13 year old dies of cardiac arrest

[HayZues Christi]

to the people saying "but 2,000 people under 25 die of cardiac arrest every year"


okay, but that is not the same as saying, "2,000 people under 25 die of UNEXPECTED cardiac arrest every year"


Those 2,000 people who die, had congenital issues and other health problems that led to the cardiac arrest



the point of this thread, is that this kid had none of those things, and was a healthy young boy, and unexpectedly died of a cardiac arrest.


thats the difference. healthy children dont get unexpected heart attacks like this.

Wrong. It's 2000 sudden and unexpected.

Including people with known issues is MUCH higher.


Not a single person ITT knows if this kid had an undiagnosed health issue. Happens all the time. Diagnoses comes after the cardiac event.

Think hank gathers.



"Sudden cardiac arrest is rare in young people, but it can happen. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), about 2,000 young, seemingly healthy people under age 25 in the United States die each year of sudden cardiac arrest"


https://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...iac-Death.aspx

[Yoopwat]

Is this a gotcha?


Kids die every year from the polio vaccine. where is the 30 threads a day about it?

I'm last 30 years, you know how many lives the polio vax has saved? 500k.. that's it.

None of this is new, the definition of vax hasn't changed. Only thing new is a bunch of mouth breathers are learning these facts for the first time .

You have a slightly strange attitude to people being concerned about a vaccine being pushed onto children that poses no health benefits to them yet can kill them. I’m sure the parents whose kids have died from a reaction to the vaccine will be at ease from knowing random stats about polio.

[ChadShapox]

Is this a gotcha?


Kids die every year from the polio vaccine. where is the 30 threads a day about it?

In last 30 years, you know how many lives the polio vax has saved? 500k.. that's it.

None of this is new, the definition of vax hasn't changed. Only thing new is a bunch of mouth breathers are learning these facts for the first time .

bro shut your mouth.

[skinnyntall]

This won’t make it on the news.

RIP.

None of the vaxed deaths are making it on the news. It’s always “anti-Vaxer dies”.

[HayZues Christi]

You have a slightly strange attitude to people being concerned about a vaccine being pushed onto children that poses no health benefits to them yet can kill them. I’m sure the parents whose kids have died from a reaction to the vaccine will be at ease from knowing random stats about polio.

My attitude isn't for the concerned, it is for the certain.

The inconsistent application of logic and confirmation bias that is so widespread and perverse that all discourse in this society has been completely stunted.

You should read my CP right now... these people are unhinged.

[Yoopwat]

My attitude isn't for the concerned, it is for the certain.

The inconsistent application of logic and confirmation bias that is so widespread and perverse that all discourse in this society has been completely stunted.

You should read my CP right now... these people are unhinged.

Really? I would suggest the certain are the doctors and media knowingly advocating the vaccination of children whilst having the knowledge that it provides zero health benefit to them and only risks. One side of “certains” are leaving you mean CP comments, the other are effectively bullying members of society into receiving vaccinations for no reason other than financial gain to large pharmaceutical companies.

[Titansfan08]

Nothing more infuriating than fuked up lib parents injecting their kids with this chit. Worst form of child abuse and parents should be hung (ded srs)

Poor kid didn't know chit and is dead now thanks to his dumb fuk parents.

Blood boiling

[CalmWind]

Wrong. It's 2000 sudden and unexpected.

Including people with known issues is MUCH higher.


Not a single person ITT knows if this kid had an undiagnosed health issue. Happens all the time. Diagnoses comes after the cardiac event.

Think hank gathers.



"Sudden cardiac arrest is rare in young people, but it can happen. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), about 2,000 young, seemingly healthy people under age 25 in the United States die each year of sudden cardiac arrest"


https://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...iac-Death.aspx

this is true, we do not know if the kid had an undiagnosed issue.



still, i would not dismiss the very real possibility that this experimental technology is killing people too. Think about it, these injections are not even vaccines, they are antibody therapies which heighten your immunoresponse to fight the viruses, just like when you have an infection.

and when you have an infection, your body goes back to normal afterwards.

but with the mRNA jabs.....unlike when you have an infection, the gov't wants to KEEP you in an heightened immunoresponse for LONG periods of time, months/years... with boosters etc.


they cannot possibly know the effects this has on the human body because there are no studies on it.

