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    I'll be happy to join as the weakest guy in the thread! In 2021, which was my third year of lifting consistently with proper programming, my main goal was to do a greater than bodyweight squat, which I managed to do for a triple. My main goal this year is a greater than bodyweight bench press. The heaviest I have benched to date is 65kg (143lb) for 4 reps. My weight is currently floating between 74.5kg and 76kg, but I plan on bulking up to 81-82kg by October. Bench sessions so far this year have been:

    4 Jan
    10 x 50kg
    9 x 50kg
    8 x 50kg

    13 Jan
    9 x 55kg
    8 x 55kg
    7 x 55kg
    6 x 55kg
    Training log:
    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=181179323&p=1658333353#post1658333353

    Age: 38
    Height: 185cm (6'1")
    Weight: 80.2kg (176.8lb)

    Personal best lifts
    Bench - 5 x 65kg (143lb), 7 x 62.5kg (138lb)
    Bent Over Row - 10 x 70kg (154lb)
    Front squat - 5 x 67.5kg (149lb)
    Back squat - 3 x 80kg (176lb), 8 x 75kg (165lb)
    RDL - 9 x 85kg (187lb)
    Deadlift - 6 x 105kg (231.5lb)
    Overhead Press - 6 x 40kg (88lb)
    Chin Ups - 7 x bodyweight + 12.5kg (27.5lb), 14 x bodyweight
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    I get plenty of caffeine, but it's pretty much never for workout purposes.
    Finding the same thing with the covid. I had a very minimal symptoms, but even after 3 weeks I still feel extreme fatigue at times. Still been having workouts where I'm fried after pretty minimal work, while other days I feel mostly fine. The more sleep I get the better (shocker, lol).


    Here are my last 2 workouts:
    January 11, 2022: DB Bench Press
    50's - 2 sets x 3 reps
    60's - 4 sets x 3 reps

    I've done DB work so infrequently over the last 2 years that it all feels very uncomfortable right now, though I'm sure I'll be reacclimated after a couple more rounds of it.


    January 13, 2022: Yoke Bar Squat
    Main Work: 225 pounds x 1 rep [8 RPE]
    Back off Work: 155 pounds + 2 chains x 3 reps

    A little more comfortable this time around. I used J-Cups instead of the mono's and that felt better. Just need to figure out the setup/bracing routine since it's quite different.
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    Originally Posted by CW47 View Post
    I get plenty of caffeine, but it's pretty much never for workout purposes.
    Finding the same thing with the covid. I had a very minimal symptoms, but even after 3 weeks I still feel extreme fatigue at times. Still been having workouts where I'm fried after pretty minimal work, while other days I feel mostly fine. The more sleep I get the better (shocker, lol).


    Here are my last 2 workouts:
    January 11, 2022: DB Bench Press
    50's - 2 sets x 3 reps
    60's - 4 sets x 3 reps

    I've done DB work so infrequently over the last 2 years that it all feels very uncomfortable right now, though I'm sure I'll be reacclimated after a couple more rounds of it.


    January 13, 2022: Yoke Bar Squat
    Main Work: 225 pounds x 1 rep [8 RPE]
    Back off Work: 155 pounds + 2 chains x 3 reps

    A little more comfortable this time around. I used J-Cups instead of the mono's and that felt better. Just need to figure out the setup/bracing routine since it's quite different.
    Nice job and yeah I’m finding sleep even more important this time around for recovery lol.

    A friend currently going through it described it perfectly. It feels like having mono.

    Looks like recovery methods are gonna be even more important going forward.

    I’ve actually forced myself to eat some big meals the last 2 days to aid in recovery even if it means putting on a Couple pounds this week.
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    Originally Posted by Camarija View Post
    I haven't used a pre-workout in a while, or any caffeine for that matter, for maybe 5 or 6 months.
    I'm in the last week of my first of three consecutive bulking mesocycles.
    Deload week coming up next week.
    So for fun I decided to try a promotional pre-workout that was given to me a while back.



    Only half a Scoop and holy wow, amazing concentration, laser focus, good energy.
    It didn't improve my lifts, but it made my session a lot more fun tbh.

    Does anyone here regularly use caffeine or pre-workouts?
    I've pretty much stopped using them except for rare occasions like at the end of a mesocycle.

    Cheers bros!

    Tired dad checking in.

