Did Dr. Peter McCullough hurt his credibility by going on the Alex Jones Show?

[OPGenesis]

Why would he do this?

The last time a remember seeing anything of Alex Jones was when he was running around Seattle like a madman with a USA Today paper.

[ghostfacedup]

nope

[Stizzel]

Alex Jones has far more credibility than any of the trusted sources at this point.

[OPGenesis]

nope

If he wants to try and operate in the system his tour is probably over.

Don't know why he would throw all that hard work down the drain.

Joe Rogan is cool, but Alex Jones is absolutely brutal.

Alex Jones has far more credibility than any of the trusted sources at this point.

I don't know.

His presentation is so sloppy it literally kills the message.

Everything becomes discredited by the way he behaves.

[Stizzel]

I don't know.

His presentation is so sloppy it literally kills the message.

Everything becomes discredited by the way he behaves.

I don't care if he hires a trained chimp to do the news for him - if the reporting is more accurate than the trusted sources then it is more credible in my view.

[OPGenesis]

I don't care if he hires a trained chimp to do the news for him - if the reporting is more accurate than the trusted sources then it is more credible in my view.

That is the thing though. His presentation makes everything come off untrustworthy :/

[JoshSP1985]

He has nothing to gain and everything to lose. He's trying to help us.

[PAU1]

[dabbmw2002]

Seems like some low-key concern trolling. No one is going to change their mind about his message because he went on Alex Jones. Anyone awared by his Rogan podcast appearance isn't going to immediately jettison him because he went on Jones later.

[OPGenesis]

Seems like some low-key concern trolling. No one is going to change their mind about his message because he went on Alex Jones. Anyone awared by his Rogan podcast appearance isn't going to immediately jettison him because he went on Jones later.

Thanks for the accusations and contribution to the thread.

[DuracellBunny]

The moment that he gave the first presentation/interview, that went against the orthodoxy, he knew he was going to get chitlisted.

If you know you are going to get chitlisted anyway, you might as well try and get the largest viewership you can, by doing as much press as possible.

Btw OP, Doja Cat has posed nude for rolling stone.

[A-GAME]

Did he have any credibility to begin with? I don't know. I haven't really looked into him or his claims, but when his name popped up during the pandemic I remember reading about him having some serious issues in the past. I'm also skeptical about the "most published in history" claim. Has anyone verified? Is he publishing in his own or affiliated journals? Is he publishing junk? I'm not sure he's the authority he claims to be or that some believe him to be.

[umop3pisdn]

Who gives a fk what platform he goes on or who he speaks to. What matters is the information he provides and whether or not it is factual.

And the end of the day one thing is clear; early treatment for covid is basically non-existent. People with covid have been told to isolate at home and wait it out until they recover, or get so bad that they require hospitalization. He suggests people weigh up the risk v reward in getting the vaccine, but the fact they are being mandated and presented as the only solution, and early treatment to avoid hospitalization has been not only ignored but demonized, means something very fking wrong is happening here.

[OPGenesis]

Did he have any credibility to begin with? I don't know. I haven't really looked into him or his claims, but when his name popped up during the pandemic I remember reading about him having some serious issues in the past. I'm also skeptical about the "most published in history" claim. Has anyone verified? Is he publishing in his own or affiliated journals? Is he publishing junk? I'm not sure he's the authority he claims to be or that some believe him to be.

This.

I don't really know much about the guy, but he seemed to have checked out when I looked him up on wiki.

It just doesn't make sense to me to invest all that time and work into yourself, only to go onto the Alex Jones show to throw it all away.

[NKWulf]

This.

I don't really know much about the guy, but he seemed to have checked out when I looked him up on wiki.

It just doesn't make sense to me to invest all that time and work into yourself, only to go onto the Alex Jones show to throw it all away.

since when does anything make sense in this clown world.

[katya422]

The moment that he gave the first presentation/interview, that went against the orthodoxy, he knew he was going to get chitlisted.

If you know you are going to get chitlisted anyway, you might as well try and get the largest viewership you can, by doing as much press as possible.

Btw OP, Doja Cat has posed nude for rolling stone.

I can understand the thought process OP. IDK if he is going for highest viewership, but that would make perfect sense.

He did do the DarkHorse podcast first [I would classify them as "old school liberal"] before JRE [mainstream unless you are far left or far right in which case you may label him as "far right" or as a "flip flopper"] and I'm guessing by your post he has just done Alex Jones show.

I think it would have been worse if he did Jones show first because then a chunk of lefties would write him off without actually listening to what he says and his reasoning.

I personally can't deal with AJ when he starts getting crazy and yelling. Grates on my nerves too much for me to try to listen.

[gachase21]

This.

I don't really know much about the guy, but he seemed to have checked out when I looked him up on wiki.

