If not I highly recommend. This got dropped off today.
https://himiwaybike.com/products/him...ctric-fat-bike
Assembled it and all the accessories I had waiting for it’s arrival (mirror, phone mount, cloud 9 seat, top bag, rack bag with saddle bags. Then unlocked some “secret” settings to make some adjustments to power and peddle assist levels. It is a BEHEMOTH! It’s like riding a silent two wheeled monster truck. My daughter and I went on a 12 mile loop, it barely used any assist since I had it turned way down and I got a better workout (75lbs of fat tire bike) but it was nice getting a little boost on some hills. Then I went back out solo and put it through its paces. With the settings adjusted it can scream along at 30 mph pretty easily but I ran out of gears. Replacing the front chain ring tomorrow with a 52t to increase the gear ratio a bit. I ended up doing close to 30 miles today. I was never gassed while riding but feeling pretty tired now. I didn’t charge the battery yet and still had 3 bars left so I’m guessing with the work I put in I could probably get well over 65 miles of range with assist. Throttle only, Im not sure it draws a lot of battery, I did one speed run with it and it’s faster than its class 2 rating. Flys through the air pretty well too, but can tell it’s huge and 75 lbs, no flinging it around.
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Thread: Anyone on here try an E-bike?
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10-10-2021, 05:31 PM #1
Anyone on here try an E-bike?
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10-10-2021, 06:25 PM #2
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We just came back from Daytona Beach. We saw LOTS. I think they're going to become quite popular (more so that they Segway).
I've seen them advertised in hunting magazines. I think there are several places that I could hunt behind bird dogs with one.Pull-Up PR: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=177233951
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10-10-2021, 06:58 PM #3
Yeah there are a lot of applications. I road a fat bike of a guy I work with a couple years ago in the snow. It went through it no problem, but even better with some assist. So far this is a win. Bought it for the big LG/Samsung battery, most of the electric bikes are very similar in other parts within each price range. I did a good bit of research before ordering. I think I ordered it last Sunday so it took a week, earlier in the year people were waiting 9-12.
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10-10-2021, 07:01 PM #4
They are very cool. I always read about them when I see an article. Have for years. You seem to have picked out a good one. You do a lot of research before choosing this one?
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10-10-2021, 07:25 PM #5
Yeah did a lot of research. This one is better than most of the competition in the $2000 range, has a better warranty, but have to deal with a manufacturer seller rather than a bike shop for repairs like the higher cost lesser performing bikes RAD and Aventon. That said if I have an issue I’m stuck dealing with a Chinese company so things take longer, have send them vids etc. usually they just have you take it to a bike shop and reimburse you, but I can adjust and fix most things bike related. It’s a great time, I adjusted my assist setting from 0-5 to 0-9 and programmed them to match my needs for ride speeds. Then it’s like you are riding a regular bike until you start climbing a hill and the motor rolls-on and you just peddle right up at the same speed with just a little more effort than flat ground (or could just use all motor I guess).
My legs are feeling wrecked now.
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10-10-2021, 08:13 PM #6
e-bikes are a game changer and could save the world.
yeah, probably not, but they freakin' awesome and awesome to hear you're digging yours. I've been researching one for my wife so she can avoid public transit and ride to and from work, weather permitting. Leaning towards a Trek model which are pricey but u get solid support with the Wisconsin based company. No problem fixing anything of my own, but if I touch her stuff and something goes amiss, it's my fault. And there's no apparent statute of limitations on the matter. I touch it, I broke it.
and good to hear u finally did some cardio.
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10-10-2021, 08:55 PM #7
Just recalled a recent read; somewhat related, that may be of interest.
Inside the Company Trying to Solve the Global Bicycle Shortage
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10-11-2021, 02:46 AM #8
Nope, but was looking at these a bit till I realized I'd probably kill myself and they are not legal here I think. The guy in the vid is in Poland I think..
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10-11-2021, 04:00 AM #9
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10-11-2021, 06:04 AM #10
For sure having a brick and mortar store would improve after sale service and repair. I've had several Trek bikes, my dad is riding a 6500 I had in college and snapped the frame (Trek replaced and swapped everything over to new frame. Currently most/all the major manufacturers frames are made in Taiwan in a state of the art facility. Crank drive rather than hub drive is probably the best for e-bikes, especially when paired with a torque sensor rather than cadence/speed, but the hub drive with a cadence works really well. They would make the commute fun!
I saw one of those on a paved trail the other day, definitely looked like an injury waiting to happen. The battery longboard skateboards are interesting too.