    I take pre-workout, have coffee, and usually have 1-2 monster zeros a day lol.
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    @RapidFail, welcome! Feel free to join in.

    Regarding caffeine, frequent and moderately heavy user here. Anymore as an adult, it's not necessarily extreme every day, but I have at least a couple cups of coffee worth on average: sometimes way more, sometimes (albeit quite rarely) little or none. As like a 12-13 year old kid, I would come home from school and drink most of a pot of coffee every day, and regularly have energy drinks as well. I don't think it's potent enough to have caused developmental problems or anything, however.

    Kind of unique and interesting that several of us are struggling with a prolonged recovery from covid simultaneously and at the very beginning of the new year... Should make for a good point of contrast at the end of it.

    Going to bench today, unsure whether to go high reps or keep the weight up there. Either way, I'm just going to do a few sets and keep it short. 5 x 10 at 225 or 4 x 8 at 245 most likely.
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    A.S.
    Flat Bench (T&G):
    225 x 10, 10, 10, 8, 8
    Chest-Supported T-Bar Row:
    115 added x 10, 10, 10, 10

    Not my best work, but it's getting back up there and is better than last time. On a good day I can get 225 for 5 sets of 10, but on the fourth, hit @9 on the 8th rep and decided it'd be better to stop and duplicate for the fifth set rather than proceed on to failure.

    Does anyone know what an approximate equivalent Pendlay would be to a T-Bar w/ 115 added? I don't usually do them so don't know how to compare, plus I don't know how much the arm weighs (Hammer Strength). Felt comparable to 205ish. I've got to say, though, controlling the ecentric and sparing my aching legs for torso work was a nice change of pace.
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    I never regularly consumed caffeine until around the time I started proper resistance training, which also happened to be the time that my wife bought a coffee machine (Breville espresso machine - it's so good!). I have a black coffee (2 shots) with no sugar on the mornings I train and usually a diet soda in the afternoon, sometimes a second coffee. When I'm not training I have my coffee with a cup of whole milk and also no sugar.

    Wondering who else here trains at home and if anyone else has to be a parent during their workouts? I usually train around 5am before work, but as I'm on holidays at the moment I train around 7:30am, which means I'm making breakfasts, wiping butts and breaking up fights between sets! I'll sometimes train in the evening to avoid this, but my motivation to train is much lower them and my performance usually suffers a little.
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    Eli - Good job just getting in some work right now. Anything chest supported is obviously going to allow you to lift far less weight, but I have no idea on what the specific ration would be between that and a Pendlay Row. It will also depend a lot upon what the setup is for the chest supported rows, since they can vary pretty significantly.

    RapidFail - I just realize that I've been reading you username incorrectly as Rapidfall all along, lol. Welcome to the thread. No worries about how much you're lifting. I was, and still am, lifting quite a bit less than everyone else in here, but it really doesn't matter. We're all working towards similar goals.
    I work out at home, typically when I'm home alone with 2 kids and a dog. Trying to fit it in around making dinner, changing diapers, etc, etc. You'll notice that my workouts are pretty minimalistic. I've found it's FAR easier for me to fit in a 15-20 minute workout 5-7 days per week than it is to do an hour 3-4 days per week.


    January 14, 2022: Speed Bench Press
    95 pounds + 2 mini bands: 8 sets x 3 reps
    Managed 2 more sets than last time, and energy level was still good at the end - just trying not to overdo it right now.
    I was disappointed by the poor technique after watching the video footage afterward. There was some good - lower body tension and stability were pretty consistent. Touch point was inconsistent though, and I didn't keep my elbows under the bar on several of the reps. I was just trying to go too quickly. Still, I'm happy to have got through these sets in a timely manner and not feel exhausted.
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    Originally Posted by CW47 View Post
    Eli - Good job just getting in some work right now. Anything chest supported is obviously going to allow you to lift far less weight, but I have no idea on what the specific ration would be between that and a Pendlay Row. It will also depend a lot upon what the setup is for the chest supported rows, since they can vary pretty significantly.

    RapidFail - I just realize that I've been reading you username incorrectly as Rapidfall all along, lol. Welcome to the thread. No worries about how much you're lifting. I was, and still am, lifting quite a bit less than everyone else in here, but it really doesn't matter. We're all working towards similar goals.
    I work out at home, typically when I'm home alone with 2 kids and a dog. Trying to fit it in around making dinner, changing diapers, etc, etc. You'll notice that my workouts are pretty minimalistic. I've found it's FAR easier for me to fit in a 15-20 minute workout 5-7 days per week than it is to do an hour 3-4 days per week.


