn out?

[Dave22reborn]

Yea, but Salon, and Slate etc., are toxic garbage. You want to put yourself on their level?

I want you to think about this for an example, every single Democratic politician, fell for the Smollet hoax, and had something to say about it.

And when it turned out to he a hoax, they deleted their tweets, pretended like they never said anything, or they doubled down.

Practically every Democratic politician, tried to have Trump impeached, they wasted everyone's time with the Mueller report, and the only time they praised him, was when he bombed Syria.

[SaltyDog920]

As an individual salty there has been a huge ashole to be time and time again. But that’s him - not “a conservative.”

I’m also trying to triage posts here as I’m trying to respond to everything that’s not purely a personal insult.

Well this is a lie. I don't resort to personal insults in my posts. So we will now add 'liar' to your list. LMAO you're so hypocritical as already pointed out.

The difference is that Trump is not nor has he ever been a not-see. Your candidates in power are self avowed communists and socialists. In fact, your candidates that held power were actual KKK members, high ranking ones (Robert Byrd). Your presidential candidate Clinton embraced, hugged, kissed, and called the KKK member a 'great mentor'.

Your baseless not-see accusations were not based in truth. Commie, socialist, and KKK accusations of your candidates are based in truth.

Additionally, your current president claimed Trump called not-see members 'great people'. That was a blatant lie. Trump specifically called those people out. Your president used propaganda to smear his candidate (that's what fascists do). So we will add fascists to the list.

You are:

A Communist
A Socialist
A KKK supporter
A fascist
A liar
And all those things are treasonous. So we will add treason to your list.

[SaltyDog920]

Basically OP's thread lmao

[miscinbro]

You do know that even with multiple parties, the left leaning ones, and the right leaning ones, have a tendency to unite?

In the 1930s, Germany had numerous political parties. How did that turn out?

Just for once in my life I’d like to vote for a President or Senator and be like “yea, I agree almost totally with that person.”

And they would have to form coalitions of the smaller parties, meaning one party could actually attract voters on somewhat nuanced issues. Our founding fathers -never- thought the US should/would be a two party royalty.

[Dave22reborn]

What do you mean you're a "liberal"? So you agree with stripping my rights away, dragging us into wars, forced medical procedures?

That's what I mean, dude supported mask mandates/vaccine mandates, calls you pro-Russian if you dispute anything the Ukrainian president says, and I'm pretty sure he's for gun control.

But don't generalize him as a liberal. He's an individual.

[miscinbro]

Well this is a lie. I don't resort to personal insults in my posts. So we will now add 'liar' to your list. LMAO you're so hypocritical as already pointed out.

Like hell you don’t. What a joke.

I also never said “personal insults” about you - I said you were a huge a-hole.

In fact I said I was trying to respond to everything that wasn’t a pure personal insult. I responded to you.

So maybe look in the mirror with that “liar” BS.

[miscinbro]

That's what I mean, dude supported mask mandates/vaccine mandates, calls you pro-Russian if you dispute anything the Ukrainian president says, and I'm pretty sure he's for gun control.

But don't generalize him as a liberal. He's an individual.

Right, so you’re back to just making sht up. I sure hope that behavior doesn’t translate to your policing.

I’ve literally said I’m pro gun itt. As for the rest, again, it’s not black and white. That seems to be a difficult concept for you.

[TheJediBrah]

If you don't want to be associated with the most vocal part of that group then don't identify as a liberal . . . and don't blame everyone else for associating them with you.

Nazis aren't the most vocal part of republicans so not an apt comparison.

[miscinbro]

What do you mean you're a "liberal"? So you agree with stripping my rights away, dragging us into wars, forced medical procedures?

I would like to give you more rights, please DO NOT pretend that going to war is a liberal thing only, and no, no I do not.

[miscinbro]

If you don't want to be associated with the most vocal part of that group then don't identify as a liberal . . . and don't blame everyone else for associating them with you.

Nazis aren't the most vocal part of republicans so not an apt comparison.

What, so I have to vote Republican now or be responsible for everything some internet nut job says because they are loud? That’s a joke. You’re reaching terribly because you -want- to be able to label the “other” in these overly simple terms.

[SaltyDog920]

Like hell you don’t. What a joke.

I also never said “personal insults” about you - I said you were a huge a-hole.

