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    May 7, 2022

    Snatch Grip Deadlift: 275 pounds x 8/7/7 reps
    Paused Sumo Deadlift: 275 pounds x 8 reps

    Snatch Grip deads kicked my butt. Realized afterward that I read the program wrong and had more weight on the bar than I should have. Had 3 sets of 8 scheduled on the paused sumo deads. Got the first set in and then got pulled away and wasn't able to get back to finish. Probably not a bad thing though, since I still ended up with pretty severe DOM's the following morning.
    Relative stayed with us this weekend, plus Mothers Day - result was I had no opportunity to lift. Should hopefully get back on schedule today.
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    I’ve had a couple workouts I didn’t log here yet, like recent ones. Stair climber and machines

    Although these workouts are different, they aren’t easy. Last time I had a hard time moving around afterwards
    Best lifts:
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    Squat: 465x1
    Strict press: 185x8, 195x5, 215x1
    Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
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    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    Eli some days it just be like that. After you finish the program might be worth exploring some other creative options for your bench if it fails to budge.

    Sometimes hammering the really high RPE stuff can knock you down a peg before adapting and hopefully making gains.
    Really impressive work, especially for being mildly sick still.

    Yeah, it might, although one detail I forgot to mention is that I went to my less-frequented gym, and had to set the bench up at the power rack. The safeties were already placed just about exactly at depth, but once I began my working sets, I found that it was actually hitting this and dead-stopping the bar, so these were essentially a form of paused rep, and maybe I wouldn't have encountered that level of difficulty had they all been free T&G, despite whatever weakness I was feeling yesterday. For that reason, I'm tempted to proceed with the same programming since it was an anomaly, but am not 100% about that, either.

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    Squat:
    325 x 3, 330 x 3, 335 x 3 @9, 8.5, 9

    Knee-Pause Deadlift:
    2 x 6 at 335

    - Optional Exercise 1: Seated Calf Raise: -
    3 x 6 w/ 115 added (paused reps)

    - Optional Exercise 2: Leg Extension Machine: -
    3 x 10 at 160 (paused reps)

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    Deadlift: 505

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    May 9, 2022
    3 Count Paused Bench Press: 170 pounds x 1 rep
    Close Grip Bench Press: 120 pounds - 3 sets x 8 reps
    Lat Pulldown: 4 Chains - 3 sets x 15 reps

    The 3 count bench is now pretty much maxed out - this single was close to a 9 RPE. I have it scheduled once more in this cycle at 175, which I expect will be at or over a 9 RPE. I'll probably swap it out for something else after that.
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    Another one of these workouts, but I did the stair climber at the end. And instead of a long duration at a moderate speed, I basically did a few 1 minute sprints followed by 1 minute rest

    Also my abs are so tired that if im lying down I can’t just get up. I need to rollover to get up or grab onto something
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    I seem to have reached something of a mini plateau for the bench press - I've been stuck on the same weight and reps for three weeks now and I'm bulking. First working set O RIR, last two sets 1 RIR.

    10 x 66lb
    5 x 99lb
    3 x 121lb
    1 x 143lb, 2.5 min rest
    5 x 143lb, 2.5 min rest
    7 x 127lb, 2.5 min rest
    6 x 127lb, 2.5 min rest
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    Originally Posted by RapidFail View Post
    I seem to have reached something of a mini plateau for the bench press - I've been stuck on the same weight and reps for three weeks now and I'm bulking. First working set O RIR, last two sets 1 RIR.

    10 x 30kg
    5 x 45kg
    3 x 55kg
    1 x 65kg, 2.5 min rest
    5 x 65kg, 2.5 min rest
    7 x 57.5kg, 2.5 min rest
    6 x 57.5kg, 2.5 min rest
    Lower the rpe a little on the first set. Absolutely zero need to take that so. Close to failure at all... Destroy the reps! every rep Controlled violence. Control/pause/explode
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    [QUOTE=RapidFail;1661069003]I seem to have reached something of a mini plateau for the bench press - I've been stuck on the same weight and reps for three weeks now and I'm bulking. First working set O RIR, last two sets 1 RIR.

