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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    We can start with the Ivermectin thread in which you got fukin destroyed..lol

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...0340343&page=1
    Lololol no need to bump your CT threads when you'll do it for us. LOL


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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Nah. Vaccination leads to development of antibodies specific to the spike protein.
    False. the spike protein creates the same issues within the body. If the body doesnt make the same protein as that on the surface of the virus, the vaccine wont work. Because the immune response will not be to the same thing. So, if its the spike protein thats dangerous, and the spike proteins your body makes are the same (and if they are not, the 'vaccine' is useless anyway) then the spike proteins you make will be dangerous.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Lololol no need to bump your CT threads when you'll do it for us. LOL


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    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1642007203

    You're a CT joke.
    Lol, over 30 trials showing the effectiveness for Ivermectin for Covid, & according to Pat, Ms.CNN..it’s CT..Never change Pat. It’s always a pleasure to speak with the poster child for the pro-choice movement.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Lol, over 30 trials showing the effectiveness for Ivermectin for Covid, & according to Pat, Ms.CNN..it’s CT..Never change Pat. It’s always a pleasure to speak with the poster child for the pro-choice movement.
    Dude multiple posters in that thread pointed out the problems with those "trials"... which is why Ivermectin is still not a treatment for covid.

    But just lol at posting this thinking it helped your cause.. LOL
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Dude multiple posters in that thread pointed out the problems with those "trials"... which is why Ivermectin is still not a treatment for covid.

    But just lol at posting this thinking it helped your cause.. LOL
    “multiple” LOL..It was you & Wincel, & the only study you pointed out any problem with you got fukin owned..Post #91

    What a dipchit, you just don’t know when to quit Pat..please, keep it goin lol
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    “multiple” LOL..It was you & Wincel, & the only study you pointed out any problem with you got fukin owned..Post #91

    What a dipchit, you just don’t know when to quit Pat..please, keep it goin lol
    Fuking lol you posted a link to The Blaze... and read the fuking rest of the posts including this one:

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1642042173

    and all the rest after.

    Now imagine posting this thinking you didn't get proven a CT tard AGAIN. This is only one thread of many.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    False. the spike protein creates the same issues within the body. If the body doesnt make the same protein as that on the surface of the virus, the vaccine wont work. Because the immune response will not be to the same thing. So, if its the spike protein thats dangerous, and the spike proteins your body makes are the same (and if they are not, the 'vaccine' is useless anyway) then the spike proteins you make will be dangerous.
    Not false. We have antibody tests.

    The spike protein isn't the problem and the spike protein produced in response to mRNA vaccines is cleared.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Fuking lol you posted a link to The Blaze... and read the fuking rest of the posts including this one:

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1642042173

    and all the rest after.

    Now imagine posting this thinking you didn't get proven a CT tard AGAIN. This is only one thread of many.
    Aww lmao..choosing to ignore context once again..what a fukin dipchit lol

    “Highly flawed ivermectin study by Colombian researchers in JAMA - pharmacist gave ivermectin to placebo (making this an ivm vs ivm study) - both arms thus did better than would be expected - study being spun as a "negative" - Dr Eric Osgood analyzes”

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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Not false. We have antibody tests.

    The spike protein isn't the problem.
    False. The mrna mimics the spike protein in covid and will spread throughout the body, particularly in reproductive organs. So when you're exposed to the virus again, your body will attack anything that looks like the spike protein.

    It’s been shown that the “novel” spike is the antigen responsible for the worst symptoms that less healthy people experience, not the virus it’s attached to. They injected the spike alone without it’s Corona companion into humanized mice. The mice experienced all the worst symptoms people do. Salk and university of California SD have also shown this. It creates and exacerbates vascular diseases. There are plenty of others and it’s pretty obvious by now.