[Torrr]

Wrong. You don't realize how much opposition there is, mostly censored and silenced. I have been IP banned from reddit for only suggesting people that don't already exercise start now to lessen covid symptoms if they get it. If you suggest anything other then the jab you get censored for spreading "misinformation"

I was banned on Reddit yesterday for quoting
Ontario's public covid data lol

They were right to ban me in the sense I was only posting because I knew their minds couldn't take the reality of the data lol

[HayZues Christi]

Really? I would suggest the certain are the doctors and media knowingly advocating the vaccination of children whilst having the knowledge that it provides zero health benefit to them and only risks. One side of “certains” are leaving you mean CP comments, the other are effectively bullying members of society into receiving vaccinations for no reason other than financial gain to large pharmaceutical companies.

I personally haven't seen any bullying into vaccine kids. You say knowingly, so doctors are knowingly injecting their own children as well?

Long term studies will eventually show the truth. Believe whatever you'd like.

Nothing more infuriating than fuked up lib parents injecting their kids with this chit. Worst form of child abuse and parents should be hung (ded srs)

Poor kid didn't know chit and is dead now thanks to his dumb fuk parents.

Blood boiling

Lmao @ believing only "libs" get the vax or have their children vaxxed. Completely detached from reality.

[seanb1979]

That doesn't mean everything they do and everything they say is wrong.

What specifically in that article are you calling bs and what evidence do you have to do so

It means they are inherently corrupt. Did you miss how FDA officials are corrupt? How they passed a medication for alzheimers even when the FDA rejected it? Yes, this is exactly what it means. They are ran by evil people with profit as the only motivator - safety concerns can hurt stock so those must be hidden. If you actually trust these companies then maybe you need to read a bit more on their processes and how much money they spend in court and on politicians.

[CalmWind]

It means they are inherently corrupt. Did you miss how FDA officials are corrupt? How they passed a medication for alzheimers even when the FDA rejected it? Yes, this is exactly what it means. They are ran by evil people with profit as the only motivator - safety concerns can hurt stock so those must be hidden. If you actually trust these companies then maybe you need to read a bit more on their processes and how much money they spend in court and on politicians.

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.


- 1 Timothy 6 :10-11

[BigBallsMcgee]

Sell me on any reasoning why a normal child needs vaccination or why it's even a good idea.

Sure, these heart incidents are rare - but they're more common than 0.0002% - which is the risk covid represented BEFORE omicron. More and more we're seeing this new strain is less of a problem than a cold.

Why would a healthy child want to get vaccinated?

(Edit: after posting this, I read BigBalls state he wasn't sure about children getting vaccinated and was only pushing back on the idea that they all die when they do or something. I don't know where he came to that conclusion, I don't think anyone is saying it is killing them - just that it's risky and covid is statistically a non-risk. So, I think he kind of agrees with me, he's just more entrenched in the pro-vaccine side of things)

Exactly, I'm not against the argument that kids might not need the vaccine and it's being pushed for profits.

I am against the attempt to portray the vaccine as dangerous and people are dropping dead left and right from it because the data doesn't support it.

[HayZues Christi]

I was banned on Reddit yesterday for quoting
Ontario's public covid data lol

They were right to ban me in the sense I was only posting because I knew their minds couldn't take the reality of the data lol

Who are you accusing me of being an alt of in your neg?

So you see a 2007 join date, with pics of the same guy over last 15 yrs, and 20k+ posts, and you deduct "alt?"


Lmao. Keep doing your own research. Detective skills on point.

[Yoopwat]

Long term studies will eventually show the truth. Believe whatever you'd like.

What a massive intellectual cop out from someone slating people for believing what they like.

[5x10]

Vax defenders in da house!

Sad story, can only blame the parents

What a massive intellectual cop out from someone slating people for believing what they like.

Remember you asked that if the vax was killing people, why aren’t the all cause deaths up?

Have you checked the uk stats lately

[BigBallsMcgee]

That then leads onto the question that if it poses no benefit to certain demographics and only poses risk however small, in what way is that safe and effective?