    10 x 30kg
    5 x 45kg
    3 x 55kg
    1 x 65kg, 2.5 min rest
    5 x 65kg, 2.5 min rest
    7 x 57.5kg, 2.5 min rest
    6 x 57.5kg, 2.5 min rest[/QUOTE


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    C6W Week Four - Heavy Weight Acclimation

    Tuesday, training day 2/4


    A.S.
    Pendlay Row:
    225 x 10, 225 x 10, 235 x 8, 245 x 6
    Bench (T&G):
    270 x 3, 280 x 3, 285 x 3 @8, 9, 10

    A.S.
    Standing OHP:
    100 x 12, 100 x 12, 105 x 10, 110 x 8
    Lat Pulldown:
    170 x 12, 170 x 12, 190 x 10, 210 x 8

    A.S.
    - Optional Exercise 1: DB Lateral Raise -
    4 x 8 w/ 30s
    - Optional Exercise 2: Standing Barbell Curl -
    4 x 8 at 100

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    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    Lower the rpe a little on the first set. Absolutely zero need to take that so. Close to failure at all... Destroy the reps! every rep Controlled violence. Control/pause/explode
    I thought about that. In a way I have progressed because in the first week of the meso, my fifth rep of the first set was super grindy with bad form, but the last two weeks have been 5 clean reps with 0 RIR. I try to stay 1-2 RIR for subsequent sets but always take the first set to 0-1 RIR.

    I also don't pause for the bench - touch and go without any bounce - or I would be lifting even less weight. Perhaps switching to a paused bench for the next Meso would be a good idea?
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    Paused Low Bar Squat: 160 pounds x 8/7 reps
    High Bar Squat: 155 pounds x 8 reps

    I went into this workout not expecting to be able to complete the whole thing. I programmed it as if I were fully acclimated to squatting (even though I know I'm not right now), and planned to slowly work up to full capacity. Program for today called for 3 sets of 8/7/7 on paused squats, and then 3 sets of 8 at 160 on high bar squats. Next week I will probably start out at 155 on the paused squats and try to get 3 sets in, then see what I can do with high bar afterward.
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    Transitioning back into a slightly higher volume phase with higher reps for a bit while the diet continues on.

    Leverages are changing a bit so need to get used to them.

    I’m also increasing the cardio so no need to kill myself recovery wise.


    High Bar Squat
    Set 1: 135 lb × 10 [Warm-up]
    Set 2: 225 lb × 5 [Warm-up]
    Set 3: 315 lb × 1 [Warm-up]
    Set 4: 345 lb × 10 @ 7.5
    Set 5: 320 lb × 10 @ 7
    Set 6: 320 lb × 10 @ 7
    Set 7: 320 lb × 10 @ 7.5
    Set 8: 320 lb × 10 @ 8

    Low Pin Bench Press
    Set 1: 45 lb × 10 [Warm-up]
    Set 2: 135 lb × 5 [Warm-up]
    Set 3: 185 lb × 3 [Warm-up]
    Set 4: 225 lb × 6 @ 7
    Set 5: 225 lb × 6 @ 7
    Set 6: 225 lb × 6 @ 7.5

    Off the chest feels a little weak to me right now, so incorporating pin bench now to work on explosiveness.

    I think I milked my standard bench for along time now. Close to 8/9 months?, so gonna be heavy on variations for a while as I work on weak points. To see if we can keep that bench creeping up as I continue my fat loss phase.

    Leg Extension (Machine)
    Set 1: 100 lb × 17 @ 7.5
    Set 2: 100 lb × 16 @ 7.5
    Set 3: 100 lb × 16 @ 7.5
    Set 4: 100 lb × 15 @ 7.5

    Standing Russian Twist
    Set 1: 25 lb × 18 @ 7
    Set 2: 25 lb × 18 @ 7.5
    Set 3: 25 lb × 16 @ 7.5
    Set 4: 25 lb × 16 @ 8

    Cable Y Raise
    Set 1: 15 lb × 20
    Set 2: 15 lb × 20
    Set 3: 15 lb × 18
    Set 4: 10 lb × 10 [Drop Set]

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    Good stuff Filmbuff! Around how far is the bar from your chest on the low pin press?