    Why the **** would you code cells to make the “novel” part (that is the ****ing toxic payload of an otherwise run-of-the-mill cold) of a novel virus whose family of viruses are a common endemic nuisance? There are many non-novel Cov Sars2 characteristics that would have presented and allowed for immune response to a wide range of Coronas. Coding for the spike alone is a missed opportunity to target a wide array of Coronas (the way your natural immune system does) and they could have used a non or less toxic element of Coronas and taught your immune system to make and attack it. Let’s not forget where this fancy new chimeric spike amplified tool was created. They know this Frankenstein intimately and have since day 1 and long before that.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    False. The mrna mimics the spike protein in covid and will spread throughout the body, particularly in reproductive organs. So when you're exposed to the virus again, your body will attack anything that looks like the spike protein.

    It’s been shown that the “novel” spike is the antigen responsible for the worst symptoms that less healthy people experience, not the virus it’s attached to. They injected the spike alone without it’s Corona companion into humanized mice. The mice experienced all the worst symptoms people do. Salk and university of California SD have also shown this. It creates and exacerbates vascular diseases. There are plenty of others and it’s pretty obvious by now.

    Why the **** would you code cells to make the “novel” part (that is the ****ing toxic payload of an otherwise run-of-the-mill cold) of a novel virus whose family of viruses are a common endemic nuisance? There are many non-novel Cov Sars2 characteristics that would have presented and allowed for immune response to a wide range of Coronas. Coding for the spike alone is a missed opportunity to target a wide array of Coronas (the way your natural immune system does) and they could have used a non or less toxic element of Coronas and taught your immune system to make and attack it. Let’s not forget where this fancy new chimeric spike amplified tool was created. They know this Frankenstein intimately and have since day 1 and long before that.

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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.

    Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose:

    Via NPR) […] “Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.

    “During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine,” he says, “and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that.”

    He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study. “It’s a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it’s the right thing to do,” he says.


    People signing up for these studies were not promised special treatment, but once the FDA authorized the vaccines, their developers decided to offer the shots.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...getting-immuni
    is it true that those that had severe adverse reactions and deaths during the trial were not included in the end data because they hadn't "completed the trial" ?
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    Spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 activates macro****es and contributes to induction of acute lung inflammation in male mice

    https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.co...fj.202002742RR


    Selectively expressing SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein S1 subunit in cardiomyocytes induces cardiac hypertrophy in mice

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...06.20.448993v1


    And now you know the reason for the many cases of myocarditis we've seen from the vaccine.

    “Now there's pre-clinical studies suggesting the lipid nanoparticles actually go right into the heart. The heart expresses the spike protein and the body attacks the heart.”

    https://t.me/PeterMcCullough

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DougIlano...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

    The problem is we don't know if it gets worse over time. This is essentially an auto immune problem. So while the damage in most people might be too minor to be detectable immediately, over time that damage could accumulate to become a problem or the autoimmune response could become more severe with time or repeat covid infections (the virus is likely to become endemic like influenza).

    The vaccines have only been in use for a short while, at most and it is really too early to make a judgement if this problem will stay as a minor problem or it will snowball over the coming years...& frankly the rise of adverse effects & myocarditis is evident of a very large problem
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 activates macro****es and contributes to induction of acute lung inflammation in male mice

    https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.co...fj.202002742RR


    Selectively expressing SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein S1 subunit in cardiomyocytes induces cardiac hypertrophy in mice

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...06.20.448993v1


    And now you know the reason for the many cases of myocarditis we've seen from the vaccine.

    “Now there's pre-clinical studies suggesting the lipid nanoparticles actually go right into the heart. The heart expresses the spike protein and the body attacks the heart.”

    https://t.me/PeterMcCullough

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DougIlano...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
    Anything showing a persistent spike protein accumulation in reproductive organs in humans?
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    Anything showing a persistent spike protein accumulation in reproductive organs in humans?
    NIH orders $1.67M study on how COVID-19 vaccine impacts menstrual cycle

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/nih-to...rce=reddit.com


    The spike protein binds to human ACE2 receptors and also causes cellular damage. This has an effect on what’s known as the renin-angiotensin system. This system plays a role in many important biological functions.

