Has anyone with decent development and training experience actually done this, or is it primarily intended for the "hard gainer" or someone just starting out?
I'm not about to start drinking a gallon of milk a day, but that does sound like an easy and convenient way to get more than enough protein. It couldn't hurt someone with decent progress under their belt, too, and everyone could improve their squat.
So, has anyone already done this, whether as a beginner or already past novice with their lifts?
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Thread: Squats and Milk
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11-15-2021, 07:43 AM #1
Squats and Milk
Bench: 345
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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11-15-2021, 08:16 AM #2
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11-15-2021, 08:37 AM #3
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11-15-2021, 08:43 AM #4
Had to read that twice, but got a hefty laugh out of it
I might seriously do this for a month or so. I am finally almost done cutting and looking forward to the extra calories I'll be afforded. An entire gallon of even whole milk is less than I lose on, so it wouldn't have to be everything, either. And ironically enough, my squat actually is relatively weak and would benefit from temporary specialization.Bench: 345
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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11-15-2021, 08:45 AM #5
I had some better than expected results with a dozen oysters a day for 30 days in a row. Be careful with the milk though, you don't want to be walking around with a milk mustache.
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11-15-2021, 08:48 AM #6
Its kind of funny what happens when you focus on squats and increase it quite a bit. Everything goes up and gets easier. Once you get really heavy weight on your shoulders and have to hold your core and all the accessory muscles kick into keep you upright and balanced, you’ll notice you get stronger on other things that don’t even seem related.
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11-15-2021, 01:52 PM #11
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I couldn't imagine doing this... if for no other reason than having to DRINK that many calories of a creamy/milky beverage... I would get so bored of it and probably gag...
Not to mention thats a ton of saturate fat if you're doing whole milk.
I'd rather just eat cereal and peanut butter and sandwiches and everything else I enjoy... rather than just drinking fluids."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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11-15-2021, 02:17 PM #12
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11-15-2021, 05:43 PM #13
At your age you've got more options than us turtle turds.
1/2 gomad max if you try it. Still too much fat gain, and way too expensive. How much is a gallon of milk these days?
More variety of nutrition would also be a good idea. PB sandwiches, nuts, cheese, yogurt, bowl of cereal before you sleep, etc.
I'd never bank on one thing to boost one lift, especially if there were some health drawbacks. But you're a lot younger than me.
I get it, squats are tough. Mine seems to have suffered the most after my layoff, and it's tough getting it back because squats are just really tough. But there are many training approaches that can work.Once upon a time (maxes 2020) ...
Squat 185, Bench 137, DL 205, @ bw 88.5 age 43
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11-15-2021, 05:57 PM #14
Their grueling difficulty is the biggest thing that makes them appealing to me - how much can you handle, what can you prove that you can take? I don't even care so much for the leg aesthetic as much as with a prominent upper body, anyway. Funny how it seems you can bench endlessly with nothing more than local fatigue, but a heavy squat or deadlift session seems uniquely to take something out of you.
Yeah, I'd rather enjoy the available variety than devote 2/3 of my calories to a gallon of milk (and as Adam mentioned, I'd be concerned with drinking that much saturated fat regularly), but I might try it for a few days sometime just to see what it is like. Mostly I am curious if anyone has actually done this, since it's kind of an exclusive half-humorous maxim.Bench: 345
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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11-15-2021, 05:58 PM #15
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11-15-2021, 06:08 PM #16
I used to post on usenet.misc.fitness.weights 25 years ago. There were no forums like this. Dialup speed was 33.6 k at the best. I used this file sharing software to download songs. It would take 8 hours (while sleeping) to download a dozen songs. Napster. Doing squats was the standard answer on how to increase other lifts. Will Brink, Pusbag, Rob Schuh were regular posters back then. I was too, but not in their league. Well, maybe Pusbag. I've sort of turned into a poster like Pusbag.
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11-15-2021, 10:04 PM #17
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11-16-2021, 12:26 AM #18
I have done it twice before.
The first time was my first serious training program. Started at 110 pounds for squats in my buddy's basement and drinking the milk as prescribed. Eventually got my first gym membership after we quickly outgrew his basement setup. After 8 weeks I went from 145 pounds to 173 pounds and was squatting 225x20. I still had the same waist size, but my lower body grew fast - I was shredding my boxer shorts as they split in half, and I blew the ass out of a pair of sweatpants because that was the only thing I could fit into at the time. Some visible upper body gain as well, but overall I was just interested in the weight so I didn't document any measurements.
The second time was after I earned a shot to go to NAS Nationals and a pro lightweight strongman was under 231 pounds. Over another eight weeks I got up to 225 pounds and was squatting 315x20 but I felt like a tick about to pop and had no conditioning, I was carrying way too much for my frame. That and a few other factors made me realize being a pro strongman wasn't going to happen for me.
If you need to gain quickly, want to squat so hard you puke, and enjoy milk it's worth trying once.
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11-16-2021, 10:16 AM #19
I am indeed going to run that again. Cut ends Thanksgiving Day, which gives me 5 weeks plus a few days to retest maxes until New Year's.
That second week - and really just actually following an expertly written program with care and precision overall - was a growing experience as a lifter for me.
Rebought protein powder, and also decided to buy protein bars (for an additional serving for optimal timing purposes) and pre-workout just for fun. Maybe a gallon of milk is the only missing supplement for week two.
What's the actual squat routine? I thought it was generically to drink an entire gallon of milk every day and squat primarily, but I guess there's an actual regimen involved for the squatting itself?
And that's crazy strong... Do you still enjoy training "strongman" style, even if you're not competing anymore?Bench: 345
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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11-16-2021, 07:39 PM #20
There is a few different versions, but the version I ran was pretty simple.
Warm up with a few sets of light squats, then pick a weight you can squat for 12-15 reps. Then do 20 reps with it, taking at least three deep breaths in between each rep. Once you finish, immediately do a set of 20 reps of breathing pullovers. Rest a few minutes, then knock out 3 sets of pull-ups, dips, and sit-ups. That's it. Every workout add 5 pounds to your squatting weight. Do that three times a week for 8 weeks straight.
Oh yeah, 100%. I mostly use sandbags now just due to the accessibility, but I still incorporate farmer's walks, odd object carries, and the like.
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