    May 11, 2022
    Floor Press: 140 pounds x 8/8/7 reps
    Larsen Press: 130 pound - 4 sets x 8 reps
    Cable Row: 4 Chains - 3 sets x 15 reps

    After feeling like a struggle last week, this went relatively smoothly today. Must be acclimating to the narrower grip already, which is encouraging. Also continuing to work on technique with small adjustments that seem to be helping.
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    Good stuff Filmbuff! Around how far is the bar from your chest on the low pin press?


    May 11, 2022
    Floor Press: 140 pounds x 8/8/7 reps
    Larsen Press: 130 pound - 4 sets x 8 reps
    Cable Row: 4 Chains - 3 sets x 15 reps

    After feeling like a struggle last week, this went relatively smoothly today. Must be acclimating to the narrower grip already, which is encouraging. Also continuing to work on technique with small adjustments that seem to be helping.
    Nice work.

    And it’s around .5-1” off my chest. Just enough that I can release the weight then press really hard while keeping it fairly close to my normal bench.

    I’ll see if I can record a video next week.
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    Low Incline Bench Press
    Set 1: 45 lb × 15 [Warm-up]
    Set 2: 95 lb × 5 [Warm-up]
    Set 3: 135 lb × 3 [Warm-up]
    Set 4: 185 lb × 10 @ 6.5
    Set 5: 185 lb × 10 @ 7
    Set 6: 185 lb × 10 @ 7

    Parallel Pulldown
    Set 1: 100 lb × 10 [Warm-up]
    Set 2: 120 lb × 18 @ 7
    Set 3: 120 lb × 17 @ 7
    Set 4: 120 lb × 15 @ 7

    Lateral Raise (Cable)
    Set 1: 7.5 lb × 25 [Warm-up]
    Set 2: 10 lb × 20 @ 6.5
    Set 3: 10 lb × 20 @ 7
    Set 4: 10 lb × 20 @ 7

    Notes: Behind the back

    Chest Dip
    Set 1: 20 reps @ 7
    Set 2: 16 reps @ 7
    Set 3: 15 reps @ 7

    Hammer Curl (Dumbbell)
    Set 1: 25 lb × 20 @ 7
    Set 2: 25 lb × 18 @ 8
    Set 3: 25 lb × 15 @ 9

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    C6W Week Four - Heavy Weight Acclimation

    Thursday, training day 3/4


    Squat:
    335 x 3, 345 x 1-2 (2 achieved @9)

    Deadlift:
    435 x 3, 450 x 1-2 (2 achieved ~@8)

    A.S.
    - Optional Exercise 1: Hip Abductor Machine -
    3 x 15 at 100 (paused)
    - Optional Exercise 2: Hip Adductor Machine -
    3 x 15 at 100 (paused)

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    Squat: 405
    Deadlift: 505

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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    C6W Week Four - Heavy Weight Acclimation

    Thursday, training day 3/4


    Squat:
    335 x 3, 345 x 1-2 (2 achieved @9)

    Deadlift:
    435 x 3, 450 x 1-2 (2 achieved ~@8)

    A.S.
    - Optional Exercise 1: Hip Abductor Machine -
    3 x 15 at 100 (paused)
    - Optional Exercise 2: Hip Adductor Machine -
    3 x 15 at 100 (paused)

    Comments:
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    I watched the video before reading the spoiler and your workout and your RPE/RIR scale looks pretty dang accurate.

    Deadlifts looked easy.

    Squat I think you maybe even were an 8-8.5 but anything within that margin of error is really good.

    And since you went slightly out of position on the 2nd rep that probably would cause the higher RPE. So I could definitely see @9 for technical/form failure.

    But looking very solid.

    It may be worth looking down about 15 feet ahead of you on squats.

    Since you are squatting low bar, it would probably give you a little more power to explode up.

    Head position reminds me more of a high bar squat but with the low bar mechanics.

    But that’s minutia and more about experimenting with efficiency.

    And I wouldn’t suggest changing it right now. I’d wait for a time when you’re working with lower weights on a more technique focused day.