    Proof the spike proteins the vaccine creates actually detach and free-float in your body after they are produced and thus cause some of the same issues as the actual virus itself
    SARS-CoV-2 vaccines: Lights and shadows

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8084611/

    The resulting pathological features may resemble those of active coronavirus disease. The free-floating Spike proteins synthetized by cells targeted by vaccine and destroyed by the immune response circulate in the blood and systematically interact with angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptors expressed by a variety of cells including platelets, thereby promoting ACE2 internalization and degradation.)

    The above also states that when a vaccinated cell dies or is destroyed by the immune system, the debris may release a large amount of Spike proteins and protein fragments (free-floating Spike proteins). Which can then bind to ACE2 expressing cells.


    Renin-angiotensin system and female reproductive health
    Research sheds light on the role of ACE2 in ovulation

    https://www.bionews.org.uk/page_158735

    This research suggests the potential involvement of ACE2 as a critical enzyme for the LH surge-induced cyclic events of ovulation.)


    Renin-angiotensin system and male reproductive health
    Diminazene protects corpus cavernosum against hypercholesterolemia-induced injury

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25411084/

    ACE2 is expressed in erectile tissue and its reduction is associated with hypercholesterolemia-induced ED)
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    NIH orders $1.67M study on how COVID-19 vaccine impacts menstrual cycle

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/nih-to...rce=reddit.com


    The spike protein binds to human ACE2 receptors and also causes cellular damage. This has an effect on what’s known as the renin-angiotensin system. This system plays a role in many important biological functions.

    Proof the spike proteins the vaccine creates actually detach and free-float in your body after they are produced and thus cause some of the same issues as the actual virus itself
    SARS-CoV-2 vaccines: Lights and shadows

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8084611/

    The resulting pathological features may resemble those of active coronavirus disease. The free-floating Spike proteins synthetized by cells targeted by vaccine and destroyed by the immune response circulate in the blood and systematically interact with angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptors expressed by a variety of cells including platelets, thereby promoting ACE2 internalization and degradation.)

    The above also states that when a vaccinated cell dies or is destroyed by the immune system, the debris may release a large amount of Spike proteins and protein fragments (free-floating Spike proteins). Which can then bind to ACE2 expressing cells.


    Renin-angiotensin system and female reproductive health
    Research sheds light on the role of ACE2 in ovulation

    https://www.bionews.org.uk/page_158735

    This research suggests the potential involvement of ACE2 as a critical enzyme for the LH surge-induced cyclic events of ovulation.)


    Renin-angiotensin system and male reproductive health
    Diminazene protects corpus cavernosum against hypercholesterolemia-induced injury

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25411084/

    ACE2 is expressed in erectile tissue and its reduction is associated with hypercholesterolemia-induced ED)
    There are a lot of leaps required to get from theoretical possibilities to actual manifested problems. These leaps are similar to the ADE theories where someone identifies a theoretical path to get people excited, but nobody seems to care that there is no evidence.

    We more than a year into millions of doses being administered. Are people just staying quiet about amenorrhea and impotence?
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    There are a lot of leaps required to get from theoretical possibilities to actual manifested problems. These leaps are similar to the ADE theories where someone identifies a theoretical path to get people excited, but nobody seems to care that there is no evidence.

    We more than a year into millions of doses being administered. Are people just staying quiet about amenorrhea and impotence?
    Leaps..?
    From above..