    January 14, 2022: Speed Bench Press
    95 pounds + 2 mini bands: 8 sets x 3 reps
    Managed 2 more sets than last time, and energy level was still good at the end - just trying not to overdo it right now.
    I was disappointed by the poor technique after watching the video footage afterward. There was some good - lower body tension and stability were pretty consistent. Touch point was inconsistent though, and I didn't keep my elbows under the bar on several of the reps. I was just trying to go too quickly. Still, I'm happy to have got through these sets in a timely manner and not feel exhausted.
    Thanks mate, yeah, it's hard for me to fit in more than an hour, especially before work. What I'll sometimes do is split the workout in two ans do the last 2-3 exercises in the evening. For anyone wondering, my username isn't relating to my lifting at all - it's an old name I used for gaming.
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    I never regularly consumed caffeine until around the time I started proper resistance training, which also happened to be the time that my wife bought a coffee machine (Breville espresso machine - it's so good!). I have a black coffee (2 shots) with no sugar on the mornings I train and usually a diet soda in the afternoon, sometimes a second coffee. When I'm not training I have my coffee with a cup of whole milk and also no sugar.

    Wondering who else here trains at home and if anyone else has to be a parent during their workouts? I usually train around 5am before work, but as I'm on holidays at the moment I train around 7:30am, which means I'm making breakfasts, wiping butts and breaking up fights between sets! I'll sometimes train in the evening to avoid this, but my motivation to train is much lower them and my performance usually suffers a little.
    Raised a gaggle of kids and my training fell to almost non existent for stretches due to no sleep and crazy amounts of busy after work time with kids. Even now, as they are all teens, after work training is nearly impossible due to taxi duty with kids. Like you, there’s only so much time before work so sometimes finding 20-30 min after to finish a lift is necessary.
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    You know I've always found it interesting that I used to have all the time in the world as a single person, and had very little discipline and hardly got anything of value done. As my life has become busier and I've accumulated more commitments, I've become more disciplined and get a lot more done even though I don't have time to do anything, lmao! It's a weird thing though - I see the same thing with others. I suppose we adapt to our situation, and when time is at a premium we just find ways to make better use of it.


    January 15, 2022: Sumo Deadlift
    365 pounds x 1 rep [8 RPE]
    315 x 1/1/1

    Was kind of sloppy today. Not sure why, but I just wasn't very focused.
    Top single at 365 felt like a true 8 RPE, and looked smooth on the video.
    I'm trying to work up to around 6 singles for the back off work, but the fatigue started to hit hard after 3 so I called it there. Probably could've made it to 6 if I'd kept the top single at a 6-7 RPE, but oh well...
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    Finally got a workout in.
    Sumo DL: 365X4/375X4/385X4/395X2 (Slipping grip)/405x3 (grips)/ 425x1

    Not much weight but best since moving into the van.
    Got some higher rep squats, single leg Romanian DL, Arnold press, and dumbbell rows in.
    2022 -- Just maintaining and doing the van life
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    2020......................375 / 285 / 505..............186 lbs
    Pre-COVID..............335 / 295 / 499..............185 lbs
    July 1, 2019................9 week cut.................164 lbs
    Late April 2019.........285 / 275 / 440.............178 lbs
    Oct, 2018..............175x6 / 145x6 / 275x5......163 lbs
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    Gyms open on Tuesday.

    As tired as I still feel, I’ll be getting back on the horse and starting a new cut after basically 6 months of massing after my car accident.

    Shoulders/arms/back definitely got bigger, but I’m looking a tad sloppy lolz. So I’ll be getting back on the horse.

    My training is still undecided but I’ll sort it out shortly.
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    Originally Posted by jademonkey View Post
    Finally got a workout in.
    Sumo DL: 365X4/375X4/385X4/395X2 ( Slipping grip )/405x3 (grips)/ 425x1

    Not much weight but best since moving into the van.
    Got some higher rep squats, single leg Romanian DL, Arnold press, and dumbbell rows in.

    Buy some ****ing climbing chalk already 😂
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    Jade - I know it's a lighter weight than you're accustomed to, but well done considering the circumstances.
    Filmbuff - Nice! Hopefully the gym will stay open for a while and you'll be able to get in some consistent work.