I would call it safe and effective but unnecessary. You're saying its not necessary. They don't need it. That can be true while its also true they're safe and effective at something that kids don't need.

[Dan_S]

Damn, just noticed the injection picture is from June. Pretty scary to think everything could’ve been going great and then bam just drops dead 6 months later. Makes you think that this year is quite possibly going to be much worse with regards to this stuff.

Kept trying to tell the misc potatoes this all of 2021.

"Long term impacts unknown" doesn't mean you didn't die in the first month after getting the vaccine. Give it 5 years and we might have a better idea (which is why most FDA approvals were 10 years long).

Doctors know that "mild myocarditis" isn't a thing, and that scarring of the heart is permanent. What the medical, scientific, political, and media communities are doing is criminal. It's genocide.

[Kratos89]

What if he was just ripping fat lines with his boys on New Year's Eve?

[Yoopwat]

I would call it safe and effective but unnecessary. You're saying its not necessary. They don't need it. That can be true while its also true they're safe and effective at something that kids don't need.

But then what are you saying it’s effective at as that seems entirely dependant on the demographic that it’s given to? If you’re safer not taking it then taking it, I wouldn’t personally call it safe either though I don’t know if there’s some correct medical definition for this.

The vaccine seems great a minimising deaths to elderly and vulnerable but to everyone else it’s putting their health at risk (albeit a very small one) purely for profit and what’s worse about it is it’s being made intentionally difficult for people to be able provide informed consent

[HayZues Christi]

What a massive intellectual cop out from someone slating people for believing what they like.

Bro, the information isn't available to reach a conclusion of our discussion.

The available data still supports vax as safer than virus. I'm willing to concede more time needed to confirmnthat.

Why should I have to form a conclusion on incomplete data set? That's not how this works.

[jtaylor2010]

Vax defenders in da house!

Sad story, can only blame the parents


Remember you asked that if the vax was killing people, why aren’t the all cause deaths up?

Have you checked the uk stats lately

They’ll just move the goalposts once again and say “well yeah, but that could be from complications of long Covid”. And yes, there could be some truth to that, but that doesn’t automatically mean it explains it all. We know the injections are harmful. Hell, we’ve had entire countries suspend injections due to concerns with heart issues(along with tons of data and anecdotal evidence) and still have people in this thread going “maybe it could cause heart problems but we don’t really know yet”. Or they’ll go “yeah but it’s more likely you’ll have heart problems from the actual virus”…as if the studies could show that….not to mention there is a much MUCH weaker variant going around now. We’ve all heard the phrase “the truth they use to sell the lie”. These days it seems like all it takes is an ounce of truth and you can sell a ton of lies.

[BigBallsMcgee]

But then what are you saying it’s effective at as that seems entirely dependant on the demographic that it’s given to? If you’re safer not taking it then taking it, I wouldn’t personally call it safe either though I don’t know if there’s some correct medical definition for this.

The vaccine seems great a minimising deaths to elderly and vulnerable but to everyone else it’s putting their health at risk (albeit a very small one) purely for profit and what’s worse about it is it’s being made intentionally difficult for people to be able provide informed consent

Basically I agree with this. Some countries are focused on vaxxing those most at risk and I think that's better than trying to shove it down everyone's throat regardless of risk.

However, again consider the math. People itt love saying 1% death rate. I% of everyone in America is still millions of people.

Ultimately as an individual with low risk it makes sense to say you don't need it. But as a public health issue it makes some sense to want everyone as protected as possible.

[StelioK]

Probably coincidence.

In other news, a 70 year old with diabetes, bp issues and 300 lb bodyweight, dies with covid. The deathliness of covid is something to be feared, let's lockdown everything, give more powers to the goverment and hunt down the dissidents.

[John$Galt]

what about the part where myocarditis is way more common as a side effect of covid than the vaccine. How do you know covid itself isnt more of a factor

If you believe the flu, for the first time ever, is causing heart attacks in children and young healthy people, and not this new experimental synthetic mRNA injection that many, many doctors and professionals are warning ARE causing them, then we have nothing to talk about.

A virus causing heart attacks? Or a new injection that causes the body to produce spike proteins that clog up the capillaries in the lungs and throughout the body?