    Renin-angiotensin system and female reproductive health
    Research sheds light on the role of ACE2 in ovulation

    https://www.bionews.org.uk/page_158735


    82% Miscarriage Rate in mRNA "Vaccinated" Women

    A medical journal discovered that 82% of women who took an mRNA vaccine in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy had a miscarriage —g

    In mid-June the New England Journal of Medicine published a study called “Preliminary FIndings of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Pregnant Persons” by Tom T. Shimabukuro and others from the Center of Disease Control’s “v-safe COVID-10 Pregnancy Registry Team.” The team wrote that there were “no obvious safety signals among pregnant [women] who received Covid-19 vaccines” even though it published a table which showed that 82% of women in the study who were injected with either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccine during early pregnancy lost their babies.

    https://www.pro-memoria.info/wp/wp-c...feSiteNews.pdf


    Wouldn’t really call that a “leap”

    Here are just a few VAERS REPORTS..how many would you like..? (Roughly 14-15 incidents per page)

    Is this what you would consider as... “no evidence”..?


    https://m.imgur.com/a/oLNoxkO

    https://m.imgur.com/a/Gn5yAMX

    https://m.imgur.com/a/MHTgso3#U4jFnjt

    https://m.imgur.com/a/ECjy3AU#hRKPeDC

    https://m.imgur.com/a/jLxscxX#SC6NcRA

    https://m.imgur.com/a/zmvEs4d#iNA7cle

    https://m.imgur.com/a/M8pZdEs

    https://m.imgur.com/a/jzsB16d

    https://m.imgur.com/a/0iVAOYA#QsrOE8j

    https://m.imgur.com/a/0iVAOYA#QsrOE8j

    There are about 400 more pages if you want.

    Keep in mind, VAERS is only about 10% of actual incidents. Meaning some 30,000 pregnant women have had spontaneous abortions






    So..why are you really pushing this vaccine? We know it’s not safe, nor effective..
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    Covid vaccines definitely aren't the first or only vaccines with a multi-dose course.
    and yet, you know that this is not what that is.
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    Negs are expected. Many thanks - repped.
    Did I lose you, sweaty?

    Pt 4

    November 9, 2015, a collaboration paper was published written by Dr. Ralph Baric and Dr. Shi Zhengli of the Wuhan Institue of Virology titled: A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence. Key excerpts from the paper include: "Here we examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations. Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV...On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo.
    .... Therefore, we synthesized the SHC014 spike in the context of the replication-competent, mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone (we hereafter refer to the chimeric CoV as SHC014-MA15) to maximize the opportunity for pathogenesis and vaccine studies in mice.
    ...To test the ability of the SHC014 spike to mediate infection of the human airway, we examined the sensitivity of the human epithelial airway cell line Calu-3 2B4 to infection and found robust SHC014-MA15 replication, comparable to that of SARS-CoV Urbani. To extend these findings, primary human airway epithelial (HAE) cultures were infected and showed robust replication of both viruses. Together, the data confirm the ability of viruses with the SHC014 spike to infect human airway cells and underscore the potential threat of cross-species transmission of SHC014-CoV.
    A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses showspotential for human emergence: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

    November 12, 2015 an article in Nature is published titled Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research which stated this in response to Baric and Zhengli's publication:

