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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    How many Olympic medalists have they produced? All together.
    And this is relevant to IQ how?

    Your statement was that vegan diets cause a lowering of IQ, not anything related to the olympics.

    That being said, here are some vegan athletes who HAVE won medals in the olympics...

    Serena Williams
    Venus Willams
    Maegan Duhamel
    Alex Morgan
    Carl Lewis
    Hannah Teter
    David Verbug

    Not to mention plenty of top/high level athletes in other sports....

    Novak Djokovic
    Chris Paul
    Colin Kaepernick
    Cam Newton
    Elijah Hall

    and many more....



    Im not seeing any of them dropping dead, and especially no issues with IQ that you can show.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    And this is relevant to IQ how?

    Your statement was that vegan diets cause a lowering of IQ, not anything related to the olympics.

    That being said, here are some vegan athletes who HAVE won medals in the olympics...

    Serena Williams
    Venus Willams
    Maegan Duhamel
    Alex Morgan
    Carl Lewis
    Hannah Teter
    David Verbug

    Not to mention plenty of top/high level athletes in other sports....

    Novak Djokovic
    Chris Paul
    Colin Kaepernick
    Cam Newton
    Elijah Hall

    and many more....



    Im not seeing any of them dropping dead, and especially no issues with IQ that you can show.
    Yes, I don’t want the OP losing IQ points. I like to see people getting sharper and smarter…..the fact that Colin Kaepernick was brought up on that list proves that one will in fact become less intelligent, look at his critical thinking skills. It’s science.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    His science is reality, and that's a fact
    What does that even mean?
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    Yes, I don’t want the OP losing IQ points. I like to see people getting sharper and smarter…..the fact that Colin Kaepernick was brought up on that list proves that one will in fact become less intelligent, look at his critical thinking skills. It’s science.
    I think I’m done here… you’re either trolling again or I’m wasting time
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    Originally Posted by faithbrah View Post
    how i go to sleep knowing this will become a heated precursor shake 2.0 argument


    I can assure you if it becomes heated it won’t be because of me. I give straight forward information that’s withstood the test of time, being vegan has a very small percentage of success in the world of athletics and muscle…it’s far from the majority. Sure it’ll work to a degree but add some meat and you’ll only do better.
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    I think I’m done here… you’re either trolling again or I’m wasting time
    I’ll see you in the food face offs my friend!!! Trying to win some brownie points with Paul.
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    Would Nate Diaz have a belt if he wasn't vegan?

    I personally feel it would of helped his chances, he's a great fighter, and I'm a huge Diaz guy. Inflammation is a mutha and Tom Brady seems to have defied the odds with his vegan diet, but muscle and power isn't a concern for him
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Would Nate Diaz have a belt if he wasn't vegan?

    I personally feel it would of helped his chances, he's a great fighter, and I'm a huge Diaz guy. Inflammation is a mutha and Tom Brady seems to have defied the odds with his vegan diet, but muscle and power isn't a concern for him
    How many KO artists are vegan? Mr Olympias?

    That number always seems to stay the same.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    OK, Layne Norton, Mike Israetel... both of them have stated plant-based diets are perfectly healthy

    Also Brad Schoenfeld has made the statement that vegan diets are fine for athletes.

    You can also just read the position statement by the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics which states the same thing: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/

    "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes."
    As soon as I seen Brad's named mentioned I knew muscle wasn't a priority or a concern
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    How many KO artists are vegan? Mr Olympias?

    That number always seems to stay the same.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    As soon as I seen Brad's named mentioned I knew muscle wasn't a priority or a concern
    So you basically are saying if someone isn't huge, they have no knowledge about nutrition. OK cool.

    You also seem to have just forgotten I mentioned Mike and Layne, who are much bigger than Brad... but none of this matters because they aren't even vegan themselves, so why are we talking about their size.

    You do realize the original claim was that veganism lowers IQ, right? It had nothing to do with being big.

    I dont see what your point is at all... this has no relevance to IQ..
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    So you basically are saying if someone isn't huge, they have no knowledge about nutrition. OK cool.

    You also seem to have just forgotten I mentioned Mike and Layne, who are much bigger than Brad... but none of this matters because they aren't even vegan themselves, so why are we talking about their size.

    You do realize the original claim was that veganism lowers IQ, right? It had nothing to do with being big.

    I dont see what your point is at all... this has no relevance to IQ..
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    If I were a vegan I’d be wasting time googling that trying hard to find an answer but thankfully my levels of tyrosine (from red meat) stay elevated affording me the luxury of knowing the answer.
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    If I were a vegan I’d be wasting time googling that trying hard to find an answer but thankfully my levels of tyrosine (from red meat) stay elevated affording me the luxury of knowing the answer.
    Guess what has tyrosine:

    Firm Tofu = 80% RDI per 100g

    White Beans = 31% RDI per 100g

    Squash or Pumpkin Seeds = 123% RDI per 100g

    Wild Rice = 19% RDI per 100g




    Tyrosine is not an animal-only sourced amino acid
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Guess what has tyrosine:

    Firm Tofu = 80% RDI per 100g

    White Beans = 31% RDI per 100g

    Squash or Pumpkin Seeds = 123% RDI per 100g

    Wild Rice = 19% RDI per 100g




    Tyrosine is not an animal-only sourced amino acid
    those are all great sides and pair well with meats

    minus the tofu, that'll pair great with ED
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    those are all great sides and pair well with meats

    minus the tofu, that'll pair great with ed
    ed?
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    ed?
    Erectile Dysfunction. It's nothing to laugh about. That is not a hard decision to make.
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    Erectile Dysfunction. It's nothing to laugh about. That is not a hard decision to make.
    And also not related to Tofu at all....

    In fact, increased meat consumption is associated with higher risk of ED
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    And also not related to Tofu at all....

    In fact, increased meat consumption is associated with higher risk of ED
    Isn't Sting vegetarian? I read an interview of him where he claims to have 30 minute orgasms.
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    Isn't Sting vegetarian? I read an interview of him where he claims to have 30 minute orgasms.
    Im not sure, but he's definitely the type that wouldn't surprise me.

    Perhaps he feasts on the tears of all the virgins he is yet to deflower
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    Erectile Dysfunction. It's nothing to laugh about. That is not a hard decision to make.
    Yeah, well viagra comes from a plant, so explain that lol
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    And also not related to Tofu at all....

    In fact, increased meat consumption is associated with higher risk of ED
    This guy might disagree with that.

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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Yeah, well viagra comes from a plant, so explain that lol
    where can one find a viagra plant?
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    where can one find a viagra plant?
    Africa

    pausinystalia yohimba
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Africa

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    Why do you know so much about Viagra?
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    Why do you know so much about Viagra?
    I read a book about the Columbian Exchange and the biological consequences of European colonialism and that was mentioned in it.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    I read a book about the Columbian Exchange and the biological consequences of European colonialism and that was mentioned in it.
    I read the slang version of that book called “Boner City”
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