Sorta agree. Just heard an interview of the guy who made up the "birds aren't real" slogan as a joke which spunoff to actual conspiracies that all birds are dead and replaced with drones with cameras by govt agencies. You literally can't make up **** so crazy these morons won't buy into.
Gene pool needs some chlorine
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02-20-2022, 01:14 PM #38
Clinesmith was durhams first target. He literally altered evidence to justify spying on trump. He knowingly did it and laughed about it with his doj buddies through their comms. He was the viva la resistance guy. He was also the lawyer who went after papadaolous and others. He was no small figure in the investigation.
He got hit with a single lying to the fbi charge and when he faced the very FISA judge he lied to, the judge gave him probation and said he’d suffered enough.
Imagine a world where a trump doj official lied to spy on Clinton…. They would have been in jail for years.
So conspiracy though, just undercharging by Durham and under sentencing by the fisa court judge to protect the deep state.
What’s the definition of a conspiracy again?
For a comparison, muellers team hit Flynn with a lying to the fbi charge and tried to throw him away while stringing his case along for years. Flynn’s crime? Literally nothing. The fbi had the call transcript at the time of their interview with Flynn and they knew nothing nefarious was discussed. They never discussed sanctions. There was a single remark about Obama throwing Russians out of the US and Flynn simply said try not to escalate the situation (like any incoming NSA head would say). They magically lost their 302 with Flynn and then alluded to a lie after the fact. They never once showed him the transcript to review and clarify.
They be guy did nothing, the other committed fraud on the fisa court to spy on a US citizen and political rival. The one the judge threw the case out, the other judge refused to end the case even after the DOJ produced evidence showing there was a set up of Flynn and there was no crime.Last edited by rampagefc77; 02-20-2022 at 01:20 PM.
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He’s picking apart the origin of the case, which was all Clinton and her team.
The dossier? All Clinton’s team through fusion gps. The only source said it was all fake. He wasn’t a Russian but a democrat in Washington working for a dem think tank.
The Alfa bank claims? Clinton’s team again, completely faked.
That’s where he is at now. You could do the same for the trump jr. Meeting at trump tower (fusion gps), etc.
Then you can get into overseas spying way before they claimed to have been “tipped off.” Mifsud was western intel. How do you reconcile anything from there?
And once you realize the origins ere all Clinton… how do you explain the investigation? Wtf was muellerdoing?
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This account seems to come from some sort of Fox News alternate reality. Especially WRT to the claims that Clinton and Obama were spying on Trump.
No one spied on Trump and I already fact-checked the CHIT out of this. Obama didn't spy on him. And the supposed claim that Clinton had some tech-executive-lawyer in their employ to use DNS servers to fabricate some sort of collusion narrative between Trump and Russia is flat out bizarre. Not withstanding the fact that Sussman's tip was already considered in the Mueller and the Bipartisan Committee Reports, and discarded in both, the theory simply doesn't make sense.
I'm no IT expert but I can't see how one could "spy" simply by performing a DNS lookup. DNS AFAIK just matches IP addresses to domain names and I don't see how this could extract private or personal information, let alone form the sole smoking gun in a claim or case like this.
I consider this theory shredded.
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Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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02-21-2022, 01:23 AM #50
I made posts a while back arguing that QAnon was just rebranded fascism. It's just a very developed form of the psychological threat protection mechanisms which react against the complexity of the world. "Trust the plan" is suspiciously like fundamentalist Christianity and assumes all the world's problems are going to be solved by one authoritarian. It's a deliberate attempt to simplify the world and a resistance to structural criticisms which, rather, paints a more realistic picture that the world is what it is because of an unfathomably large number of forces.
It's so stupidly unrealistic; it's like it believes everyone save for some sort of shadowy group of elites is content with their lot and impetus for social change can only come from sort of powerful secret cabal with an always-evil agenda. What, the 99% have no ambitions or intentions to elicit social change? It's like they believe any shift in the status quo must be the evil intentions of some singular entity.Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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02-21-2022, 07:53 AM #52
You'll have to take it with a grain of salt WRT to the IT specifics, but Durham in the court filings alleges the tech-lawyer abused his privilege to access private DNS data. Mind you these are just allegations and the court day is when the actual evidence is meant to be presented.
However, the DNS is raised in the Bipartisan report as well, and says it was publically available and accessed by data scientists. And as I said I think DNS is a very boring book keeping part of the internet and couldn't substantiate a case like this.
AFAIK DNS just connects IP addresses to domain names and can't be used for "spying". This whole thing is very two more weeks!-esque.Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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