    Creation of a chimaera
    The argument is essentially a rerun of the debate over whether to allow lab research that increases the virulence, ease of spread or host range of dangerous pathogens — what is known as ‘gain-of-function’ research. In October 2014, the US government imposed a moratorium on federal funding of such research on the viruses that cause SARS, influenza and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome, a deadly disease caused by a virus that sporadically jumps from camels to people).
    The latest study was already under way before the US moratorium began, and the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) allowed it to proceed while it was under review by the agency, says Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, a co-author of the study. The NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the moratorium, he says.
    But Wain-Hobson disapproves of the study because, he says, it provides little benefit, and reveals little about the risk that the wild SHC014 virus in bats poses to humans.
    Other experiments in the study show that the virus in wild bats would need to evolve to pose any threat to humans — a change that may never happen, although it cannot be ruled out. Baric and his team reconstructed the wild virus from its genome sequence and found that it grew poorly in human cell cultures and caused no significant disease in mice.
    “The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” agrees Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Both Ebright and Wain-Hobson are long-standing critics of gain-of-function research.
    In their paper, the study authors also concede that funders may think twice about allowing such experiments in the future. "Scientific review panels may deem similar studies building chimeric viruses based on circulating strains too risky to pursue," they write, adding that discussion is needed as to "whether these types of chimeric virus studies warrant further investigation versus the inherent risks involved”.
    Useful research
    But Baric and others say the research did have benefits. The study findings “move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger”, says Peter Daszak, who co-authored the 2013 paper. Daszak is president of the EcoHealth Alliance, an international network of scientists, headquartered in New York City, that samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe.
    Studies testing hybrid viruses in human cell culture and animal models are limited in what they can say about the threat posed by a wild virus, Daszak agrees. But he argues that they can help indicate which pathogens should be prioritized for further research attention.
    Without the experiments, says Baric, the SHC014 virus would still be seen as not a threat. Previously, scientists had believed, on the basis of molecular modelling and other studies, that it should not be able to infect human cells. The latest work shows that the virus has already overcome critical barriers, such as being able to latch onto human receptors and efficiently infect human airway cells, he says. “I don't think you can ignore that.” He plans to do further studies with the virus in non-human primates, which may yield data more relevant to humans.
    Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.18787
    Pt 5

    February 2016, the book Rapid Medical Countermeasure Response to Infectious Diseases is published with these statements from Dr. Peter Daszak about how to exploit the media to profit from an infectious disease outbreak:
    "Investors are interested at the height of a crisis, Daszak said. He pointed out that the share value for Roche Holding, a Swiss global health care company, increased during the H1N1 influenza pandemic. Unfortunately, as discussed, the interest and hype are short lived and focused around the outbreak. Daszak shared a story of a publication in Nature describing SARS in China and work done with colleagues from China's government-funded laboratory. The publication garnered no interest from the Chinese government, he said, and no one they talked with from the live animal markets seemed concerned about the findings. What was surprising for Daszak was how little interest was shown in the article from outside governments and the general public. Based on his experience and understanding, significant attention and interest should have come out of that article, but instead only a few virologists were interested in the paper for academic purposes—again showing the strong influence the media can have on public perception of threats.
    Daszak also shared that during the recent Ebola outbreak, EcoHealth Alliance issued a press release and an analysis predicting which countries would be the first to be infected as a result of global air travel. The United States was predicted to be one of the top three countries that would receive infected individuals from countries with EVD, and it was predicted the patient would arrive into Dulles, Boston Logan, Newark, and/or JFK airport. They anticipated a lot of attention and coverage, but instead, again, there was very minimal pickup by the media. Daszak reiterated that, until an infectious disease crisis is very real, present, and at an emergency threshold, it is often largely ignored. To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis, he said, we need to increase public understanding of the need for MCMs such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of process", Daszak stated.
    RapidMedical Countermeasure Response to Infectious Diseases: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK349040/


    January 2017, Dr. Anthony Fauci addresses the Trump Administration during President Trump's first month in office, "I thought I would bring that perspective to the topic today is the issue of pandemic preparedness. If there is one message that I want to leave with you today based on my experience, and you'll see that in a moment, is that there is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases, both chronic infectious diseases in the sense of already ongoing disease – and we certainly have a large burden of that – but also there will be a surprise outbreak. I hope by the end of my relatively short presentation, you'll understand why history, the history of the last 32 years that I've been the Director of the NIAID, will tell the next administration that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that they will be faced with the challenges their predecessors were faced with."
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    (responses to cherry-picked aspects of various posts, all disingenuous and blatantly patronizing tone)
    Pt 6

    July 2017, Dr. Moncef M. Slaoui, former head of vaccines department for GlaxoSmithKline and lobbyist for Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), joins Moderna's Board of Directors.
    Moderna Press Release: https://www.modernatx.com/sites/defa...%207-27-17.pdf