    Also maybe a tad more speed on your descent to get a little more bounce out of the hole.
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    Eli - I think it's been a while since I watched one of your squat videos. You've made great strides on that lift - it's looking very good. Deads are strong as usual.


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    Snatch Grip Deadlift: 265 pounds x 8/8/7 reps
    Romanian Deadlift: 235 pounds - 4 sets x 8 reps

    This wiped me out. Guess it's to be expected with this volume on deads. Kung Fu class tomorrow, so it will probably turn into a rest day just because of time limitations.
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    Thanks guys. It's a big relief to have shored up a glaring weak-point which I used to consistently neglect, and then struggled with form on for a long time after getting serious. Even if the weight isn't anything to brag about, it's still a liberating feeling just having the confidence to perform the lift correctly and challenge myself on that turf.

    Film, good pointers, thanks. I wasn't even thinking about head position at all, for instance. I was however consciously descending a bit slower on the filmed set, because I fell a little too fast on the last rep of the first working set and lost a bit of brace at the bottom because of it. So, working on the brace even more might be a good idea so that I don't have the trade-off of explosiveness?

    Also, is there a more or less strict criterion to differentiate high vs. low bar? There's a natural "slot" between my traps and rear delts where the bar easily fits. It's not literally on my upper traps, but I have seen some low bar squats which were conspicuously much farther down on the back. Just unsure of the technical difference.

    CW, were you going for 8 on that last set of snatch grip DL? High rep deadlifts always seem like a guaranteed wipeout. In my case it always seems to zero-sum and reward with notably higher passive levels of energy, post-recovery.
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    Thanks guys. It's a big relief to have shored up a glaring weak-point which I used to consistently neglect, and then struggled with form on for a long time after getting serious. Even if the weight isn't anything to brag about, it's still a liberating feeling just having the confidence to perform the lift correctly and challenge myself on that turf.

    Film, good pointers, thanks. I wasn't even thinking about head position at all, for instance. I was however consciously descending a bit slower on the filmed set, because I fell a little too fast on the last rep of the first working set and lost a bit of brace at the bottom because of it. So, working on the brace even more might be a good idea so that I don't have the trade-off of explosiveness?

    Also, is there a more or less strict criterion to differentiate high vs. low bar? There's a natural "slot" between my traps and rear delts where the bar easily fits. It's not literally on my upper traps, but I have seen some low bar squats which were conspicuously much farther down on the back. Just unsure of the technical difference.

    CW, were you going for 8 on that last set of snatch grip DL? High rep deadlifts always seem like a guaranteed wipeout. In my case it always seems to zero-sum and reward with notably higher passive levels of energy, post-recovery.
    You squat more of a hybrid low bar like me then.

    I don’t go crazy low either. Some people have it very low ala starting strength.

    I’d say just stick to what you’re doing then and eventually you can play with finessing things.

    As you get used to heavier weights your bracing will get better. Not every rep is gonna be perfect, I wouldn’t be scared to up the descent speed a little bit.

    Whatever you decide to do after this program, I think pin squats would be beneficial for training being explosive
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    I was not going for 8 on the final set. For that exercise I'm adding a rep each week through a 3 week cycle. Week one is 8/7/7, week two 8/8/7, week three 8/8/8. This was the second week.
    Any yeah I've largely steered away from higher reps on deads, but they seem to be working well. I'm not having any issues with recovery and I'm getting stronger. So I will be sticking with it as long as it keeps resulting in progress.
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    Paused Deadlift
    Set 1: 135 lb × 5 [Warm-up]
    Set 2: 225 lb × 3 [Warm-up]
    Set 3: 315 lb × 6 @ 7
    Set 4: 285 lb × 6 @ 6.5
    Set 5: 285 lb × 6 @ 7
    Set 6: 285 lb × 6 @ 7.5

    Workout Notes: Paused just below knee for 2-3 seconds
    Top set beltless strapless
    Down sets beltless with straps

    Bulgarian Split Squat
    Set 1: 0 lb × 8 [Warm-up]
    Set 2: 35 lb × 12 @ 6.5
    Set 3: 35 lb × 12 @ 6.5
    Set 4: 35 lb × 12 @ 7

    Seated Leg Curl (Machine)
    Set 1: 85 lb × 20 @ 7
    Set 2: 85 lb × 18 @ 7
    Set 3: 85 lb × 18 @ 7.5
    Set 4: 85 lb × 18 @ 8

    Ab Wheel
    Set 1: 17 reps @ 7
    Set 2: 16 reps @ 7
    Set 3: 16 reps @ 7.5

    Still can’t shake this chest cold. Coughing up green again.