It just doesn't make sense to me to invest all that time and work into yourself, only to go onto the Alex Jones show to throw it all away.

Going on Alex Jones was a bad call in my opinion

Career Overview
Dr. McCullough joined the Henry Ford Heart and Vascular Institute in Detroit following his fellowship at the Beaumont Hospital, where he remained until 2000. He then moved to Kansas City, Missouri, to serve as Section Chief of Cardiology of the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine, Truman Medical Centers.

After his time in Missouri, Dr. McCullough returned to Michigan to serve as a Consultant Cardiologist at the Beaumont Hospital, and also as Chief, Division of Nutrition and Preventive Medicine Division of Cardiology. In 2010, following his stint at Beaumont Hospital, he was appointed as the Chief Academic and Scientific officer of the St. John Providence Health System, also in Detroit. In 2014, Dr. McCullough joined Baylor University Medical Center as Vice Chief of Internal Medicine. He was also appointed Chief of Cardiovascular Research of the Baylor Heart and Vascular Institute, and Program Director of the Cardiovascular Disease Fellowship Program.²

Dr. McCullough is recognized internationally as a leading figure in the study of chronic kidney disease as a cardiovascular risk state, having over 1,000 publications to his name and over 500 citations in the National Library of Medicine.³ He is also a founder of the Cardio Renal Society of America, which is a group that dedicates itself to bringing cardiologists and nephrologists together to work on the increasing global issue of cardiorenal syndromes. He is the Co-Editor of Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine and is also currently serving as the Chair of the National Kidney Foundation's Kidney Early Evaluation Program (KEEP), the largest community screening effort for chronic diseases in America.⁴

Career Timeline
1984: Graduated from Baylor University with a Bachelor in Science
1988: Graduated with a medical degree from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School
1991: Completed his residency at University of Washington School of Medicine
1991: Dr. McCullough begins his period as a medical attending at Mercy Hospital
1993: Studies his Masters degree in Public Health at the University of Michigan School of Public Health
1994: Begins his fellowship in cardiovascular diseases at the William Beaumont Hospital
1997: Joins the Henry Ford Heart and Vascular Institute
2000: Appointed to serve as Section Chief of Cardiology of the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine, Truman Medical Center
2002: Made a Consultant Cardiologist and Division Chief of Nutrition and Preventive Medicine at the William Beaumont Hospital
2010: Serves as the Chief Academic and Scientific officer of the St. John Providence Health System
Current: Joined Baylor University Medical Center as Vice Chief of Internal Medicine and Chief of Cardiovascular Research of the Baylor Heart and Vascular Institute


Recognition
Dr. McCullough received the International Vicenza Award for Critical Care Nephrology for his outstanding work and contribution in the area of cardiorenal syndromes. He has also been a recipient of the Simon Dack Award from the American College of Cardiology, and his works have appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association, and other prestigious journals worldwide. He has been an invited lecturer at the New York Academy of Sciences, the National Institutes of Health, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the European Medicines Agency, and the U.S. Congressional Oversight Panel.⁵

References
https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-mccullough-0842a070/
https://www.cardiometabolichealth.or...ccullough.html
https://www.cardiometabolichealth.or...ccullough.html
https://www.cardiorenalsociety.org/what-we-do.html
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/pe...ullough-304612

https://www.uscjournal.com/authors/peter-mccullough

[OPGenesis]

Going on Alex Jones was a bad call in my opinion





https://www.uscjournal.com/authors/peter-mccullough

That's the picture I got when I reviewed his wiki page.

Dabby said I am concern trolling, but I honestly was kind of surprised somebody like him would go onto that nutcases show.

So many other avenues to take getting your message out then going to some fringe circus like AJ's.

[gachase21]

That's the picture I got when I reviewed his wiki page.

Dabby said I am concern trolling, but I honestly was kind of surprised somebody like him would go onto that nutcases show.

So many other avenues to take getting your message out then going to some fringe circus like AJ's.

This is the video I liked

[katya422]

Going on Alex Jones was a bad call in my opinion





https://www.uscjournal.com/authors/peter-mccullough

Nice find. He mentioned in an interview that he has served on ethics and safety boards monitoring the approval process for multiple drugs and that is why he is familiar with the usual process. Claimed that he has been responsible for stopping unsafe drugs.

It would be nice to have more detail on that, but I really don't know where to look.

[DuracellBunny]

Even before Alex Jones, which big media channels/shows would have had him on? He was never going to get invited on to MSM to talk about what he wants to talk about.

[OPGenesis]

Even before Alex Jones, which big media channels/shows would have had him on? He was never going to get invited on to MSM to talk about what he wants to talk about.

Good question.

All I know is going onto Alex Jones just subverts your message.