Yeah you can pay as much as you want, I have a high-end full suspension mountain bike that was around $3,500 more than 10 years ago (all XTR components) and a Specialized Stump Jumper from 1999 with one of the last hand built in the USA frames that I converted into a paved trail bike (changed ergos and high pressure tires). This thing is so much fun though, hope to get a ride in after work if its not raining.
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10-11-2021, 06:20 AM #11
I discovered a long time ago that you can only get so wet.
I ****ing believe you that they're fun. Occasionally, I see people stopped at red lights and zooming off when the light turns green without any movement on their part. I've done a ton of research and concluded that retrofitting is the way to go for me. The 'Globe Sport Touring' is special.
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10-11-2021, 07:10 AM #12
It's got 50 * 18650 batteries in there - and Samsung make good ones (i.e. the ones LG make for Samsung are good) so the powerpack is good.
It's got a decent brushless motor, so the motor is good too
It looks a good bike!
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10-11-2021, 07:44 AM #13
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My wife has not-too-seriously considered getting one to ride with me. I live in biking mecca with beautiful country scenery and some phenomenal hills. Bikers in the surrounding area commute (by car) to my area with their bikes on racks just to ride the roads near me. But the hills are definitely too much for my wife. We considered renting bikes while on vacation in Daytona but we never did it
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10-11-2021, 07:58 AM #14
I have tried a few, It's not for me atm, but I can see the draw. I cycle for exercise and enjoy my conventional bike. I have tried the fat tire model of E Bike, it was pretty cool and more along the lines of something I could use but I would really lean towards and off road E bike, sort of like the old mini bike style with the wide tires. Would be great for dodging down the trails for fishing. Good luck and have fun with your new ride PP, they are pretty cool.
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10-11-2021, 08:30 AM #15
Yeah conversion kits are pretty reasonable if you want to DIY. I didn't want to modify any of my conventional bikes.
Yep, that is why I went with the Himiway. The battery and motor are the most important things for an ebike. The battery alone is around $500 but highly rated. The frame and components are lower end Shimano, but good enough for my needs, I'm not racing it. Taking off from a stop with throttle only is the way to do it with control. If you have peddle assist set to a high setting and take off from a stop it will rocket you off until you get to the speed that its set to once you start peddling. My wife almost crashed it trying to turn around and started to peddle and it wanted to get up to 12 mph immediately lol. Would need peddle assist on the lowest setting or off for technical maneuvers that involve peddling.
I say go for it, she will be able to keep up with you no matter how good of shape you are in or the size and grade of the hills. The step through frame might be a little easier for her, but they are BIG bikes and you feel like you are way up in the air.
It can still be good exercise if you don't get lazy and use too much assist. They are great for outdoor rec, but the smaller versions might be better for tight woods. The huge version is a handful and might be hard to handle on tight single track. I have a 200cc Coleman minibike I use for hunting. Installed a torque convertor and it will drag deer up hills on a sled and is narrow enough to drive down the middle of standing corn rows. E-bike would be good for lighter duty hunting fishing, but prefer gas powered for deer dragging . Crazy how much a minor change in position on a bike works different muscles, my hamstrings are fried today. On my more aggressive position on on my other two bike I get more quad work.
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10-11-2021, 10:57 AM #16
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10-11-2021, 11:17 AM #17
If their E bikes are like their conventional bikes they are probably pretty good. (I put over 10,000 miles on a Trek fx 3 minimal maintenance) Trek makes a quality bike, but not 18 grand nice imo
I rode the Townie Go 7D Step-Over by Trek, it was a nice ride and the weight came in less than 50 lbs the battery was rear rack mounted. The only thing I wasn't fond of was the mechanical disc brakes. I got used to hydraulic and love them.Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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10-11-2021, 12:16 PM #18
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10-11-2021, 04:52 PM #19
Yeah the behemoth has mechanical disc brakes (cost savings) and they stop you, but they are nothing like hydraulic, way less precise control and stopping power. I can grab two handfuls of them and stop pretty fast, but if someone’s grip strength wasn’t very good emergency stopping a 75lb bike at 30 mph with mechanical disc brakes might make make for a bad day. The Townie you rode are pretty neat. I think they have a much smaller motor but probably plenty to get the assist needed. I don’t think I’ve seen more than 3 bars of power usage from mine other than some throttle only speed runs, so a 350w motor is probably more than enough for peddling along and a smaller battery would get more miles too with less weight and less draw from the motor.
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10-11-2021, 07:09 PM #20
My current understanding is that hub drive is more responsive and, well, direct than crank. Being directly on the wheel and physics. What's cool is that the market for ebikes has exploded since COVID and the surge will translate to moar money for R&D which will benefit all cyclists. Except unicyclists, obviously.
haha! I think 18k is for pro level bikes. For my wife I'm considering the Verve+ 3 or the Aliant+ 8S. The Aliant is more performance based and looks more badass, so we'll probably go with that one.
