I was invited once to an awards ceremony for the job of my friend's mother, whose boss immediately struck me as one of those kind, but overly eccentric sort of people. There were probably two hundred people in the event center which was rented out for the occasion, and a large meal was catered for those present. The food actually tasted pretty good, but was unusual somehow in an indefinite sort of way, so when the award presentation was over and the boss announced that the catered food was entirely vegan and imitation meat, no one was thoroughly shocked, until he literally bursted out into tears on stage, compelling everyone to abandon meat in their diet because of a Netflix documentary he recently saw that apparently changed his life, and convinced him that meat consumption was responsible for at least half of the diseases and premature deaths in humanity. There was a palpable mixture of astonishment and concealed laughter throughout the room, and I myself couldn't believe someone would not only buy that hook, line and sinker as a grown adult, but also then feel the need to become some kind of apostle for it trying to persuade a crowd of people most of whom he did not know at all. Where's the common sense where you realize that documentaries are commercial commodities with financial interests, and that they make money to the extent that they persuade?
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01-13-2022, 06:15 AM #31Bench: 340
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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01-13-2022, 06:35 AM #32
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01-13-2022, 04:28 PM #34
So, after more homework, I decided to go with kind of a hybrid meal plan. Again, most of my reasoning for wanting a change was to add more variety of nutrients into my body. I, literally, wasn't eating a single veggie before; all oat, chicken, whey, beef diet (avacado, if that's a veggie...not sure it's classified as one). And I tend to go overboard, to the extreme with things when I make a change like this. I had to step back, look at what I was consuming now, re-look at the reasoning for wanting to change, and reevaluate my plan to make that change happen.
Anyway, I just started my cut for my first show of '22 which will be in April. I needed to lay it all out, add it up, and this is what I went with.
I think it's a good variety of things that will add more of a health aspect into my life; I feel good about it.
The numbers came out good; a little low on the cals but this gives me room for creamer in my coffee. And I like the protein numbers too; and the varied sources it comes from.
The middle section is all blended of course
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01-13-2022, 04:32 PM #362017 OCB Men's Physique Open 4th place
17 MP Novice 4th
18 MP Novice 5th
18 MP 40+ 3rd
18 MP Open 5'10" & under 1st
18 MP 40+ 1st & Overall..Pro Card Won
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01-14-2022, 02:13 PM #43
Maybe Sigmund Freud would disagree, but I don't see the entire world through a sexual lens.
RSVP no shows would count, but you obviously know that it's not always wastefully redundant to state something implicit.
e.g.
Guy telling a story: "So I turned the key to start the car."
A2F interjection: "Yeah, well what else would you use it for?"Bench: 340
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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01-14-2022, 04:20 PM #47
I buy plant protein powder in the bulk section of Winco. $8 per pound. No added stuff. Easy to get enough protein.
Supplement with B12, and also a little B3, B6, and zinc.
Do you enjoy guacamole? It is vegan. Lots of yummy dishes are.
Eat the 5 food groups:
Fruits
Vegetables
Grains
Nuts/extra virgin olive oil
Beans/plant protein powder
You'll be fine.
There are even imitation meats that are starting to get good.
My brother has been vegan for 25 years, and vegetarian before that.
I've been mostly vegetarian most my life, vegan a year or 2 here and there, and now fully vegan.
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01-14-2022, 04:28 PM #48
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01-14-2022, 04:33 PM #49
The only undisputed benefits are reversal of arteriosclerosis, and reduced rates of cancer.
You can get just as much energy on either diet, but don't forget that vegans don't get constipated ever. I can take a dump in a smelly bathroom while holding my breath. Meat eaters need a magazine and keep others waiting and maybe get diverticulitis.
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01-14-2022, 04:39 PM #50
The reason so many vegans are messed up is they eat nothing but fruit, or just beer and french fries. They don't learn about nutrition.
Also, many people trying veganism are doing so because they heard it would cure their ailment. They were roped in by vegans desperately trying to convert them even with lies. But the ailment was a preexisting condition, not caused by the diet.
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01-14-2022, 04:39 PM #51
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01-14-2022, 04:42 PM #52
Beans and grain have iron, but you need vitamin C with the meal to absorb it. I supplement just to be safe. Iron is not the only thing it is lower in than the meat diet.
Meat requires washing dishes that would just rinse off with a non oily plant based diet.
Your taste buds can addapt with a month.Last edited by Darkius; 01-14-2022 at 04:47 PM.
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