    September 27, 2017, China opens its first biosafety level 4, also known as a BSL-4 or P4 lab, at the Wuhan Institute for Virology. Biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) is the highest level of biosafety precautions, and is appropriate for work with agents that could easily be aerosol-transmitted within the laboratory and cause severe to fatal disease in humans for which there are no available vaccines or treatments.
    Sixth One News (News from China): https://www.sixthtone.com/news/10009...ty-biology-lab

    April 2018, Ralph Baric lectures about profiting off a future pandemic:
    "During the Ebola outbreak, there was about a 8-10% drop in the market, but then quickly recovered. I wanted to give you good news, there are winners out there, right? So if you're looking at whatever you want to be prepared to make money in the next pandemic - if that's what you want to do - buy stock in hazmat suit makers and protected clothing or companies that make antiviral drugs of that particular pandemic. You'll probably do pretty well there. Actually mutual funds for pandemic preparedness. You can bet on anything in this country [laughs]. Some products do well [such as in] 1918, including masks. Same thing today. Pandemics really are times of opportunity. I like George RR Martin's quote in Chaos Is A Ladder, uhm, "there's an opportunity for people to have political gain, financial gain, personal gain during times of social upheaval." And that will probably occur, there will be misleading stories on social media, miracle cures that will be touted, conspiracy theories. One thing that is kind of new: you can probably buy and order your own vaccine on the internet for about 200 bucks now. So you can buy your own vaccine and probably vaccinate yourself. If you have a little bit of knowledge and most likely, somebody will come up with a scheme to sell that and is safe...and not...[or rather] in a legal way..."
    Video of Ralph Baric making these statements: https://rumble.com/vih9x3-2018-wuhan...pandemic..html

    October 18, 2019, The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.
    Event 201: https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
    Pt 7

    October 17-28, 2019, almost 10,000 international athletes from more than 100 countries traveled to Wuhan, China for the 2019 Military World Games – and many of them later got sick with COVID-19-like symptoms. Some became so ill, that in hindsight, they attributed their illness to a possible COVID infection calling it a "very bad cold".
    Washington Post Wuhan 2019: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...es-2019-covid/

    December 16, 2019, NIH-Moderna Confidential Agreements. On page 105, there is a discussion of a Material Transfer Agreement. The providers are NIAID, NIH, and Moderna. The recipient is The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. It states the providers agree to transfer to the Recipient's Investigator the following Research Material: mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates developed and jointly-owned by NIAID and Moderna.
    NIH-Moderna Agreements pg105: https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...t/p105/a568569

    Moderna's representative, Andrea Carfi signed this document on December 16th, 2019 as evidenced on page 85.
    NIH-Moderna Agreements pg85: https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...nt/p85/a569053

    On 31 December 2019, the WHO China Country Office was informed of cases of pneumonia of unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China. This is considered the official date of the first cases of COVID-19.
    WHO China's First Cases: https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...em/2020-DON229
    In a January 9, 2020 email, Dr. David Morens, Senior Scientific Advisor to Dr. Fauci, emailed Dr. Peter Daszak, President of EcoHealth Alliance, asking for “any inside info on this new coronavirus that isn’t yet in the public domain." In a January 27, 2020 reply, Dr. Daszak emailed Dr. Morens, with the subject line: “Wuhan novel coronavirus – NIAID’s role in bat-origin Covs” and stated: "Happy to have a phone call. re the Wuhan CoV, but just wanted to mention a few things for your information and hopefully to pass on to Tony Fauci for when he’s being interviewed re: the new CoV: NIAID has been funding coronavirus research for the past 5 years...Collaborators include Wuhan Institute of Virology (currently working on the nCoV) and Ralph Baric."
    [Author's note: By Dr. Daszak's own admission, this email ties NIAID, Peter Daszak, Tony Fauci, and Ralph Baric together as collaborators with Ecohealth Alliance in partnership with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. WIV is home to China's only public BSL-4 lab located at the epicenter of the COVID-19 outbreak where they had been for years genetically manipulating coronaviruses to determine if they could make them more transmissible to humans.]
    Senator Johnson's Files: https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/se...F-F0058382E9CA

