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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Agreed. It was obviously a real gun capable of using real bullets and it was on the set. Why the fuk why?

    A real bullet killed the lady. How on earth can a real bullet get into a real gun on a movie set? The only answer IMO is that someone intentionally put it there. A monkey would know the difference between a real bullet and a blank.
    He’s very anti gun and anti 2a. Those people generally have little, if any, gun knowledge.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    He’s very anti gun and anti 2a. Those people generally have little, if any, gun knowledge.
    But, that doesn't answer my rhetorical, but logical questions. Movies with guns have been around for over 90 years. It doesn't matter if the actor has no experience with guns. The people who supply and then check the guns are responsible and Baldwin should have been the final check.

    A real gun was loaded with at least one real bullet. Someone did it. Premeditated and planned murder.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post

    A real gun was loaded with at least one real bullet. Someone did it.
    Yep, that round didn't crawl in there
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    But, that doesn't answer my rhetorical, but logical questions. Movies with guns have been around for over 90 years. It doesn't matter if the actor has no experience with guns. The people who supply and then check the guns are responsible and Baldwin should have been the final check.

    A real gun was loaded with at least one real bullet. Someone did it. Premeditated and planned murder.
    There's scuttlebutt that the gun was used for target practice during off hours on the set.

    Looks like it was a shat show all around.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    But, that doesn't answer my rhetorical, but logical questions. Movies with guns have been around for over 90 years. It doesn't matter if the actor has no experience with guns. The people who supply and then check the guns are responsible and Baldwin should have been the final check.

    A real gun was loaded with at least one real bullet. Someone did it. Premeditated and planned murder.
    my point was that if someone is not gun savvy will a have a difficult time acknowledging if a gun is safe or not. id imagine the person that was in charge of checking these things will be found responsible
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    Poor taste? maybe

    Maybe his impersonations of Donald are in poor taste

    Either way, I don't think Don Jr. gives a shytt about Alec Baldwin

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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    He’s very anti gun and anti 2a. Those people generally have little, if any, gun knowledge.
    IDK what his stance on guns is, but he sides with gun grabbers and here he is pointing guns at people all to sell entertainment to a bunch of idiots.
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    Originally Posted by deadwoodgregg View Post
    Poor taste? maybe

    Maybe his impersonations of Donald are in poor taste

    Either way, I don't think Don Jr. gives a shytt about Alec Baldwin

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    I couldn't care less about Alec or Orange mans grifting off spring but what's lost is that a woman lost her life and another person was injured. But I guess dunking on one another over fuking politics is more important.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    I couldn't care less about Alex or Orange mans grifting off spring but what's lost is that a woman lost her life and another person was injured. But I guess dunking on one another over fuking politics is more important.
    Pretty sh*tty… even for him .
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    Originally Posted by quicksand jesus View Post
    Pretty sh*tty… even for him .
    Yup for sure, no winners in this fiasco. I bet Alec wishes he could have a do over on this one. Many lives changed forever because of careless negligence. Something that should have never happened.
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    IDK what his stance on guns is, but he sides with gun grabbers and here he is pointing guns at people all to sell entertainment to a bunch of idiots.
    While getting paid millions of dollars! And frankly IMHO, he hasn't done a decent performance since Glengarry Glen Ross like 20 years ago!

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    I couldn't care less about Alec or Orange mans grifting off spring but what's lost is that a woman lost her life and another person was injured. But I guess dunking on one another over fuking politics is more important.
    Unfortunately politics are front row center on most things now days which is the new normal. I'll tell you one thing though, If Don Jr. accidentally shot someone in a hunting accident the left would be melting down over it. Alec is getting off easy from a political standpoint.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    Unfortunately politics are front row center on most things now days which is the new normal. I'll tell you one thing though, If Don Jr. accidentally shot someone in a hunting accident the left would be melting down over it. Alec is getting off easy from a political standpoint.

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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    Unfortunately politics are front row center on most things now days which is the new normal. I'll tell you one thing though, If Don Jr. accidentally shot someone in a hunting accident the left would be melting down over it. Alec is getting off easy from a political standpoint.
    It's not though. If you go out in the real world almost no one is talking about politics. It only seems that way because its prevalent online.

    And LOL at your whataboutism. Time to grow up, you're 70.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    It's not though. If you go out in the real world almost no one is talking about politics. It only seems that way because its prevalent online.