    January 16, 2022: Feet up Bench
    135 pounds - 6 sets x 4 reps

    Increased from 3 to 4 reps. It was maybe equal, or even just a little bit easier than last time around. Technique was MUCH better than the speed work I did 2 days ago. Not sure if I'll increase to 5 reps or increase the weight next time around - I'll make the decision on the day.
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    CW, do you still have that bar that bounces and rebounds? I remember in the 2020 thread you used it and it was incredibly shaky. Might be good for stability work if you're doing feet-up lately.

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    Yeah, I've been losing some grip strength as well, and knowing you could pull something raw in the past that you're struggling with now sucks. I'm not going to start using chalk for something I could pull raw in the past lol.
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    CW, do you still have that bar that bounces and rebounds? I remember in the 2020 thread you used it and it was incredibly shaky. Might be good for stability work if you're doing feet-up lately.



    Yeah, I've been losing some grip strength as well, and knowing you could pull something raw in the past that you're struggling with now sucks. I'm not going to start using chalk for something I could pull raw in the past lol.
    Chalk is still raw lol. Not lifting (or climbing) without chalk is just straight up silly.



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    Hit a couple of "relative" PRs (as in not actually PRs, just weights I haven't hit in a long ass time)

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    I initially didn't even get 445 off the floor, I rolled the bar forward then back and tried it again and got it

    I think I was trying to straight leg deadlift it off the floor. When I rolled it and retried it, I bent my legs a little more
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    Originally Posted by SaviorSelfJT View Post
    Hit a couple of "relative" PRs (as in not actually PRs, just weights I haven't hit in a long ass time)

    Bench: 320x1

    Deadlift: 445x1

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    When I was warming up deads, 365 felt completely effortless, like there wasn't any resistance at all

    I initially didn't even get 445 off the floor, I rolled the bar forward then back and tried it again and got it

    I think I was trying to straight leg deadlift it off the floor. When I rolled it and retried it, I bent my legs a little more
    I have a love hate relationship with deadlifts in all their forms.

    I either pull something heavy and easy or light and hard as fuk.

    Never anything in between for me.
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    I have a love hate relationship with deadlifts in all their forms.

    I either pull something heavy and easy or light and hard as fuk.

    Never anything in between for me.
    They're a hard lift for me because you really have to be focused and aggressive when you start

    It's not like the squat where the stretch reflex can make you push 100% automatically without even thinking
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    Good job Savior, and definitely agreed that it's a coin toss on a day to day basis whether they feel like something you can barely manage or relatively easy, even at the same weight. I think it might have to do with how comprehensive they are and what they demand from your whole body, with the amount of available "oomph" varying considerably from time to time; and since it is literally a very heavy weight being moved motionless off the floor, unlike most other major lifts which have some degree of "rebound" going for them.
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    Alright, getting back up there!

    I'm running a moderate deficit again and so cut it short while still feeling fresh (and to be conservative with potential post-covid sneak attacks like last week), and keeping it to fewer, higher intensity sets for the time being. But, as of yesterday, taste and smell seem to be fully back, and I felt strong and fresh today.

    Came back from the gym weighing 235.2.

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    Barely kept grip all the way through on that last set, but I managed all of these with no chalk or straps. I really do think if you can easily pull four otherwise, you should be able to hold it with your bare hands.
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    Huh...that's interesting about the inconsistency on Deadlifts. I have the same thing, except with squats instead of deadlifts, lol. And it's because of exactly what you pointed out Savior - the stretch reflex. My deads are very consistent because there's not really a 'stretch reflex' involved to the degree there is when doing some other lifts. On squats, the stretch reflex (or lack thereof) plays a big part in how much I can lift on a given day. I end up being really inconsistent depending upon how my knees are feeling, balance, how well I'm maintaining tightness, etc. If any one of those are off my descent needs to be much more controlled and I end up getting little to no stretch reflex. Today's squat session is a case in point - was feeling great and able to take advantage of the stretch reflex, unlike my previous session.

    Regarding grip issues on Deadlifts. I used to think that if I can't lift it with bare hands then I just can't lift it. Have definitely changed my opinion on that for a few reasons. First, I've no plans or desire to compete, so it's just an arbitrary restriction. Second, even if you're competing you can and should use chalk. Third, I'm limiting progress for other (far more important) parts of my body when I let grip be the determining factor. And having said that, I understand the mindset behind using bare hands, and I have no issue with anyone that feels that way - to each their own.


