UnVAXXEDCels.....Please explain why are you still unvaccinated?

[A-GAME]

I'm pro-vaccine, but anti-mandate. That said, although the vaccines might lesson my symptoms, I don't need them. There also isn't enough data at this point to justify taking them in my my case.

[LizzieTish]

Question in title

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[LiftBigEatBig]

A better question to ask is: why are low-risk vaxxcels getting boosted?

[the700level]

Gym started requiring proof of vaccination, had to get vaxed for the gainz.

Cuck

[gixxer0.6g]

Because....



Negged faaggooottt

[greenleaf]

GOAT Novavax is not out yet.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...accine/619276/

[RiceBrah93]

Because most vaccinated people I know have gotten covid and a few got complications from the vaccine.

It's like taking steroids to make your muscles smaller, that's exactly what it's like to get the vaxx and still get covid.

[Bodhy]

Because I don't trust drug companies to make a safe product when they're given permission to skip the usual safety trials and given full immunity from anything that goes wrong

Two pieces of misinformation right here. I've dealt with these sorts of claims extensively. The safety precautions were not skipped at all during the vaccine trials. Why the process was greatly expedited was not because someone jumped the gun on safety protocols, but rather there are a wealth of bureaucratic bottlenecks which usually present themselves during the approval process which we were able to bypass because of the situation. Covid gave us the two factors which allowed us to effortlessly cut through the usual red tape, which are political expedience and a wealth of immediately available funding. This created one of the cohesive, systematic and collaborative scientific initiatives in human history. Clinical trial participants were available in droves, information was disseminated around the world at light speed, funding was available in huge piles.

That allowed significant cutting down of the usual bureacratic processes involved in approval which are not related to safety.


It's also incorrect to say pharma companies cannot be sued. They can. What actually happened here is that the Secretary of State grants a contractual indemnity to all relevant parties. That means not that you cannot sue the companies, but that the Secretary of State meets all their legal costs from damages to the claimant, to the legal costs incurred by the company. It's just a transfer of liability from the manufacturer to the State.


From another perspective too, this makes perfect sense. It's a means of preventing what is known as vexatious litigation; where the courts have their time wasted by stupid and farcical claims without legal merit. Exhibit A: Trump's post-election loss lawsuits. Covid spawned a huge wealth of conspiracy theories and at the first sign of any adverse effect the courts would be filled with anti-vaxxers, tinfoil hat crackpots and ambulance chasers.

[Torrr]

Two pieces of misinformation right here. I've dealt with these sorts of claims extensively. The safety precautions were not skipped at all during the vaccine trials. Why the process was greatly expedited was not because someone jumped the gun on safety protocols, but rather there are a wealth of bureaucratic bottlenecks which usually present themselves during the approval process which we were able to bypass because of the situation. Covid gave us the two factors which allowed us to effortlessly cut through the usual red tape, which are political expedience and a wealth of immediately available funding. This created one of the cohesive, systematic and collaborative scientific initiatives in human history. Clinical trial participants were available in droves, information was disseminated around the world at light speed, funding was available in huge piles.

That allowed significant cutting down of the usual bureacratic processes involved in approval which are not related to safety.


It's also incorrect to say pharma companies cannot be sued. They can. What actually happened here is that the Secretary of State grants a contractual indemnity to all relevant parties. That means not that you cannot sue the companies, but that the Secretary of State meets all their legal costs from damages to the claimant, to the legal costs incurred by the company. It's just a transfer of liability from the manufacturer to the State.


From another perspective too, this makes perfect sense. It's a means of preventing what is known as vexatious litigation; where the courts have their time wasted by stupid and farcical claims without legal merit. Exhibit A: Trump's post-election loss lawsuits. Covid spawned a huge wealth of conspiracy theories and at the first sign of any adverse effect the courts would be filled with anti-vaxxers, tinfoil hat crackpots and ambulance chasers.

Feels as if I'm reading the misc version of a "fact checker" ... No vaccine skeptic on the misc is low enough of IQ to take this seriously.

[Bodhy]

Feels as if I'm reading the misc version of a "fact checker" ... No vaccine skeptic on the misc is low enough of IQ to take this seriously.

Great argument. Really made me reevaluate my position.

[JUSA]

Great argument. Really made me reevaluate my position.

Why would a shill reevaluate their position against any argument?

If the safety trials were not skipped, whatever that means, what exactly were they and why was what they did sufficient? And if it was sufficient, why was there no informed consent on the myriad of now-known side effects when these gene therapy treatments were rolled out?

Please cite one source from Pfizer/Moderna or one of these companies warning consumers that their gene therapies had risks associated with them for blood clots, Bells Palsy, myocarditis, etc. -- No need for a wall of text, just a quick and easy link to them informing consumers of those risks.