    And LOL at your whataboutism. Time to grow up, you're 70.
    I'm married to a liberal college professor and I'm here to tell you that politics are not limited to the internet. You can bit*ch all you want however you're just another Lib.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    I'm married to a liberal college professor and I'm here to tell you that politics are not limited to the internet. You can bit*ch all you want however you're just another Lib.
    What exactly makes me an "evil" lib? You can call me whatever you want, online

    Good chance you filter your life through a political lens and bring it with you everywhere you go. Not surprised you feel that way. Its you!
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    Always assume that the damn gun is loaded, even if someone tells you otherwise... I don't care if you're a gun control liberal or an NRA card carrying conservative;keep your finger off the trigger, open the action and fukin check.
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    Always assume that the damn gun is loaded, even if someone tells you otherwise... I don't care if you're a gun control liberal or an NRA card carrying conservative;keep your finger off the trigger, open the action and fukin check.
    How about simply not allowing real guns and real bullets on a movie set.
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    How about simply not allowing real guns and real bullets on a movie set.
    That would be too easy!
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    How about simply not allowing real guns and real bullets on a movie set.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    I couldn't care less about Alec or Orange mans grifting off spring but what's lost is that a woman lost her life and another person was injured. But I guess dunking on one another over fuking politics is more important.

    You don’t get it, again.......

    Maybe those folks should choose a more rewarding business.

    Making and selling chit that does nothing for society ( of course those artists think they are so essential) and playing weapons ain’t smart.

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    You don’t get it, again.......

    Maybe those folks should choose a more rewarding business.

    Making and selling chit that does nothing for society ( of course those artists think they are so essential) and playing weapons ain’t smart.

    I’m not being too real here, just saying, from your favorite turd, lol.
    Right, its her fault. /rolleyes (you're still my fav turd )

    @Mark - yup. Why on earth are they using real firearms anyway? CGI that **** in after??
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    Right, its her fault. /rolleyes
    I would NEVER let someone fire a gun at me, blanks or no blanks. I mean really? If anything I would want to learn to check the thing MYSELF not rely on a bunch a fuks to say "cold gun", I still wouldn't let someone do that to me.

    BTW, it was also that girls fault who got shot at the capital, right back at ya!!!
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    your favorite turd, lol.

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    an act that I think anyone with any real knowledge of guns and gun safety would never do.
    The First Sergeant of B Company, 1st Battalion, 6th Infantry, 1st AD was shot in the head as his unit was returning from a patrol in Ramadi, Iraq in 2006, by the unit armorer, who was riding in the rear seat of 1SG's vehicle. They were dismounting to clear their weapons after re-entering the FOB. The bullet only grazed the side of his face leaving him with a bad ass scar but no permanent injury, other than a lifelong hatred for armorers that will burn in his heart forever.

    A different armorer in the same Battalion discharged a Browning cal .50 in the Arms Room on Camp Blue Diamond, less than a month later.
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    The First Sergeant of 1st Battalion, 6th Infantry, 1st AD was shot in the head as his unit was returning from a patrol in Ramadi, Iraq in 2006, by the unit armorer, who was riding in the rear seat of 1SG's vehicle. They were dismounting to clear their weapons after re-entering the FOB. The bullet only grazed the side of his face leaving him with a bad ass scar but no permanent injury, other than a lifelong hatred for armorers that will burn in his heart forever.

    A different armorer in the same Battalion discharged a Browning cal .50 in the Arms Room on Camp Blue Diamond, less than a month later.
    Horrific. How does an armorer with a history of "accidents," get another gig, as an armorer?

    ‘Careless’ Rust armorer criticized over safety on previous film, before Alec Baldwin shooting incident

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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Horrific. How does an armorer with a history of "accidents," get another gig, as an armorer?
    Unions.

    Specifically, The International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States, its Territories and Canada (I.A.T.S.E.).
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    Alec Baldwin among those responsible for checking gun, ‘Rust’ crew member says

    A location manager for “Rust” says at least four people were responsible for checking the weapon that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins — including gun-firing star Alec Baldwin.

    “A massive mistake was made,” Stacey Mickey-Evans told Australia’s 92.5 Triple M Gold Coast.

    “There are massive protocols to stop these things from happening. There are multiple checks for it,” she said Sunday.

    She noted that the armorist, assistant director and the key grip are supposed to “check the gun … no matter what’s going on on set.
    “And then very lastly, the actor checks the gun,” she said of Baldwin, who was also one of the movie’s executive producers.

    “So there are four to five people in this stage,” she said, but “somehow there was a failure.”


    Everyone who handled the firearm that day is accountable for what happened. According to some news reports, that's the armorer, assistant director, key grip, and Baldwin himself.

    That is Rule #1 of firearm safety - Treat every weapon as if it were loaded. If any of those four had done that, this tragedy could have been avoided.

    Ironically, as much as he spoke out against the NRA, if Baldwin had actually received proper firearms training this would have never happened. He literally demonstrated why if you're going to use a gun, you should receive training.

    He has killed more people than the average gun owner now.
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