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    Pretty sweet squats CW. The angle does make it look like you are starting with some extension, so maybe a it mote "ribs down"
    But I'm nitpicking.

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    @CW, good squat. It does look like you might be tilted forward a little bit, but I know how that can be as far as managing to balance it otherwise being awkward and difficult; especially if you're taller.

    Oh, and quick note on that straps comment. I hope that didn't come across belligerent or eagerly disputatious. In fact, I thought about spoiler-wrapping it as a soapbox personal opinion. Certainly, to each their own; but Wolf said earlier that deadlifting without straps is silly, and I meant it as a response to that position.

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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    Pretty sweet squats CW. The angle does make it look like you are starting with some extension, so maybe a it mote "ribs down"
    But I'm nitpicking.

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    @CW, good squat. It does look like you might be tilted forward a little bit, but I know how that can be as far as managing to balance it otherwise being awkward and difficult; especially if you're taller.

    Oh, and quick note on that straps comment. I hope that didn't come across belligerent or eagerly disputatious. In fact, I thought about spoiler-wrapping it as a soapbox personal opinion. Certainly, to each their own; but Wolf said earlier that deadlifting without straps is silly, and I meant it as a response to that position.

    @Wolf, has anyone pulled 1,000 in that weight class? Seems absolutely insane.
    Funny that you're commenting on noticing opposite things with my squat, but both are on point. I'm extended a bit too much at the start of the lift, which then results in getting pitched forward a bit later on. It seems to be largely a result of my bracing pattern, but there's no need to bore you with the details. It's something I'm aware of and working on.

    And yeah, those 2 dudes are insane. Love watching both of them lift.

    No worries on the grip comments Eli. I like hearing everyone's thoughts/opinions on the matter, and just thought I'd interject my own without anyone asking, lol.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    @CW, good squat. It does look like you might be tilted forward a little bit, but I know how that can be as far as managing to balance it otherwise being awkward and difficult; especially if you're taller.

    Oh, and quick note on that straps comment. I hope that didn't come across belligerent or eagerly disputatious. In fact, I thought about spoiler-wrapping it as a soapbox personal opinion. Certainly, to each their own; but Wolf said earlier that deadlifting without straps is silly, and I meant it as a response to that position.

    @Wolf, has anyone pulled 1,000 in that weight class? Seems absolutely insane.
    Doubt it, pretty sure it would be a sizeable record.

    And woah there. I didn't mention straps, take it or leave those.
    I said lifting without chalk is silly
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    Doubt it, pretty sure it would be a sizeable record.

    And woah there. I didn't mention straps, take it or leave those.
    I said lifting without chalk is silly
    You're right, you absolutely didn't and I must have misread that. My bad; not trying to put words in your mouth.

    I do think there's something desirable about pulling without requiring any accessories. Granted, knurling, how dry your hands are, etc., are variables which functionally affect the same things as chalk, but that's clearly a step down from powdering your hands with something that effectively glues them to the bar.

    This is just a personal goal of mine and I'm not trying to impose it anyone else. Sorry to strawman you mistakenly.
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    You're right, you absolutely didn't and I must have misread that. My bad; not trying to put words in your mouth.

    I do think there's something desirable about pulling without requiring any accessories. Granted, knurling, how dry your hands are, etc., are variables which functionally affect the same things as chalk, but that's clearly a step down from powdering your hands with something that effectively glues them to the bar.

    This is just a personal goal of mine and I'm not trying to impose it anyone else. Sorry to strawman you mistakenly.
    Chalk doesn’t have any adhesive properties, there no stickiness or gluiness to it, it just reduces the effect of any sweat/oil on your hands
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    You're right, you absolutely didn't and I must have misread that. My bad; not trying to put words in your mouth.

    I do think there's something desirable about pulling without requiring any accessories. Granted, knurling, how dry your hands are, etc., are variables which functionally affect the same things as chalk, but that's clearly a step down from powdering your hands with something that effectively glues them to the bar.

    This is just a personal goal of mine and I'm not trying to impose it anyone else. Sorry to strawman you mistakenly.
    No worries and never thought you were.

    For your own training, I would question what you want to gain from not using it?
    It's not like there is any non chalk lift comp to compare your deadlift too.
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