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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Yep.
    Although I didn’t watch F1 when he was dominating or have any particular attachment to him, it still feels weird watching him leave. I guess you can still just feel that he was an important name in the sport.
    I don't remember him being universally liked back when RB was dominating and Multi 21 didn't go down well. He was exceptional in that car which perfectly suited his driving style.

    It was only when he moved to Ferrari after a young Ricciardo mercilessly flogged him in the same car that he seemed liked by everyone. Obviously fans wanted to see him take the fight to Mercedes when Ferrari finally had a competitive car in 2017-2018 but Vettel folded like a cheap suit after Hockenheim and Lewis never looked back.

    As for Hamilton why isn't there more talk about him being mogged by Russell? The only stat where he finished ahead was in qualifying.
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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    I don't remember him being universally liked back when RB was dominating and Multi 21 didn't go down well. He was exceptional in that car which perfectly suited his driving style.

    It was only when he moved to Ferrari after a young Ricciardo mercilessly flogged him in the same car that he seemed liked by everyone. Obviously fans wanted to see him take the fight to Mercedes when Ferrari finally had a competitive car in 2017-2018 but Vettel folded like a cheap suit after Hockenheim and Lewis never looked back.

    As for Hamilton why isn't there more talk about him being mogged by Russell? The only stat where he finished ahead was in qualifying.
    I think it has a lot to do with how unlikable Russel is.

    Which means when Lewis is talking about car development and Russel is talking about developing ways to take people out, they cling to give Lewis the benefit of the doubt.
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    I think it has a lot to do with how unlikable Russel is.
    Lol wouldn't doubt it. He wasn't the most likeable as it was when he was at Williams. But he moved to Mercedes and instantly turned into a fking douche.

    BUT credit where it's due: He did a fantastic job this season with what he was given. I mean, on numerous occasion the "gOaT sEveN TiMe WorLd ChamPiOn" said this was the absolute worst car he's ever driven. Yet it was good enough for Russell to consistently place top 5 in nearly every single race of the season. Talk about consistency.
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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    I don't remember him being universally liked back when RB was dominating and Multi 21 didn't go down well.
    It was only when he moved to Ferrari after a young Ricciardo mercilessly flogged him in the same car that he seemed liked by everyone. .
    Honestly it's just a classic case of no one likes you when you're on top. It's that way in every sport. I don't think anyone ever has more haters in their career than when they're at their absolute best. It is what it is.
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    Is F1 tour over for Mick Schumacher? No way they'll move him to #1 seat when Hamilton retires. He'll get #2 at best playing second fiddle and fades into oblivion after a year or two similar to Bruno Senna's F1 career.


    Mercedes open to signing Schumacher to reserve F1 role

    https://www.motorsportweek.com/2022/...edes-f1-squad/
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    Originally Posted by greenleaf View Post
    Is F1 tour over for Mick Schumacher? No way they'll move him to #1 seat when Hamilton retires. He'll get #2 at best playing second fiddle and fades into oblivion after a year or two similar to Bruno Senna's F1 career.


    Mercedes open to signing Schumacher to reserve F1 role

    https://www.motorsportweek.com/2022/...edes-f1-squad/

    I think we will see him back in the next 2-3 years.
    People are saying Audi will likely want a German driver for when they take over Alpha Romeo in 2026. (So we might see Mick join the team a year or two prior to that is what some suspect.)
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    tbh Mick sucked this year and didnt deliver, so it's ok for him to sit out for now. I too believe that he'll be back tho.

    Reading rumors of Binotto being sacked finally, so hopefully Ferrari will be back on top next year.
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    Originally Posted by ProudKraut View Post
    tbh Mick sucked this year and didnt deliver
    I disagree. While he needed (more time than the team would have liked for sure) at the start of the season to adjust to the car, he certainly wasn't able to capitalize on more points.

    But in the later half of the season, he missed out on points and it was absolutely no ones fault but the teams ass strategies. Other than that he was basically just as fast as Magnussen (as Magnussen even admitted himself) just about the entire second half of the season, showing nothing but the car was holding him back.
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    Srs Mick didn't live up to his pedigree and has been a disappointment. The guy scored only 12 points so far while dad was already racing mid field in a sht car in his debut race LOL.