These young folks dying of heart issues "because of covid" are all fukking vaxxed up, retard.

2k is accurate.

That's about 6 per day.

What about this specific one is OBVIOUSLY vax related?

Possibly? Sure... Obviously? That is devoid of logic. Takes more faith than reasoning to reach such a hardlined conclusion.

As I said above, minus the "retard" quip at the end, it just seems pretty self evident and logical that the vaxx is causing heart issues, NOT a fukkin virus. Just based on what the vaxx does to the body, it's pretty obvious to me. I ain't never heard of no fkn virus that causes heart attacks in healthy children.

[TonyTriangles]

exactly why i wont let my kids get the shot.

[Ken-O]

Exactly, I'm not against the argument that kids might not need the vaccine and it's being pushed for profits.

I am against the attempt to portray the vaccine as dangerous and people are dropping dead left and right from it because the data doesn't support it.

I dont think anybody is saying people are dropping dead left and right due to the covid vaxx, there isnt evidence to support this (so far). Most anti vaxxers (for covid) however believe that:


1) For the majority of people, especially young people that dont have serious health issues, the risk-benefit of taking the vaxx isnt worth it, they say this based on the recent rise of "unexpected deaths" which COULD be due to the vax, and even if at the moment isnt perfectly clear that the vaxxes are to blame, there is however a relatively high chance they are, and gauging the decision based on the fact that covid, especially the new variants, wont really affect a healthy person, the idea that THEY MUST TAKE IT or else they will be isolated from society is absolutely ridiculous

2) The social shaming and pressuring of the unvaccinated is ridiculous as well, vaxx mandates, people not being able to live their lives normally just to protect people that have made bad health decisions their entire lives (fatness, smoking, etc)

3) The absolute denial of the vaxxed people and the refusal to aknowledge that the billionares pushing this narrative may not have our best interest in mind

4) The censoring on all media of the experts that are against the vax mandates, which is incredibly suspicious and malicious IMO.




Personally the latter two bother me the most by far.

[AncientYouth]

i'll take the vaccine

when they mandate: maintaining a healthy bodyweight, ban smoking and alcohol, regular exercise, 8 hours sleep a night and healthy food

[Natty99]

Could be coincidence. Who knows. If zyzz got the covid vaxx and died from a heart attack it would probably be blamed on the vaxx and not on heart defect/drugs/DNP.

Only issues with covid politics

1. Regular every day people and main stream media are allowed to influence people to get the vaccine. This is scientifically unethical, however, only researchers are held to that standard. Freedom of speech is a double edged sword.

2. Parkway and broadway on monopoly. You telling me some CEO aint gonna milk the **** out of those properties if they are the first to land on it? Of course not. A local covid testing clinic is making $45k a day and only pays the employees $17-22 an hour. A Mcdonalds makes $45k in 2 months and pays employees $15 an hour. Think about it, people are getting filthy rich. The more people who fear covid = more business = profit and make your entire blood line rich for years to come.


First it's 6,000,000 hand guns sold in the USA during the george floyd protests

Then it's covid and people panic buying. Online retailers and big box stores stocks are the highest they ever been at. People who bought stocks on March 22-23 2020 now have their portfolios increased by 30%-10000%

Then it's gamestop to the moon. The squeeze already happened and many sheep are still falling for the trap.

People don't care about health, they just care about riding the train and making tons of money.

[ViolentZ]

Pfizer’s documents have a study with 2.9% of adverse reactions as deaths

https://yournews.com/2021/12/05/2261...about-pfizers/

give me a better source and i will click on that link

2. Parkway and broadway on monopoly. You telling me some CEO aint gonna milk the **** out of those properties if they are the first to land on it? Of course not. A local covid testing clinic is making $45k a day and only pays the employees $17-22 an hour. A Mcdonalds makes $45k in 2 months and pays employees $15 an hour. Think about it, people are getting filthy rich. The more people who fear covid = more business = profit and make your entire blood line rich for years to come.

covid clinics dont dicate the policy


and are u gonna complain some ****s are making hella dolla or will u participate in this covid business ? pfizer stocks are public ya retard