    January 19, 2020, the first case of 2019 novel coronavirus is reported in the United States from a man who had recently returned to Washington State from China.
    New England Journal of Medicine: USA's first case: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

    May 15, 2020, Trump announces Operation Warp Speed (OPWASP) and appoints Moderna Board Director, Dr Moncef M. Slaoui as project leader.
    AP News President Trump appoints Dr Slaoui: https://apnews.com/article/virus-out...2ebefd0af1ade4
    Pt 8

    November 17, 2020, scientists Rossana Segreto and Yuri Deigin conducted studies and determined the genetic structure of SARS-COV2 does not rule out a laboratory origin. SARS-COV2 chimeric structure and furin cleavage site might be the result of genetic manipulation.

    The brunt of their paper's conclusion stated: "On the basis of our analysis, an artificial origin of SARS-COV2 is not a baseless conspiracy theory that is to be condemned and researchers have the responsibility to consider all possible causes for SARS-COV2 emergence. The insertion of human-adapted pangolin CoV RBD obtained by cell/animal serial passage and furin cleavage site could arise from site-directed mutagenesis experiments, in a context of evolutionary studies or development of pan-CoV vaccines or drugs. A recent article in Nature affirms that a laboratory origin for SARS-COV2 cannot be ruled out, as researchers could have been infected accidentally, and that gain-of-function experiments resulting in SARS-COV2 could have been performed at WIV. Genetic manipulation of SARS-COV2 may have been carried out in any laboratory in the world with access to the backbone sequence and the necessary equipment and it would not leave any trace. Modern technologies based on synthetic genetics platforms allow the reconstruction of viruses based on their genomic sequence, without the need of a natural isolate."
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7744920/
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    Lmfao even my vaxxcel shill friends are starting to get annoyed with these charlatans.

    It isn't happening fast enough - look at the idiots further up in this thread. They just refuse to admit they've been played and instead double down on their terrible decision to cope with it.

    Statistically speaking, getting that many injections of experimental drugs, eventually something bad is going to happen to you. When will vaxxcels learn?
    Some of us want to keep our jobs and go to restaurants and concerts. In California I don’t personally know someone who isn’t vaxxed.

    I haven’t had any side effects since I got it in May, other than a fever the night of the second shot.

    I’m not a fan of even getting the flu shot, but I’m not just going to sit at home. I want to go kayaking, sailing, SantaCon bar hopping, etc. and we need the vax card to do those things. I’ve been sitting at home too long.
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    Some of us want to keep our jobs and go to restaurants and concerts. In California I don’t personally know someone who isn’t vaxxed.

    I haven’t had any side effects since I got it in May, other than a fever the night of the second shot.

    I’m not a fan of even getting the flu shot, but I’m not just going to sit at home. I want to go kayaking, sailing, SantaCon bar hopping, etc. and we need the vax card to do those things. I’ve been sitting at home too long.
    LOL at the resilience of the human spirit.....now if they move the goal posts and insist on more jabs how many will you take before you say no or will you end up a pin cushion
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    I mean, normally people would take a vaccine because they believe it is useful....

    Not because it sets them free.
    Well I also did it for my elderly parents and aunt. I don’t want to give them Covid. I’m sure I’d survive Covid.
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    Well I also did it for my elderly parents and aunt. I don’t want to give them Covid. I’m sure I’d survive Covid.
    I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but you getting pricked to not pass rona to your parents was in vain because you CAN 'still infect them'.

    Yikes


    Getting pricked for 'freedom' (like you need to be injected to go kayaking LUL)



    Again, my condolences
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    Originally Posted by shadowstrength View Post
    I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but you getting pricked to not pass rona to your parents was in vain because you CAN 'still infect them'.