In fact I said I was trying to respond to everything that wasn’t a pure personal insult. I responded to you.

So maybe look in the mirror with that “liar” BS.

Well Mr. Lawyer, the burden of proof is on you.

Also lmao at directly calling someone an ******* but claiming it's not personal. So much delusion. See, I can call you delusional based on fact. You call me an ******* based on fiction.

[EagleOfWar]

Pseudo-intellectuals
Groomers
Freedom haters
Mentally ill
Speech Dictators
Tyrants

^^^^

If what the dems have done the past few years haven’t made you deny them your vote by now then you are one of them by association at the very least. It’s not complicated at all when you see what these people have caused in real time today.

There’s no excuse to be had to give these people power and try to justify not being one of them. It’s actually a very distinct line in the sand for everyone to see. It’d be nice if we had true independents with a chance here but we do not. Both sides have their bs but it IS very black and white in 2022.

[JonStorm500]

[QUOTE=miscinbro;1660799003]I would like to give you more rights, please DO NOT pretend that going to war is a liberal thing only, and no, no I do not.

Ok then. You're cool in my book. Maybe classify yourself as a classical liberal? The term "liberal" nowadays is french for nutjob.

[miscinbro]

Well Mr. Lawyer, the burden of proof is on you.

Also lmao at directly calling someone an ******* but claiming it's not personal. So much delusion. See, I can call you delusional based on fact. You call me an ******* based on fiction.

Burden of proof? The fck are you talking about?

And yes, calling you an a-hole is a personal insult. But, if it is, you -certainly- post many, many personal insults.

But this isn’t what this thread is about, it’s about treating people as individuals, not faceless pawns associated with R or D.

[InstantLoser]

If you voted for Trump how would you like to be called a Nazi?

The left has been doing this to literally anyone right of Stalin for 5+ years.

Cry me a ****ing river, liberal.

[miscinbro]

[QUOTE=JonStorm500;1660799983]

I would like to give you more rights, please DO NOT pretend that going to war is a liberal thing only, and no, no I do not.

Ok then. You're cool in my book. Maybe classify yourself as a classical liberal? The term "liberal" nowadays is french for nutjob.

I don’t want to even have to worry about some label. But keep in mind, liberal isn’t an insult in my mind, the fringe is weird and not liberal at all. Anyone telling you I need to carefully define myself is up to something.

[miscinbro]

The left has been doing this to literally anyone right of Stalin for 5+ years.

Cry me a ****ing river, liberal.

And by “the left” you mean some people. I haven’t. My friends and family haven’t. I’m not responsible for their BS just because I don’t want to vote Republican.

[InstantLoser]

And by “the left” you mean some people. I haven’t. My friends and family haven’t. I’m not responsible for their BS just because I don’t want to vote Republican.

Explain to me how you can possibly vote Democrat in 2022 after the bull**** the left has pulled over the last half decade. The Democratic party bends the knee to the left, so don't try to pretend like there's some meaningful difference. BLM rioted for 2 years and did billions in property damage, and murdered over 2 dozen people. Mums the ****ing word from the left. But a few dozen people enter the Capitol building (mostly let in by police) and that's an ***INSURRECTION***.
The current "President" claimed that the MAGA movement is the "Most extreme group in American history". Leftists are literally rioting about perceived bodily autonomy rights (because murdering babies is not a bodily autonomy right for women) after spending 2 years screeching at people and trying to control their bodies. The left has censored speech for years on social media platforms, and the SECOND that Musk talks about buying Twitter we now have the full force of the establishment writing smear pieces in the MSM, calling for anti-trust legislation against him, claiming he's a white supremacist (durr, again this is the left for the last 5+ years), and Biden creates a LITERAL 1984-style Ministry of Truth under the guise of fighting "disinformation" (which directly translates to "DEMOCRATS DON'T LIKE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT"). The biggest joke of all is the dumb b1tch he appointed to run this "Disinfo Board" is a pathological liar who does nothing but spread ACTUAL disinformation herself.

You may dislike some Republican policies, that's great. But NOBODY should be able to vote Democrat in 2022 and still pretend to have an objective view of reality.

[NitrogenWidget]

And what if that disinformation turns out to be true?

huh, so weird.
he must of missed this post.