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    Originally Posted by greenleaf View Post
    Srs Mick didn't live up to his pedigree and has been a disappointment. The guy scored only 12 points so far while dad was already racing mid field in a sht car in his debut race LOL.
    So he's ass because people assume he should be living up to what his dad (who is one of, if not THE greatest of all time) did?
    Right...seems realistic...
    If that's the case, all but maybe 4 or 5 drivers currently in F1 just need to hang it up if Michael is the standard by which we judge drivers against lol.






    And we're forgetting he drove a fking Haas? A car that was absolute dogchit in 2021 and this season wasn't exactly lightyears ahead when the second half the season came around. By then, just about everyone had surpassed them in terms if quality car upgrades.
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    Mick was better than Magnussen this year and he would have scored a lot more points if Haas strategy wasn't complete dogchit. I lost count of the times their strat ruined his race. He had a slow start but was much better in the 2nd half and out performed Magnussen in the 2nd half of the season.
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    Originally Posted by Tuga88 View Post
    Mick was better than Magnussen this year and he would have scored a lot more points if Haas strategy wasn't complete dogchit. I lost count of the times their strat ruined his race. He had a slow start but was much better in the 2nd half and out performed Magnussen in the 2nd half of the season.
    It's chit because Kevin was able to get familiar with the car much faster, so he was able to score some points and take advantage of how good the car was the first 5-6 races.
    After that, it took them wayyyy too long to bring upgrades, and even when they did, they weren't anything great. By then Mick was performing every bit on Kevin's level, and even better on some tracks.

    Haas has no legitimate excuse whatsoever to get rid of Mick aside from the disappointment of him not getting more familiar with the car faster. Ultimately the car and the team held him back.
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    Well we’ve been hearing that it was all but guaranteed for a good month now…
    Today it’s official: Binnotto no longer team principal at Ferrari.

    They’re so desperate, they’ve literally even asked Christian Horner if he wants the job. To which he obviously declined.

    Apparently Fred Vasseur is the #1 person being talked about for the job, but it sounds like the feelings are mixed.
    On one hand, it sounds like some within the team don’t have a lot of confidence in Fred. On the other hand, it sounds like LeClerc and his camp want him because the two got along really well together when LeClerc was with the Sauber team in 2018.

    I think Fred is probably questioning it. Ferrari team principal seems like the place you go when you’re ready to kill your career.

    They’ve also allegedly asked the legend Ross Brawn if he wants the job (again), but it sounds like he’s happy working for F1 and might not be part of the sport for much longer.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    They’ve also allegedly asked the legend Ross Brawn if he wants the job (again), but it sounds like he’s happy working for F1 and might not be part of the sport for much longer.
    The very fact that he just happens to be "retiring" at this exact moment has my spidey senses tingling.

    I could easily see him taking up the challenge for a couple years.
    “retro” is a sensibility that has obvious appeal as a shelter from the relentless onslaught of the new.
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    Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN View Post
    The very fact that he just happens to be "retiring" at this exact moment has my spidey senses tingling.

    I could easily see him taking up the challenge for a couple years.
    He literally released an official statement yesterday or day before saying he’s no longer interested in being associated with any specific team.
    Seems like he went the extra mile to make it clear that being a team principal for Ferrari (or anyone else for that matter) isn’t something he’s interested in.

    I wouldn’t be mad though. Would be pretty damn cool to see him back there leading Ferrari again.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    He literally released an official statement yesterday or day before saying he’s no longer interested in being associated with any specific team.
    Seems like he went the extra mile to make it clear that being a team principal for Ferrari (or anyone else for that matter) isn’t something he’s interested in.

    I wouldn’t be mad though. Would be pretty damn cool to see him back there leading Ferrari again.
    Binotto also made several statements as if he was going to still be at ferrari in 2023.

    They cant actually say the truth until its locked.

    even ricciardo had to pretend he might do indycar in '23 LOL. Redbull contract confirmed literally the next day.
    “retro” is a sensibility that has obvious appeal as a shelter from the relentless onslaught of the new.
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    Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN View Post
    Binotto also made several statements as if he was going to still be at ferrari in 2023.

    They cant actually say the truth until its locked.

    even ricciardo had to pretend he might do indycar in '23 LOL. Redbull contract confirmed literally the next day.
    True, I guess we’ll see soon.
    I can’t imagine they’ll go very long without an official announcement of who will be his replacement.
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    iiiiintredasting.....

    The only part that makes no sense is that he pulled this stunt while he was in 3rd place behind both ferraris.... He ultimately won the race, so his bold strategy DID pay off, but still.

    “retro” is a sensibility that has obvious appeal as a shelter from the relentless onslaught of the new.
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