    Yikes


    Getting pricked for 'freedom' (like you need to be injected to go kayaking LUL)



    Again, my condolences
    You have to show your vax card to go kayaking and do various activities that are even outdoors.

    It’s annoying as I don’t want the booster since I had a fever and chills with the second shot but I also want to keep my job.
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    You have to show your vax card to go kayaking and do various activities that are even outdoors.

    It’s annoying as I don’t want the booster since I had a fever and chills with the second shot but I also want to keep my job.
    Why would you want to keep a job that is coercing you into getting inoculated?

    And you can do all those various outdoor activities, like kayaking, without a proof of injection
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    Some of us want to keep our jobs and go to restaurants and concerts. In California I don’t personally know someone who isn’t vaxxed.

    I haven’t had any side effects since I got it in May, other than a fever the night of the second shot.

    I’m not a fan of even getting the flu shot, but I’m not just going to sit at home. I want to go kayaking, sailing, SantaCon bar hopping, etc. and we need the vax card to do those things. I’ve been sitting at home too long.
    can you still go to restaurants, kayaking or concerts when you are crippled or dead from the vaxx? hello mcfly!
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    First video is about how Pfizer fudged their data and second video is about preliminary studies showing that the spike protein from the vaccines actually go into the nucleus and fk your DNA hard. Pure bloods stay pure blooded. Someone embed pls.
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    Some of us want to keep our jobs and go to restaurants and concerts. In California I don’t personally know someone who isn’t vaxxed.

    I haven’t had any side effects since I got it in May, other than a fever the night of the second shot.

    I’m not a fan of even getting the flu shot, but I’m not just going to sit at home. I want to go kayaking, sailing, SantaCon bar hopping, etc. and we need the vax card to do those things. I’ve been sitting at home too long.
    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    Well I also did it for my elderly parents and aunt. I don’t want to give them Covid. I’m sure I’d survive Covid.
    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    You have to show your vax card to go kayaking and do various activities that are even outdoors.

    It’s annoying as I don’t want the booster since I had a fever and chills with the second shot but I also want to keep my job.
    This is the epitome of the average media consoomer

    Taking a vaccine to get your freedom back, believing the lie that taking the vaccine will help protect those around you.

    You think it ends here? You're now dependant on the system, unable to escape the enclosed circle you've put yourself in. What's to stop your place of work demanding you get a booster? Or that these outdoor places require the same? Where does it end?

    I find it troubling that people roll over so easy and not think for themselves, all these places need to be boycotted and challenged when these measures are imposed. I realise that you'll lose your job etc etc, but sometimes that's the price that needs to be paid in order to preserve our way of life, our sovereignty, our dignity and our freedom.
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    Originally Posted by meatlog View Post
    This is the epitome of the average media consoomer

    Taking a vaccine to get your freedom back, believing the lie that taking the vaccine will help protect those around you.

    You think it ends here? You're now dependant on the system, unable to escape the enclosed circle you've put yourself in. What's to stop your place of work demanding you get a booster? Or that these outdoor places require the same? Where does it end?

    I find it troubling that people roll over so easy and not think for themselves, all these places need to be boycotted and challenged when these measures are imposed. I realise that you'll lose your job etc etc, but sometimes that's the price that needs to be paid in order to preserve our way of life, our sovereignty, our dignity and our freedom.

    the average person is vacuous weak and defy all logic just to get along, whenever i point out the utter failings of the vaccines, lockdowns and the imposition on civil liberties ..............the main response is crickets ....cognitive dissonance is everywhere
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    You have to show your vax card to go kayaking and do various activities that are even outdoors.

    It’s annoying as I don’t want the booster since I had a fever and chills with the second shot but I also want to keep my job.
    You deserve all that shiit. You and all your cronies in that shiit state voted for that so revel in your misery and bend ovah for your boosters and like it.
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