Risks by your argument they should have been well aware of, as you are arguing they were tested thoroughly.

[bigcat3655]

Two pieces of misinformation right here. I've dealt with these sorts of claims extensively. The safety precautions were not skipped at all during the vaccine trials. Why the process was greatly expedited was not because someone jumped the gun on safety protocols, but rather there are a wealth of bureaucratic bottlenecks which usually present themselves during the approval process which we were able to bypass because of the situation. Covid gave us the two factors which allowed us to effortlessly cut through the usual red tape, which are political expedience and a wealth of immediately available funding. This created one of the cohesive, systematic and collaborative scientific initiatives in human history. Clinical trial participants were available in droves, information was disseminated around the world at light speed, funding was available in huge piles.

That allowed significant cutting down of the usual bureacratic processes involved in approval which are not related to safety.


It's also incorrect to say pharma companies cannot be sued. They can. What actually happened here is that the Secretary of State grants a contractual indemnity to all relevant parties. That means not that you cannot sue the companies, but that the Secretary of State meets all their legal costs from damages to the claimant, to the legal costs incurred by the company. It's just a transfer of liability from the manufacturer to the State.


From another perspective too, this makes perfect sense. It's a means of preventing what is known as vexatious litigation; where the courts have their time wasted by stupid and farcical claims without legal merit. Exhibit A: Trump's post-election loss lawsuits. Covid spawned a huge wealth of conspiracy theories and at the first sign of any adverse effect the courts would be filled with anti-vaxxers, tinfoil hat crackpots and ambulance chasers.

This is nonsense. Average length of time it takes for a drug to get through testing to approval is 10 years. These drugs were pushed through in months with zero studies any further out than a few months. Zero studies on how it affects pregnancy. Zero studies on how it affects puberty. Zero studies of the risk of these heart problems we are seeing everywhere.

And you wasted a lot of words to say I was right that the drug companies can't be sued over the jab. Idgaf if the government covers the cost, that still does nothing to the companies, and they know it

[Bodhy]

This is nonsense. Average length of time it takes for a drug to get through testing to approval is 10 years. These drugs were pushed through in months with zero studies any further out than a few months. Zero studies on how it affects pregnancy. Zero studies on how it affects puberty. Zero studies of the risk of these heart problems we are seeing everywhere.

And you wasted a lot of words to say I was right that the drug companies can't be sued over the jab. Idgaf if the government covers the cost, that still does nothing to the companies, and they know it

I like the part where you interacted with what I argued.

[PenorBrahNoHomo]

Rationality is just post hoc cope, I'm not doing it because I know it's the wrong thing to do and all the wrong people want me to do it. It's intuitive.

[JUSA]

I like the part where you interacted with what I argued.

Funny, you had time to neg me (and cry that I wasn't permabanned), bemoan this lack of interaction in your opinion, yet you have not addressed my post.

Reminder: the request was to dismiss your usual wall-of-text garbage and just source one big pharm company giving information about the now-known side effects back when these gene therapies rolled out.

Why, it's almost as if you can not do that. Without a wall of text armor, there is little left to feces-rubbing shills, is there?

[ChaoticReignPbt]

Had covid last year. It amounted to 2 or 3 days of being stuffy and a slightly muted sense of taste for a week. After that experience what justification is there for me to be vaccinated? Why risk adverse affects to "protect" me from something that my immune system man-handled?

[Bushmaster]

I like the part where you interacted with what I argued.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...rm=Copro****ia

[ShadowBarkley]

Ive never gotten a flu and in 35 years I have only gotten a fever a handful of times.

Honestly I have no idea how I havent gotten covid yet. Ive put myself at risk many times.

Either way, I trust my body to fight off covid more than I trust it to fight off adverse effects from a rushed vaccine.

Now maybe if we have some real long term data and i can see the risk/reward of the vax, i can see myself taking it in a couple of years if its a serious problem (Based on the weakness of omnicron...Ill probably never take the vax)

[BIGJIMSLADE22]

So many reasons, but at the top of this list, I would say that the CEO of the company stating publicly that the shots don't work would be enough for any person with a functioning brain to take a pass on them.

[Stizzel]

So many reasons, but at the top of this list, I would say that the CEO of the company stating publicly that the shots don't work would be enough for any person with a functioning brain to take a pass on them.

Libtard translation: This individual hates minorities and hates science

[hendrixfreak70]

Non-gun owners, please explain why you haven't bought a gun.

[nctarheels21]

Besides all of the politically driven nonsense, I look at it just like the flu vaccine: I don't need it. Some years I get the flu, some years I don't. But I'd like to rely on my healthy immune system to fight off the virus, then be protected the rest of flu season.