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10-12-2021, 03:44 AM #21
We got one of these at work that we can sign out for a week to commute by bike:
I was the first customer. I commuted with it, rode it otherwise, and put 150 miles on it that week. My wife rode it on the weekend and we rode together. I liked it a lot.
Not sure of the algorithm, but I think at max power it about doubles your power. It's real heavy, as am I, so I still have to work hard up the hills. It's not a motorcycle.
I will say that out on the road I had some real cyclists ignore me and not give a wave or acknowledgement. Apparently it's not wave-worthy.
I ride in group rides (on my real bike) with a club on weekends and we have a few people who ride e-bikes. I'm fine with it but some others look down their noses. The e-bike riders are folks who couldn't keep up otherwise. Apparently there's a guy in his 70s who was quite a rider in his day who rides an e-bike with the A ride. They're cool with it.
There are e-bikes that look exactly like a normal road bike.
I've heard from the bike shop guy and from some other sources that e-bikes are currently outselling regular bikes.
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10-12-2021, 01:28 PM #22
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10-12-2021, 05:52 PM #23
For whatever reason crank drives are said to be better. I’d think they’d be less efficient since they are turning the crank and chain rather than just the rear wheel. Maybe how the torque is applied IDK. They are fun though. We went 18 miles tonight, I had charged it fully and didn’t even use a single bar of battery. I try to keep working and not rely on it and it kicks in on hills and from stops. It is really fun the few times I used throttle only and went bombing across open grass with hills/jumps
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10-12-2021, 05:55 PM #24
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10-12-2021, 07:56 PM #25
Yeah, I've seen them and test drove both, and was supremely impressed. Trek build quality is at the top of their market segment as far as I can tell. Of course the lower end models dont go through the most rigorous qc inspections, but the mid to top end products are outstanding value. Not to mention a blast to ride. Most of the time.
Plateau Dude, I see an upgrade to full-tilt mountain action on a Trek Rail or the like in your not too distant future. Meanwhile, awesome you're enjoying whatchugot.
EDIT: and I'm not working for Trek. Yet.
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10-13-2021, 03:53 AM #26
My real bike is a 1977 Trek road bike I got when I was 14. It was a semi-custom deal in those days and I worked with a bike shop to order it from the factory. You had options on the frame details as well as the components. I rode it to the factory when I got it. Just a few guys with ponytails sitting around making bikes.
Still works good. I ride it a lot. Did a 100 mile race in August and ate pavement going fast at mile 65. Handlebars are a bit bent, but no other bike damage. I finished the race. Bruised up pretty good and still missing some skin, but very happy it wasn't worse.
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10-13-2021, 04:55 AM #27
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10-13-2021, 07:43 AM #28
I've had many bikes. The older higher end bikes were worth the price. Anymore they are not in my opinion. Trek, Specialized, and every other manufacturers' frames are built in the same factory in Taiwan. The components are all purchased from other vendors (except specialized makes their own tires since they started out as a tire maker). I have owned a upper Tier Trek MTB, currently have a hardtail Specialized Stump Jumper with a hand built frame. My last high-end bike purchase was from Bikes Direct and was a Motobecane Phantom Pro Team (full suspension). I purchased for around $3,500 and it has all XTR components and weighed 26lbs. The equivalent from Trek or Specialized would have been over $6k. I don't need to pay double to get a specific name on the frame or a free tune-up from a bike shop. I can adjust and repair about anything that can go wrong on a conventional bike. For the E-bike, yes paying a little more for a shop is a decision you need to make for yourself because I know that any warranty items will be time consuming dealing with an overseas company. That said every part on every e-bike is available becuase none of the manufactures make their own. You are mostly paying extra for the name and a brick and mortar retailer. My Himiway rocks so far and I am very happy with the purchase. Might buy another one for the wife, but she's small and even the step-through is a monster lol.
Yikes! I have had a LOT of crashes on dirt, none serious, but going down at speed on asphalt that would suck.
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10-13-2021, 07:52 AM #29
Where I live at the beach there are thousands. The kids are dangers to others and themselves on the beach trails and in town, no awareness of traffic and pedestrians. I saw a 12 year old girl going down a hill about 40 mph, no helmet while texting. They are good in one respect as they get people outdoors. They will probably be regulated soon as they're basically just motorcycles with pedals
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10-13-2021, 09:12 AM #30
This is basically the reason for my low tech e-bike solution. I have what you call a behemoth of a bike with a lifetime frame warranty and 24 gears that I love:
I just can't decide how to retrofit fit it. I don't need any bells and whistles; I just want help in the wind and for going up that last hill at the end of a fully loaded 60 miler
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