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    ^^ That's some hard training in spite of the nasty symptoms. It's annoying how long colds linger sometimes.

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    Friday, training day 4/4


    A.S.
    Pendlay Row:
    235 x 10, 235 x 10, 245 x 8, 265 x 6
    Bench (T&G):
    275 x 3, 285 x 2-4 (4 achieved @9), 300 x 1-2 (2 achieved @9.5)

    A.S.
    Standing OHP:
    100 x 12, 100 x 12, 105 x 10, 115 x 8
    Lat Pulldown:
    170 x 12, 170 x 12, 190 x 10, 210 x 8

    -Optional Exercise 1: DB Lateral Raise-
    3 x 10 w/ 25s
    -Optional Exercise 2: Barbell Curl-
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    Great work chaps!

    Yesterday i did a high volume football bar bench session, and battered my triceps with btn laying triceps extentions. Finished with a tonne of band rows & pulls

    Today I did some bits, bench - bunch of sub max singles, good long pause up to 120*1@6.5-7
    Hugely out of practice really 😂

    Then some ssb box squats - only light as hell till my hips get used to them, x wide stance to a v low box.
    Even more out of practice 😂 first squats in about a year? First leg training this year if you don't count deads.
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    Haven't logged in a while. BW hovering between 192 and 195 and I am eating more and trying to slowly recomp. Just felt like trying to cut fast would lead to another period of overeating so I just have to play the long game and slowly lean out and try to build better food habits again.

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    Bulgarian split squats 225*10, added 1 rep to these in about a month lol but I guess I should be happy as I've dropped 7 pounds
    Tuck lever rows (on rings) 16 reps
    Back extensions 110*22
    Bodyweight leg extensions*10
    Isolation work (db curls, skullcrushers)
    Reverse grip pushups 20-15

    Shoulders are slowly improving, there is still pain during pushing exercises but it's less pronounced. Regular deadhangs + various high rep shoulder raises really help. External rotation has improved a lot.
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    Incline Bench Press: 160 pounds x 1 rep
    Close Grip Bench Press: 125 pounds - 3 sets x 8 reps
    Lat Pulldown: 4 Chains - 2 sets x 20 reps

    Took an extra day of rest and I was feeling fresh. Incline bench was smooth - around an 8 RPE. The rest of the workout went very well also.

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    Incline Bench Press: 160 pounds x 1 rep
    Close Grip Bench Press: 125 pounds - 3 sets x 8 reps
    Lat Pulldown: 4 Chains - 2 sets x 20 reps

    Took an extra day of rest and I was feeling fresh. Incline bench was smooth - around an 8 RPE. The rest of the workout went very well also.

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    Chill day since I’m still feeling pretty sick.

    But wanted to do something.

    So just did a couple of big lifts then chopped out my accessory work.

    Spoto Press
    265 3x5

    Felt very easy

    Paused High Bar Squat

    325 4x6

    Also very easy

    Lifts were surprisingly strong considering how ****ty I felt so I’ll take it.
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    Today's workout:

    Weighted chins 6*70 added
    18 bodyweight wide grip pullups
    Ring facepulls 8-7
    Single leg calf raises 25 reps

    Seem to be bursting through the plateau from last time I was doing weighted chins, hope to reach 100*4-5 but I think it's likely to stop before I reach that point. Previous 1RM is 100 added so anything beyond 1 rep with 100 added is going to be a win
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    Sooo.
    Bought a nice new comp power bar.
    Couldn't wedge under the bar to squat....

    Well, Could hibar but what's the point in that. That's a variation. ;D

    Man has a year+ worth of mobility to regain.
    Did quite enjoy the movement pattern again, probably had enough time away from the big S.
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