Hey guys, I have been stalling on most of my main lifts for a few months now, and given my current stats and level, this should not be occurring, given that I am trying to do everything right.
I am 6ft 175 lb 25% bodyfat. My goal is building muscle and getting stronger.
I have been maintaining my weight for the past 3 months now and I can't seem to progress on my major lifts and it's really frustrating. I understand thet a surplus is better for overall muscle/strength gains, but my current lifts are so low I should be able to increase even in a deficit.
My lifts are Bench- 165lb X 6, BB row- 135 X 6, OHP- 115 X6(Can't train legs due to serious knee injury, so I'm doing light work)
I make sure to sleep 8 hours every night and get enough calories and protein to maintain my weight.
I have been following a full body split for the past 6 months, but lately I have been stuck on these lifts for a while and have not had any changes in the mirror as well. I rest 3-5 on compounds and less of isolations. My routine is:
Workout A-
BB bench- 4X6
T bar- row- 3X8
Lat pulldown- 3X10
Seated shoulder press- 3X8
lateral raise- 3X12
barbell curl- 3X10
Triceps extension- 3X12
Leg work
Workout B
OHP- 4X6
BB row- 4X6
barbell shrug- 3X10
incline BB press- 3X8
chest fly- 3X15
dumbbell curl- 3X12
triceps pushdown- 3X12
Leg work
I am so frustrated, because every workout I am pushing myself and working hard and going close to failure on every exercise, working near my 1rm, but making sure I hit the required reps. But I am stalling on these weak lifts when I should be progressing every workout. Given my state, I should be progressing every workout and building muscle as a weak beginner.
Sorry for the long post, any help I appreciated.
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02-02-2022, 07:01 PM #1
Please help, don't know what I'm doing wrong.
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02-02-2022, 07:08 PM #2
You should really get that body fat down to a healthy range. I rotate between 12-15 percent. Do you have a progression plan? Progressive overload is the primary driver for natural lifters. You need to add weight overtime while being in a small surplus. If those two are not met you’re basically maintaining.
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02-02-2022, 07:14 PM #3
I have been trying to progressively overload every workout or every week, but every time I come back to the same weight I get stuck.
I get that a surplus is required to get stronger once the weight starts getting close to intermediate. But given how weak I am and how fat i am, I should be able to progress workout to work out like a beginner should with ease, even in a deficit. But i'm not
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02-02-2022, 07:24 PM #4
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02-02-2022, 07:33 PM #6
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02-02-2022, 07:37 PM #7
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02-02-2022, 07:40 PM #8
The dude a few posts above said to eat in a small surplus which you ignored.
If you don't want to do that, then you have to try harder. No one else or their theoretical progress videos/posts can lift the weight for you. Maybe drop some of the iso crap & the fake legwork at the end of your workouts so you can focus on the main lifts.
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02-02-2022, 07:46 PM #9
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02-02-2022, 07:51 PM #10
Numbers can be deceiving. Some people are just genetically gifted and have good leverages... Others don’t.
Guideline
1. Get the fat off
2. Once you’re at 12 ish percent stabilize the new bf for a few weeks
3. Eat in a small surplus. Calorie partitioning will be improved and you’ll gain better
4. Slow down progression. If you can’t add weight every week try for every 2-3 weeks.
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02-02-2022, 07:51 PM #11
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02-03-2022, 12:12 AM #16
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There's nothing special about getting down to 12% bf tbh.. It's as arbitrary as 20.
But I don't discourage the fat loss goal overall.
The problem may simply be doing the same thing for to long. Most people will stall regardless just repeating the same pattern forever.
You need to change some variables. Variations, sets n reps, how far from failure sets are. Apply that to a new cycle, there may be some drop in strength initially but then you'll get strong by the end of it. Be it 4 - 8 weeks.
If you need a straight up new program to follow because this is to much to organize canidto linear is different enough but still going to be very suitable5 day full body crew
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02-03-2022, 03:40 PM #17
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02-03-2022, 03:51 PM #18
100% this is your solution…
Simple rep goal progression.
For each exercise choose an upper guide or max number of reps.
For simplicity let’s just say you set it at 10.
Train your hardest trying to get 10 perfect reps. When you do…..you can start heavier next time.
You can however add weight each set in a pyramid or keep the weight the same….it doesn’t matter, whatever you like.
Progression for dummies, build up the reps, reach the goal, add a little weight to the bar and repeat.
If you are stuck on ALL lifts, add 250 cals. Per day."A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."
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02-03-2022, 04:31 PM #19
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02-03-2022, 04:38 PM #20
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02-03-2022, 05:01 PM #21
Trial and error will help set your weights. 80% of your max will most likely allow 6-8 reps. Take every set as close to failure as you can without hurting yourself. Holding back will hold YOU back. Set the goal, chase the goal, be safe, keep the form, when you can reach the goal safely with good form, start heavier next time.
I’m not sure who started this BS trend of holding guys from pushing sets to the limit but it’s causing and epidemic of NO GAINs. The mechanical tension from using progressively heavier weights is only part of the equation. You need some metabolic stress to force adaptations….prolong the time under the tension.
Let’s say you bench 150x8 with your best effort and a spotter there for safety…
The next workout you will probably get 9.
The following workout 10…
Go to 155 next time.
That does NOT mean you have to use the same weight for all sets, in fact, there’s research showing that varying the weights is beneficial.
So even if you get 150x8
You could add 5-10 lbs and push hard and perhaps manage 5-6. You’re Going to drop a rep or two anyway!
And look, you can set the goal higher…12…that’s fine too.
Ultimately the first set for whatever body part you are training should show a gain in reps, form, control, bar speed…."A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."
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