The only reason I could see somebody going onto his show is to pretty much destroy themselves and whatever message they're trying to get across.

Rogan is cool, because he's just a mellowed out dude, and can put together a coherent thought.

Jones just does weird chit, like banging on tables and making weird noises.

[DuracellBunny]

Good question.

All I know is going onto Alex Jones just subverts your message.

The only reason I could see somebody going onto his show is to pretty much destroy themselves and whatever message they're trying to get across.

Rogan is cool, because he's just a mellowed out dude, and can put together a coherent thought.

Jones just does weird chit, like banging on tables and making weird noises.

AJ is a clown, but I can see the math making sense. If you go on a show where 100% of people take what you are saying seriously, and then you go on a show like AJ where only 25% of people take you seriously, but it has 10x the audience and it gets mentioned on social media, bringing in 40x as many total views, thats 10x as many people that hear it and take it seriously.

The guy is old and might have decided YOLO, or he could have terminal cancer and decided double YOLO, who knows.

[gachase21]

Here is the alleged “fact check” of Dr. Peter McCullough


https://factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiol...19-vaccination

[dabbmw2002]

That's the picture I got when I reviewed his wiki page.

Dabby said I am concern trolling, but I honestly was kind of surprised somebody like him would go onto that nutcases show.

So many other avenues to take getting your message out then going to some fringe circus like AJ's.

I just offered my opinion, You claim that your current attitude is authentic, if so, so be it. I just think one Ann Coulter is more than enough.

I do look forward to McCullough getting half an hour on 60 minutes. I hope this Alex Jones appearance doesn't hurt his chances

[Mlinebacker0]

Here is the alleged “fact check” of Dr. Peter McCullough


https://factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiol...19-vaccination

Lmao. Those ***gots try to refute his reinfection assertion and link to a picture of a study for some reason. When you read the actual study it doesn’t refute his point whatsoever. They really think people are too stupid/lazy to read their “sources”

Worldwide, 31 confirmed cases of covid-19 reinfection have been recorded, although that could be an underestimate from delays in reporting and resource pressures in the ongoing pandemic.

“We know that reinfections with SARS-CoV-2 can happen,” says Ashleigh Tuite, assistant professor at the University of Toronto’s Dalla Lana School of Public Health. “The bigger question is: if reinfections are going to happen, how frequently are they happening?”

With attention focused on vaccine rollout and tracking the spread of new variants of covid-19, little work is being done to find out. “If they’re happening a lot, but they’re happening in the context of being less severe, we’re not going to see them unless we design a study that actively tries to figure that out,” says Tuite.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n99

[dabbmw2002]

Lmao. Those ***gots try to refute his reinfection assertion and link to a picture of a study for some reason. When you read the actual study it doesn’t refute his point whatsoever. They really think people are too stupid/lazy to read their “sources”



https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n99

I addressed that in another thread, he did back peddle a little bit and say that reinfection is rare but does happen. It doesn't change the point that for 99.9% of people once you get infected there is no reason to vaccinate on top of it and confers pretty solid immunity. I've been tested for antibodies at 18 months and they came back a strong positive and of course antibodies aren't the full story, we know that they wane which is normal, and that our immune system has the ability to reproduce them when challenged again with the virus.

But to your point, fact checking that 31 people have been reinfected out of tens of millions is pretty lame and doesn't disprove his point

[Pterodactyl314]

I’m guess to get exposure since there’s limited platforms with that kind of audience (1.3 mill views on banned.video) That was about month or 2 ago now. Alex has some decent guests on and is also pretty close to Joe Rogan.

The Dr was pretty consistent. He wasn’t entertaining the global depop great reset agenda Alex would bring up. He only stuck with the data he knew. Same with JR trying to ask why this is all being done. McCullough doesn’t speculate.

[DuracellBunny]

But to your point, fact checking that 31 people have been reinfected out of tens of millions is pretty lame and doesn't disprove his point

I understand their point, it's about absolutes, but they have to apply it equally. More than 31 people have died from the vaccine, but for them it doesn't disprove the statement "the vaccines are perfectly safe and effective".

[Pterodactyl314]

After listening to Jones daily for 2 months now he isn’t as crazy as he’s made out to be. He’s just a Texan 100% all in against the globalist agenda for the past 28 years. He’s also extremely desperate for funding so it’s kind of annoying being blasted with ads 25% of the time but he’s being sued to death so I understand. Tucker also recently gave Alex some credit on his show. According to Alex Tucker used to think he was nuts until he started to wake up the past few years and came around. His reputation is unfortunate because even I cringed to show people the McCullough video hosted by him. The gay frogs, Sandy hook questioning, and being the first to get banned really did him in.

Big time religious, spiritual, multi dimensional type of guy.