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    $450,000?

    Brilliant marketing move or a desperate move by the administration? Personally I think this has to be one of the most asinine ideas ever floated and will lead to impeachment and removal from office if it ever got to the serious stage of actually being enacted.

    I would love to know who the person is that proposed this?
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    Sounds like encouraging people to swarm the border
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    Any Congressman or Admin who agrees to this should put their personal fortune in the kitty.
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    How about giving 450k to homeless vets sleeping on the streets first.
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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    How about giving 450k to homeless vets sleeping on the streets first.
    They don't vote, so won't happen.
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    The ACLU is suing the government for all the families affected by the separation at the border. It is around 5,500 families. They are suing for an average of 3.4 million for each of the 5,500. It isn't really a choice between settling and not settling, it's a choice between settling and fighting it in court. It’s a good chance we are going to have to pay one way or another, and this is likely the cheaper of the two options.
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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    How about giving 450k to homeless vets sleeping on the streets first.
    They'll still be sleeping on the street, but will become a target with all that newfound wealth.

    Just like if this money were to be given to refugees, back home their relatives would be kidnapped for ransom.

    Just a stupid idea all around.
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    Just a stupid idea all around.

    .....and you voted for it
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    While there is not a chance in hell that it’ll ever become reality it does illustrate the utter stupidity of the Dem party. Where are the 81,000,000 people pushing for it? I hope they all learned a valuable lesson.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    The ACLU is suing the government for all the families affected by the separation at the border. It is around 5,500 families. They are suing for an average of 3.4 million for each of the 5,500. It isn't really a choice between settling and not settling, it's a choice between settling and fighting it in court. It’s a good chance we are going to have to pay one way or another, and this is likely the cheaper of the two options.
    The ACLU needs to go the F away. It isn’t the IACLU. Those people have no rights here. You get these immigration attorneys and lib judges together and we have this kind of BS.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    The ACLU needs to go the F away. It isn’t the IACLU. Those people have no rights here. You get these immigration attorneys and lib judges together and we have this kind of BS.
    Dude, do u not realize how bitter and stale u are? I know u dont know me from chit, but I got nothing to gain from saying what I'm saying. Frankly, I find all this negative tribal bullsh!t talk a waste of time and even killz yur gainz. Cortizol dude, look it up!

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    Originally Posted by ChazWood View Post
    Dude, do u not realize how bitter and stale u are? I know u dont know me from chit, but I got nothing to gain from saying what I'm saying. Frankly, I find all this negative tribal bullsh!t talk a waste of time and even killz yur gainz. Cortizol dude, look it up!

    Why not channel that energy into something constructive.
    Bitter and stale? More like fed the F up with this BS. Anyone that isn’t needs to have their head examined.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    The ACLU needs to go the F away.
    They are a fine organization when they defend the parts of the constitution that they like. Unfortunately they pretend the second amendment doesn’t exist and have become more and more obsessed with identity politics.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    Those people have no rights here.
    I missed this edit.

    Yes, they explicitly do have rights. Nowhere in the first 10 amendments to the Constitution is the word “citizen.” The Bill of Rights protects everyone, including undocumented immigrants, to exercise free speech, religion, assembly, and to be free from unlawful government interference.

    Undocumented immigrants charged with a criminal offense have the same due process protections as everyone else, the right to a speedy and public trial by jury, the right against unlawful searches and seizures, and the right to an attorney among others. Status as a non-citizen in no way affects the procedure of a criminal trial, such as the burden of proof that the State must meet, or the presumption of innocence.

    The 14th Amendment ensures that “…nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    Bitter and stale? More like fed the F up with this BS. Anyone that isn’t needs to have their head examined.
    Funny you should say that, Tommy.

    Last Saturday morning at 8:00, I had an MRI of guess what... my skull. Looking for stuff that shouldn't be there. Whatever. Got the results back Thursday and BOOM: Normal. So I've had my head examined and stand behind what I said towards your person. Yur a stale, bitter old man.

    Haha! u know what. I just now realized I'm wasting my time and u probably dig this kinda dialogue. Awesome distraction one could say. But from what???

    I'm done.

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    Originally Posted by ChazWood View Post
    EDIT2: and obviously, posting on a forum is not action.

    Actually, it could be, for instance the great Firewall (you know what that is, this is Chinas SM) if you speak about government the way Tommy does they come for you.

    This could very well happen and some of the big tech companies will push for Internet regulations to keep their billions coming in, unlike what these snot nose geeks used to believe about Internet Freedom.

    Some people would like nothing more for the government to come for them all over what they said on the Internet, there is an opportunity for self preserved justice there, just saying.......................
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Actually, it could be, for instance the great Firewall (you know what that is, this is Chinas SM) if you speak about government the way Tommy does they come for you.

    This could very well happen and some of the big tech companies will push for Internet regulations to keep their billions coming in, unlike what these snot nose geeks used to believe about Internet Freedom.

    Some people would like nothing more for the government to come for them all over what they said on the Internet, there is an opportunity for self preserved justice there, just saying.......................
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    Originally Posted by ChazWood View Post
    holy chit Dude, just live yur life.



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    Take your own advice from the first quote, why do you feel the need to always jump in everyone's negative $hit posting on an Internet forum?
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Take your own advice from the first quote, why do you feel the need to always jump in everyone's negative $hit posting on an Internet forum?
    I'm just trying to help, Dude, and is that all really true? I actually hold back 90% of what I wanna say. Frankly, I try to post stuff that doesn't only serve to entertain or validate my still mostly dumbass self. I'd easy be up to 40k by now if I posted everything.

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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    They'll still be sleeping on the street, but will become a target with all that newfound wealth.

    Just like if this money were to be given to refugees, back home their relatives would be kidnapped for ransom.

    Just a stupid idea all around.
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    I am not sure why we’re acting like this is a choice on behalf of the justice department in prioritizing illegals over citizens. The government isn't so much 'prioritizing' them as 'trying to head off an even more expensive and likely to succeed lawsuit'. This was going to come to a head regardless of who was in the Oval Office or what their policy goals are. As they’re not paying them for “breaking the law”. They’re paying them because they violated their rights. They can always take it to court though and try to win there. They haven’t even paid anything yet, these are just talks of a settlement trying to be arranged. The government doesn’t seem to feel like they have a good defense if they’re trying to settle, but from a political standpoint it’s probably smarter to go to court over it.
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    The ACLU is suing the government for all the families affected by the separation at the border. It is around 5,500 families. They are suing for an average of 3.4 million for each of the 5,500. It isn't really a choice between settling and not settling, it's a choice between settling and fighting it in court. It’s a good chance we are going to have to pay one way or another, and this is likely the cheaper of the two options.
    Whenever anybody is detained for violating the law, they are generally separated from their families. That said, the cheaper option isn't always the best option. It might be cheaper in the short term, but by "settling" you create a giant incentive for even more people to come here illegally to exploit our unmitigated stupidity.
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    Whenever anybody is detained for violating the law, they are generally separated from their families. That said, the cheaper option isn't always the best option. It might be cheaper in the short term, but by "settling" you create a giant incentive for even more people to come here illegally to exploit our unmitigated stupidity.
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    I should renounce my US citizenship and come back illegally and profit from the said "unmitigated stupidity."
    The money is only for those illegals that were "separated" under Trump.
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    I am not sure why we’re acting like this is a choice on behalf of the justice department in prioritizing illegals over citizen.
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